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What is the point of prayer?

falconbrother

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OK, let me start out by saying that I pray pretty much all day every day. My wife and I do a daily devotional and we pray together.

However, I have this friend who is going to seminary. I wont say the denomination. I had a long talk with her the other day and some of the things she said have caused me to really ponder.

I'm begging you. If you decide to reply to this thread please give me some beef, as it were. I really can't use rants based on emotions. Testimony is fantastic. Scripture is awesome.

So, my friend and I had a long talk. I explained to her that my life is in a free fall right now and everything seems to be broken or in the process of breaking. I asked her about prayer.

Why do we pray?

What does prayer do?

Does God intervene?

Does Satan and or, demons actually work to steal, kill and destroy?

You know, that kind of stuff.

She basically said that events in human reality are mostly the results of human decisions and although she wouldn't rule it out, she basically said God chooses to not get involved in human events. She said that almost all of what happens is the result of the decisions we all make, the weather, genetics, etc.. She said that God has chosen to pretty much observe and not get involved. What I heard her saying was that prayer is mostly a meaningless exercise.

If she were reading this she would deny that that was what she meant. But, at the same time she would say that God chooses not to intervene allowing human free will to decide the course of events. Her very general understanding seems to be that God's intervention ended, for the larger part, after Jesus' death, resurrection and assention. She said something to the effect of God's intervening act was salvation through the cross, and that's pretty much it.

As you can imagine it has created a bit of a crisis for me. Why? Good question.

Simply put, I need a God who is active and working in the world. I need a God who is alive and who cares. If that's not true then were no better off, in terms or daily living, than atheist.
 
Very good questions Falconbrother.
Let me first give you my belief on what prayer is for based on my own experiences with Father and studies of the scriptures.
Prayer is the main vehicle or venue where if we will listen, relax and not be in such a hurry to leave, Father aligns or adjusts us to His will and purpose. This explains why so many are confused, unsure or mistaken about God's will, plan and purpose today.

Look at Matt. 26:36-57, Jesus prays until He is align with Father's will. Read the account and ask HolySpirit to reveal the truth to you about prayer.

As far as your friend's beliefs concerning God's interaction with humanity, she has probably based this notion on her own lack of experience and relationship with God.
 
Hi, falconbrother.

I'm sure there are others here that are more qualified to answer your queries about prayer, so I would just like to discuss your friend's belief in Deism, which is an erroneous way to think of the Christian God. Deism is basically a form of Godliness but without the power thereof, and scripture is abundantly clear that God is very interested in His creation, especially His children.

Jeremiah 9:23-24 talks of how God wants us to know Him and that He delight in doing kindness, justice and righteousness on the earth.

Another argument against deism is Jesus' coming to the earth in the flesh and dwelling among us, which doesn't show disinterest in His creation!

There are many verses like in Psalm 50:15 ) "Call upon Me in the day of trouble; I will deliver you and you shall glorify Me". Also :

Psalm 36:5-6
5 Your love, O LORD, reaches to the heavens, your faithfulness to the skies. 6 Your righteousness is like the mighty mountains, your justice like the great deep. O LORD, you preserve both man and beast.

And :

1 Peter 3:12
For the eyes of the Lord are on the righteous
and his ears are attentive to their prayer,
but the face of the Lord is against those who do evil.”

Again, no signs here that God stepped back from His creation and is uninterested in it. All through the bible we can see how God time and again intervened to rescue His people, providing for them in the wilderness giving them manna and water, freeing the Israelites from their bondage to Egypt, opening the wombs of barren women, parting the Red Sea, etc. And right from the beginning we can see God come to Adam and Eve after they sinned to clothe them, while at the same time purposing to save us from our fallen sin nature at the appointed time by sending Jesus to die for their sins. Not to mention how God intervened at the tower of Babel, in Sodom and Gommorah and all of Jesus' healings He performed. God also made many covenants with His people, this is not something a disinterested Deistic God would do.

John 3:16 God loves the world.

Zephaniah 3:17
The LORD your God is in your midst, a mighty one who will save; he will rejoice over you with gladness; he will quiet you by his love; he will exult over you with loud singing.....

Deuteronomy 7:9

Know therefore that the LORD your God, He is God, the faithful God, who keeps His covenant and His lovingkindness to a thousandth generation with those who love Him and keep His commandments;

1 Peter 5:6-7
Humble yourselves, therefore, under the mighty hand of God so that at the proper time he may exalt you, casting all your anxieties on him, because he cares for you.

