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What is at the core of Satan's reasoning?

TKICBS

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This thread is very different. As usual some will agree and some will disagree. I will attempt to give as much good reason as I am able and the rest is in the Lord's hands.
I think the best way is to give my testimony. This is how this understanding developed since 1988.
I was born in a small town in Southern Ontario. We were very poor. My father had disabilities that did not allow him to fight for his country or hold any kind of job but he always provided food on the table. And he knew how babies were made. I had 7 brothers. No sisters! But lots of cousins who were girls.
My parents were not very religious, but they believed we needed church so we went to a baptist church for several years. Then when I was about 8 years old my parents quit church. But they would have a bus pick us kids up and take us to a brethren Gospel Hall. It was different. They taught a lot of history but something was missing.
When I was 10 we moved 5 hours north to black-fly country. If you have ever been in Northern Ontario you will know what I mean.
My dad had an old friend who had moved there and enticed him to move. He was a Jehovah's Witness. Dad bought a farm and tried growing potatoes for several years. Then he bought some equipment and started making mops in his little shop. He was a good provider.
When I was about 13 a pedophile moved into the area and I became one of his victims.
Because of my father's disabilities he never allowed me to chop wood or do any manual labour. Our relationship was not great though I loved him I didn't think he loved me.
The pedophile was very good at finding boys who had poor relationships with their fathers. He taught me to drive. He taught me to use a chainsaw and drive a snow machine. He became the father I always wanted. But at a price.
I thank God none of his ways took hold of me. I witnessed him forcing other boys, but he never made me do what they did. I know now I was protected.
My dad's friend would come around every Friday and teach us JW beliefs. But there was something missing. I know now it was the Holy Ghost, but when I was 14 it was just confusing.
I broke away from the pedophile when I was 15 and ran away from home. I ended up back with him for a couple more years off and on. I ha no place to go.
I met my first wife when I was 18 and married at 19. I got steady work and we raised 3 beautiful children.
But I never believed in Jesus after I was about 14. I thought he was a gifted person, but that was it. I came to the conclusion that no-one could know if God existed or not. So I tried to be a good person and a good provider and we did okay by the worlds standards. My wife was an RNA and I worked in a mine for 9 years.
We bought a house and fixed it up a little and tried to sell it for a profit. By this time I was working at a truck stop.
The owner had a rival who owned property beside my house