In Jeremiah 29:11 we see how God has plans for us : For I know the plans I have for you, declares the LORD, plans for welfare and not for evil, to give you a future and a hope.

Isaiah 54:10
10 Though the mountains be shaken and the hills be removed, yet my unfailing love for you will not be shaken nor my covenant of peace be removed," says the LORD, who has compassion on you.

God even cares about oxen! Deuteronomy 25:4 : "You shall not muzzle an ox while it is treading out the grain."

This is just a drop in the bucket to refute your friend's idea that God is not interested in His creation, so I hope she will reconsider her unbiblical stance about God as she endeavors to pursue her seminary studies.
 
Why do we pray?

What does prayer do?

Does God intervene?

Does Satan and or, demons actually work to steal, kill and destroy?

Jesus prayed to the Father all the time. He is our example.

Luk_21:36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.

Luk_22:40 And when he was at the place, he said unto them, Pray that ye enter not into temptation.

Luk_22:46 And said unto them, Why sleep ye? rise and pray, lest ye enter into temptation.

Joh_14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

Joh_16:26 At that day ye shall ask in my name: and I say not unto you, that I will pray the Father for you:

Joh_17:9 I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine.

Joh_17:15 I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.

Joh_17:20 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;

If Jesus prayed, then we are supposed to pray as well. Only God looks at our heart motive, and honors those prayers said through those who are doing His will. Is the prayer said in the mindset of only getting what is wanted as in building our own kingdom, or is there a specific reason for that prayer based on the character and will of God found in the scriptures?

I believe that God works and intervenes in the lives of those who are His. He is over all things, and no, Satan cannot do whatever he wants. Our call and duty is to take a stand against evil by prayer and action when called or needed, and stand up for good by prayer and action when needed. God honors and upholds the prayers of a righteous man. Don't let anyone tell you differently because faith mixed with prayer is what God says to do. Unbelief will send you down a cliff in no time.

God not always is Johnny on the spot when answering though right? Abraham had to wait 20 years before his son was born. David had to wait before the reality of being a king was bestowed upon him after he was annointed as being the King of Israel by Samuel. A Savior was born in a stable how long after that event was promised and prophesied in the OT. God's timeline is sometimes hard to understand, and we are naturally not very patient creatures. We want what we want when we want it, and that usually means NOW!

Anyone who has been on the prayer journey for any length of time will tell you that God's answers usually don't come in the way that is expected, but in hindsight they are always on time, and the way things turn out are always the best way even if it doesn't feel or look good walking through.

Keep with prayer, stay in the word, and in all things acknowledge Him. Even if at times you don't feel that He is doing anything, acknowledge that He is working in your life, and in your family's life. All for the good.
 
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Well, I can tell you that God has recently answered a huge prayer for us.

My wife is facing some big health issues that we are praying about right now. We're trusting God on that too.
 
Due to the Lord not changing the free will He gives us, and the stewardship of the world He promised us (even though we gave it away in a large part to satan)... God does not intervene unless its critical to our development as a race of humans. That being said, we humans were given the promise that the Lord would help us if we needed it sometimes above and beyond what is "needed" for sustainability of our race and our relationship with Him. If we ask Him for something, there are two parts of His responding Will to our prayers. One is if its within His perfect Will (which only GOD knows in its fullness), it definately will be done. The other is if its within His flexible will of His long term goals still being met, and going beyond our basic needs and needed intervention. In a nutshell, God will sometimes do things He woudnt do in His perfect will UNLESS we pray asking for something not "needed" (even if we think its needed-our physical needs are less important than our spiritual needs... this life is but temporary), but He is willing to do for us, because He loves us, and it wont thwart His long term plans for us.

Does that make sense to you all?
 
Jesus said pray to the Father in secret, and He will reward you openly.

So, do we listen to this girl, or Jesus? It is quite obvious that for all her learning, the truth has escaped her. The position she takes is one that allows her to escape the difficult questions such as; Why did the child die? Why suffering? etc. When Paul wrote "Behold the goodness and severity of God..." he was not hiding from the harsh realities of life, yet prayed without ceasing! Did God intervene? Yes! During the shipwreck at Melita, "This night the Lord stood by me..." For Peter when he was in prison by Herod, Prayer was made for him and the Angel of the Lord released his chains taking him to the street. For John, when he was exiled at Patmos, "I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day..."

Jesus promised he walks among the churches, so I will go with Jesus!

Rev 1:10 I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,
Rev 1:11
Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send [it] unto the seven churches which are in Asia; ...

He walks among the churches, we must ask him to walk in our hearts and believe he does.
 
Does that make sense to you all?

God honors prayers of those who are functioning in His Kingdom. Even when mistakes are made, He does work all things for good. Here is an article that seems to fit here...

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Mat 6:31 Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed?
Mat 6:32 (For after all these things do the Gentiles seek:) for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things.
Mat 6:33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.

We are told here to seek first the Kingdom of God and all of our necessities will be added unto us. If we are to seek the Kingdom it would only make sense to understand how to become a citizen of the Kingdom, and to know what responsibilities are required for the functioning of the Kingdom.

First we will look at why it is possible for us to even become citizens of the Kingdom.

Joh 12:31 Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.
Joh 12:32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.
Joh 12:33 This he said, signifying what death he should die.
Joh 12:32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.

After the fall of Adam, the rulership of the earth changed. Satan gained control over the earth and imprisioned the souls of men. His authority would not be usurped until the perfect sacrifice of Jesus on Clavary.

Col 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
Col 2:15 And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.

Jesus redeemed the lost souls that were held under the power of Satan. Jesus trampled underfoot all the powers and principalities of this world and snatched us from the pit of hell. Jesus bought and paid for each soul by His blood, and Satan’s power over us has been rendered useless. The work has been finished and Jesus has won the victory. Even though Satan is still able to harass us and make life difficult, his power over our souls has been rendered useless. Our sentence before a holy God is guilty. Everyone sins and falls short of the Glory of God, and the punishment is death. The only reason we are able to enter into the Kingdom is because Jesus died in our place, and God counted it as paid in full.
Now we will look at what we must do to become a citizen of the Kingdom of God.

Joh 3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.
Joh 3:14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:
Joh 3:15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
Joh 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Because Jesus has redeemed our souls we now have the opportunity to become citizens of the Kingdom of God. Jesus himself tells us we are able to enter into the Kingdom by believing in him. Paul also wrote in Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God

Mar 1:14 Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God,
Mar 1:15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.

Jesus told us here that we are to repent of our sins, and believe the gospel in order for us to enter into the Kingdom of God. To repent of sins means to turn from what we are doing and go a different direction. It is a determination and willingness on our part to cease and desist from doing that which is contrary to his commandments. Once this willingness is seen, He is faithful to create a newness within us to make it possible for us to experience a permanent change.

It is possible to enter into the Kingdom because of the sacrifice of Jesus. We become citizens of the Kingdom when we repent of our sins, and put our faith in God’s only Son that was sent to redeem our souls.
Next we will look at what our responsibilities are once we become citizens of the Kingdom of God.
To show the heart of how the Kingdom of God operates we will look at a piece of a letter that Paul wrote to the Corinthians.

2Co 8:1 Moreover, brethren, we do you to wit of the grace of God bestowed on the churches of Macedonia;
2Co 8:2 How that in a great trial of affliction the abundance of their joy and their deep poverty abounded unto the riches of their liberality.
2Co 8:3 For to their power, I bear record, yea, and beyond their power they were willing of themselves;
2Co 8:4 Praying us with much intreaty that we would receive the gift, and take upon us the fellowship of the ministering to the saints.
2Co 8:5 And this they did, not as we hoped, but first gave their own selves to the Lord, and unto us by the will of God.

Paul is telling the church at Cornith about how the church at Macedonia was functioning. He said that they were abundantly joyous in their deep poverty and affliction. This attitude toward their plight caused them to be generous with what they had.
Because of this ministering to the saints in generosity, and giving themselves to the Lord, God saw fit to give them the power (gifts) to further the Kingdom.

2Co 8:6 Insomuch that we desired Titus, that as he had begun, so he would also finish in you the same grace also.
2Co 8:7 Therefore, as ye abound in every thing, in faith, and utterance, and knowledge, and in all diligence, and in your love to us, see that ye abound in this grace also.
Paul tells them that they excel in keeping the faith, teaching and learning, and are disciplined in all of the things that Titus had taught them. They also were commended for their love toward those that had taught them, but they were falling short in the grace that God had bestowed upon Macedonia. They lacked the power (gifts) to further the Kingdom of God.

2Co 8:8 I speak not by commandment, but by occasion of the forwardness of others, and to prove the sincerity of your love.
2Co 8:9 For ye know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that, though he was rich, yet for your sakes he became poor, that ye through his poverty might be
rich.
2Co 8:10 And herein I give my advice: for this is expedient for you, who have begun before, not only to do, but also to be forward a year ago.
2Co 8:11 Now therefore perform the doing of it; that as there was a readiness to will, so there may be a performance also out of that which ye have.
Seems as if there were reports about the church at Cornith that caused Paul to question the sincerity of their love for one another. He reminds them of the love that Jesus showed by becoming poor for their sakes. He implored them to be doing some kind of work with what they had, and to do it out of a willing heart. It seems as if he was a little disappointed that they were not farther in applying what they had been taught.

2Co 8:12 For if there be first a willing mind, it is accepted according to that a man hath, and not according to that he hath not.
2Co 8:13 For I mean not that other men be eased, and ye burdened:
2Co 8:14 But by an equality, that now at this time your abundance may be a supply for their want, that their abundance also may be a supply for your want:
that there may be equality:
2Co 8:15 As it is written, He that had gathered much had nothing over; and he that had gathered little had no lack.

Now we are at the heart of the workings of the Kingdom. Once we are a citizen of the Kingdom of God, we are expected not only to read the Word of God but to act upon what it says.
It first takes a willing mind to give out of our abundance. Anyone can give grudgingly, but to give willingly is blessed. God requires a cheerful giver in order to bestow the power necessary to further the Kingdom.
Notice here that it is not required to give something that we do not have, but something that we have an overflow of. Paul talks about gathering, and did not condemn the efforts of providing for one's family, or of gathering extra to be a blessing. If in this gathering we do not break the law of God it can be used to relieve the poverty of others. In this way all of the necessities are met.
Jesus summed this concept up in Mat 22 when he was talking about the law of the Kingdom:

Mat 22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
Mat 22:38 This is the first and great commandment.
Mat 22:39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
Mat 22:40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
The Kingdom of God is based on love. Love God first and above all, and then everyone else. When we are operating out of love we are keeping all of the laws.
So we see that when we become citizens of the Kingdom of God, and work within the way it is designed to function by loving God and loving one another as ourselves, that all of our needs will indeed be met.
 
Michelle71;
Thanks for your reply, but my eyes are weak, and more than a short paragraph is harder on my eyes, and rarely do I read longer posts. But I think you misunderstood what I was asking. I was afraid that some might not understand my words, and simply wanted to know if anyone didnt understand what I was saying.
 
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I visited Rome in 2001. In the catacombs I saw a lot of 2000 year old paintings on the walls that were put there by the early Christians. I saw pictures of Christians laying hands on each other baptizing and praying for each other. I heard about the Christian martyrs. The question came to my mind "Why would a Roman Citizen become a Christian?" I mean Pax Romana, the peace of Rome, was a pretty good lifestyle.

What I discovered, I think, was the power of the Holy Spirit, the goodness of the Spirit of God. They didn't have the Bible we know now. Mostly what they had was the testimony of Peter and Paul. Then they came into communion with the Holy Spirit. This to them was so good that they would be fed to the Lions before giving it up. This to me was a testament to the workings of Abba father.

I don't know how it works. It's a mystery to me and Lord knows I have spent many hours and days trying to get a handle on it.

My flesh wants to have some control and feel secure in that. But, that is not the way it works. The only way to then be happy is in relationship with the living Christ, the triune God, Father-Son-Holy Spirit. I am convicted every day that we can find no peace till we are ready to lose everything. Once we can let God have it all we can be free. Otherwise we worry constantly about the future and carry the weight of the past.

Dying to the flesh is a daily effort. I don't know that we ever get there and can lay back and relax.

So, I pray a lot. It feels like all day but, I know it's not. I cherish the prayers that my wife and I do together. I thank God for His presence in my life. Knowing Jesus personally is worth everything because the rest wont bring me peace and spiritual freedom.
 
I wrote the following a month or so back for my blog, and believe it be approprately reprinted here:

It really is truly astonishing, that right at our fingertips, (or tongue-tips to be more precise), is a vehicle for entering into the throne room of the Creator of the universe! A vehicle that is available to us 24 hours a day, every day of the year. If we had such a privilege to be able to engage the ear of the queen of England or the president of either the US or the European Union or perhaps eventhe pope, with as much freedom, we would be the envy of the world, and people from all corners of the globe would be clamouring (lol...I spelt this incorrectly at first spelling it clammering ; the spell check then gave me 3 alternatives...clambering, hammering, clamouring...all quite appropriate) at our door asking for favours. Yet we, even more astonishingly, avail ourselves of this privilege so little!
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Ellen White had the following to say regarding this reluctance on our part to engage in prayer...

Our heavenly Father waits to bestow upon us the fullness of His blessing. It is our privilege to drink largely at the fountain of boundless love. What a wonder it is that we pray so little! God is ready and willing to hear the sincere prayer of the humblest of His children, and yet there is much manifest reluctance on our part to make known our wants to God. What can the angels of heaven think of poor helpless human beings, who are subject to temptation, when God’s heart of infinite love yearns toward them, ready to give them more than they can ask or think, and yet they pray so little and have so little faith? The angels love to bow before God; they love to be near Him. They regard communion with God as their highest joy; and yet the children of earth, who need so much the help that God only can give, seem satisfied to walk without the light of His Spirit, the companionship of His presence.
Prayer is not always easy to understand. Why ask God for something He already knows about? Will God not do anything for us except we ask Him first? Can our prayers really change what God intends to do...can it change His mind?
Whether we understand what prayer is or not, one thing is certain. Without it, as Christians, we are doomed to failure. Prayer is the lifeblood of the soul. I have found throughout my Christian walk, that those times when I needed prayer most, came after periods where I prayed least. I have found that the old adage, that we don't know what we are missing until its gone, is very relevant at times like these.

God, whose name the Lord informed Moses is merciful and gracious, long-suffering, and abundant in goodness and truth, (Exodus 34:5,6) demonstrates His character by being precisely what His name above depicts. At those times when I had neglected to pray as often and as constantly as I ought, and found myself in the inevitable spot of bother as a result, and upon realising my predicament and returning to my knees, am so grateful that I did not hear ... "Ha! Serve yourself right! You neglect Me and you get yourself into trouble every time. How many times do I have to remind you! You are weak, stupid, ignorant, self-willed, arrogant, proud, independently minded, and quite frankly, too much trouble to bother with any more. Sort out your own problems. I'm done with you.!!!" On the contrary, what I hear is "Oh my precious son, welcome back! Now, take of My strength, let My grace and power sustain you, trust Me and all things shall work together for your good." ( Psalm 145:18,19; Luke 15:18-24; Psalm 29:11; Jeremiah 29:11; Isaiah 42:16; 65:24; Romans 8:28.)
Prayer however isn't only a cry for help. It is really the only vehicle we have for sustaining our relationship with God, and like any inter human relationship, to get to know Him we must spend time with Him. If communication is so crucial in our relationships with other people, how can it be less so with God? And if Jesus, the spotless Son of God, Who knew no sin,was without fault, and walked in perfect harmony with the will of His Father throughout His life needed to pray so often as depicted so clearly throughout the gospels, (see Luke 3:21,22; 6:12,13; 9:28,29; Hebrews 5:7; Matt. 14:23.) how much more do we need to?
So the big question remains, and is one I need repeatedly to ask myself. "Why do we pray so little???!!!!!" Frankly, I think the answer, for me anyway, is somewhat closely related to something I wrote above. I am weak, stupid, ignorant, self-willed, arrogant, proud, and all too independently minded. (Now I am allowed to say that, so there is no need for everyone to agree with me ok?) Truly though, it comes down to a matter of choice. How well do we really want to know our Creator? How close do we want to be to Him?
I don't believe however that I am being dishonest when I say that of late, that is the last 3 or 4 months, my prayer life has vastly improved. I have found more consistency, and have found a level of great peace and joy as a result. That's not to say that there weren't times in the past when I experienced such peace, nor felt such joy. But of late it is constant, and I am greatly reluctant to allow this to slip, on the contrary, I am convinced there is no limit to the closeness and intimacy we can have with our Lord.
Bottom line, prayer is a serious business. We are called to pray. Why? Why is it that the Bible tells us:
2Co 10:4 (For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds;)...and
Eph 6:12-18 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness; And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked. And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God: Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints.
What does that all mean? It means there is a war on. I have seen much evil. I have seen demons, and I have seen angels. I have seen a possessed young woman (now deceased) face to face speaking to me vehemently in an ancient language with which I am familiar but in a dialect known only to the priestly class. She was not of that class. She was my best friend's wife. And at that time she had such an expression of hatred for me I have never seen elsewhere since, thank God. She was delivered of that demon, praise God. The point being we are at war.
There is a major war going on...a war entailing our entire planet with ramifications throughout all the universe. A war between Christ and Satan, and we are on the frontline. Not only are we on the frontline, we are also the prize. If we aren't being attacked, maligned, abused, persecuted, talked about, gossiped over, sworn at, cursed, at least some of the time if not all at once constantly, then we are doing something wrong. Satan hates Jesus with a vengeance, with a passion that will never lessen until the day he is destroyed. He however cannot touch Christ personally, but he can certainly touch Him through His followers. That's you and me. If Satan doesn't see you as his primary target, if you are no threat to him, then you need to find out why and do something about it. We are called to fight, called to be warriors for Christ. If your Christian walk is a walk in the park with no hassle, no troubles, no obstacles to climb over, no mountains to remove, no rivers to cross, then your on the wrong path.
There is a major world war on folks, a war that will have repercussions that will last for all eternity, a war that will result in more casualties than all other wars put together, and if you cannot see it in your own life or in the lives of your loved ones, your awol.
Time to fast and pray that God will open your eyes and show you where the enemy is operating. You are called to fight. You will be surprised at how close the battle is. Prayer is your lifeline. It is your sole connection to the source of life and to your sustaining power. It is through prayer that we ensure our remaining connected to the vine.
There is great power in prayer. There are conditions however to experiencing the answers we desire. Ellen White puts it like this:
There are certain conditions upon which we may expect that God will hear and answer our prayers. One of the first of these is that we feel our need of help from Him. He has promised, “I will pour water upon him that is thirsty, and floods upon the dry ground.” Isaiah 44:3. Those who hunger and thirst after righteousness, who long after God, may be sure that they will be filled. The heart must be open to the Spirit’s influence, or God’s blessing cannot be received.
Our great need is itself an argument and pleads most eloquently in our behalf. But the Lord is to be sought unto to do these things for us. He says, “Ask, and it shall be given you.” And “He that spared not His own Son, but delivered Him up for us all, how shall He not with Him also freely give us all things?” Matthew 7:7; Romans 8:32
If we regard iniquity in our hearts, if we cling to any known sin, the Lord will not hear us; but the prayer of the penitent, contrite soul is always accepted. When all known wrongs are righted, we may believe that God will answer our petitions. Our own merit will never commend us to the favor of God; it is the worthiness of Jesus that will save us, His blood that will cleanse us; yet we have a work to do in complying with the conditions of acceptance.
Another element of prevailing prayer is faith. “He that cometh to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of them that diligently seek Him.” Hebrews 11:6. Jesus said to His disciples, “What things soever ye desire, when ye pray, believe that ye receive them, and ye shall have them.” Mark 11:24. Do we take Him at His word? (Steps to Christ p95)
In her book Gospel Workers, she writes;
Family prayer and public prayer have their place; but it is secret communion with God that sustains the soul-life. It was in the mount with God that Moses beheld the pattern of that wonderful building which was to be the abiding-place of His glory. It is in the mount with God—the secret place of communion—that we are to contemplate His glorious ideal for humanity. Thus we shall be enabled so to fashion our character-building that to us may be fulfilled the promise, “I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people.” [2 Corinthians 6:16.]
While engaged in our daily work, we should lift the soul to heaven in prayer. These silent petitions rise like incense before the throne of grace; and the enemy is baffled. The Christian whose heart is thus stayed upon God cannot be overcome. No evil arts can destroy his peace. All the promises of God’s word, all the power of divine grace, all the resources of Jehovah, are pledged to secure his deliverance. It was thus that Enoch walked with God. And God was with him, a present help in every time of need.
Christ’s ministers must watch unto prayer. They may come with boldness to the throne of grace, lifting up holy hands without wrath or doubting. In faith they may supplicate the Father in heaven for wisdom and grace, that they may know how to work, how to deal with minds.
Prayer is the breath of the soul. It is the secret of spiritual power. No other means of grace can be substituted, and the health of the soul be preserved. Prayer brings the heart into immediate contact with the Well-spring of life, and strengthens the sinew and muscle of the religious experience. Neglect the exercise of prayer, or engage in prayer spasmodically, now and then, as seems convenient, and you lose your hold on God. The spiritual faculties lose their vitality, the religious experience lacks health and vigor.
In summary, when all is said and done, there remains much we do not grasp about prayer. But one thing is certain, and I say this from personal experience. Those who do pray know for sure that prayer changes your life, and changes it for the better.
 
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"Ye lust, and havenot: ye kill, and desire to have, and cannot obtain: ye fight and war, yet yehave not, because ye ask not.

Ye ask, and receive not, because ye ask amiss, that ye may consume itupon your lusts.: James 4:2-3

God will change His plan simplybecause we want it changed. God has unlimited power to change things that arein accord with His will. If He has already spoken a thing He is bound by His own Word. He also has given each of us the power to choose to do things His wayor not. He will not force a person to change his choice even though it isoffensive to God.

For example, if you have a loved one that you want saved, praying for them maycause God to intercede and soften the person's heart or open the person's heartor send a witness to the person so that the person can hear what 'thus saiththe Lord', but the person must still make his own decisions as to whether he will serve God or not.

Even Jesus, who knew all of the right things to say at all times, was unable tosave every person to whom He spoke. Most of those who heard His words took noaction to prevent His crucifixion. Jesus, Himself, prayed to His Father thatHe, Jesus, not be required to suffer and die. He went along with His Father'swill. We, even if we have faith, are not greater alone than Jesus.

Another example is praying for the sick.

"And as it is appointed unto men once to die..." Heb 9:27

"To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under theheaven:

A time to be born, and a time to die;..." Ecc 3:1-2

When it is the time that God has appointed for someone to die, they will die.Sometimes, God has changed the apparently prescribed order to make a point, orto teach a lesson, or to help men understand, but when we are praying for aperson not to die, such as wife, child, parent or other loved one, it must bein accord with God's will for the person to live on in this flesh and not die.

Examples of where the apparently prescribed order of death were changed byGod's intervention are are seen with King Hezekiah [I Kings 20:1-11], Elijah [IKings 17:17-24], Elisha [II Kings 4:27-37], and Jesus [John 11:1-44].

But... do not expect such things from God, unless you know that it is God'swill. When Jesus prayed for healing or touched a sick person they were alwayswere healed, but... Jesus always knew when it was God's will for healing or asin the case of the woman, who touched the hem of His garment, her faith was verygreat, but within God's will. Jesus did not pray for a person to be healed whenit was not the Father's will.

People limited what Jesus was able to do at that time and people limit what God is able to do now.

"Yea, they turned back and tempted God, and limited the Holy One of Israel." Psalm 78:41

"And they were offended in him. But Jesus said unto them, A prophet is notwithout honour, save in his own country, and in his own house.

And he did not many mighty works there because of their unbelief." Matt13:57-58
 
Very good questions Falconbrother.
Prayer is the main vehicle or venue where if we will listen, relax and not be in such a hurry to leave, Father aligns or adjusts us to His will and purpose.

That is such a beautiful quote!! It speaks to Philippians 2:13 and Psalm 37:4, two of my favorite verses.

As for the main question, here is how I think of prayer:

God can do whatever he wants, whenever he wants. He is just as active and present in our lives as he was 2000 years ago. However, the reason we might not believe this is because we don't have angels that visit us or stumble across burning bushes. And unfortunately Christ no longer walks among us.... but that doesn't mean God is gone, because now, Christ dwells inus. Thus, prayer is the means by which God uses to accomplish his will.

God will do what God will do with or without us; but wouldn't you rather be a part of this great, wonderful, and amazing plan of His? Don't you want to "be in the game"? Well, prayer is your chance! He's saying to you, "Come, be a part of this amazing work I am doing here... in your life, in your heart, in the hearts and lives of those around you... all across the world. Come, be a part of this and work with me. I want to use you, I want to work out these great things through you." Give God the opportunity to show you who He is; give Him the opportunity to "flex His muscles" before you. Be a part of it... and the way you do that is through prayer.
 
"Ye lust, and havenot: ye kill, and desire to have, and cannot obtain: ye fight and war, yet yehave not, because ye ask not.

Ye ask, and receive not, because ye ask amiss, that ye may consume itupon your lusts.: James 4:2-3

God will change His plan simplybecause we want it changed. God has unlimited power to change things that arein accord with His will. If He has already spoken a thing He is bound by His own Word. He also has given each of us the power to choose to do things His wayor not. He will not force a person to change his choice even though it isoffensive to God.

For example, if you have a loved one that you want saved, praying for them maycause God to intercede and soften the person's heart or open the person's heartor send a witness to the person so that the person can hear what 'thus saiththe Lord', but the person must still make his own decisions as to whether he will serve God or not.

Even Jesus, who knew all of the right things to say at all times, was unable tosave every person to whom He spoke. Most of those who heard His words took noaction to prevent His crucifixion. Jesus, Himself, prayed to His Father thatHe, Jesus, not be required to suffer and die. He went along with His Father'swill. We, even if we have faith, are not greater alone than Jesus.

Another example is praying for the sick.

"And as it is appointed unto men once to die..." Heb 9:27

"To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under theheaven:

A time to be born, and a time to die;..." Ecc 3:1-2

When it is the time that God has appointed for someone to die, they will die.Sometimes, God has changed the apparently prescribed order to make a point, orto teach a lesson, or to help men understand, but when we are praying for aperson not to die, such as wife, child, parent or other loved one, it must bein accord with God's will for the person to live on in this flesh and not die.

Examples of where the apparently prescribed order of death were changed byGod's intervention are are seen with King Hezekiah [I Kings 20:1-11], Elijah [IKings 17:17-24], Elisha [II Kings 4:27-37], and Jesus [John 11:1-44].

But... do not expect such things from God, unless you know that it is God'swill. When Jesus prayed for healing or touched a sick person they were alwayswere healed, but... Jesus always knew when it was God's will for healing or asin the case of the woman, who touched the hem of His garment, her faith was verygreat, but within God's will. Jesus did not pray for a person to be healed whenit was not the Father's will.

People limited what Jesus was able to do at that time and people limit what God is able to do now.

"Yea, they turned back and tempted God, and limited the Holy One of Israel." Psalm 78:41

"And they were offended in him. But Jesus said unto them, A prophet is notwithout honour, save in his own country, and in his own house.

And he did not many mighty works there because of their unbelief." Matt13:57-58

Just wanted to let you know, I see that you have posted a few times, but when I try to read them, I have some trouble because the font is very tiny and bright.
 
Our whole universe is controlled by God.

God is in constant interaction with His creation.

We exist within Jesus Christ!!!

God holds us and the universe together absolutely.

John 5

17 But Jesus answered them, “My Father is working until now, and I Myself am working.”

18 For this reason therefore the Jews were seeking all the more to kill Him, because He

not only was breaking the Sabbath, but also was calling God His own Father, making

Himself equal with God.

God never ceases His work within creation!!

It is God's will that you believe in Jesus Christ!

On the subject of prayer;

1 Thessalonians 5

16 Rejoice always; 17 pray without ceasing; 18 in everything give thanks; for this is

God’s will for you in Christ Jesus. 19 Do not quench the Spirit; 20 do not despise

prophetic utterances. 21 But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is

good; 22 abstain from every form of evil.

23 Now may the God of peace Himself sanctify you entirely; and may your spirit and soul
and body be preserved complete, without blame at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

24 Faithful is He who calls you, and He also will bring it to pass.

Prayer is established in the Christian via the Holy Spirit.

Trust Jesus completely and He will complete His work in you.

Prayer is the constant interaction between the creation and
God himself. It is the joyful, thankfull, spirit filled relationship
between God and us. God knows our thoughts and our hearts
even before we pray. Our Holy Spirit generates the prayer,
that is why you must submit to Jesus completely.

God hears and acts on all prayers!

James 5:16
Therefore, confess your sins to one another, and pray for one another
so that you may be healed. The effective prayer of a righteous man can accomplish much.

Philippians 3:9

and may be found in Him, not having a righteousness of my own derived from the Law,
but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which comes from God on the basis of faith,
 
Just wanted to let you know, I see that you have posted a few times, but when I try to read them, I have some trouble because the font is very tiny and bright.

The forum doesn't provide for large font. I will stick to black as perhaps that will help. Sorry for the trouble. I don't read many posts myself because the words are simply too small for these old eyes.
 
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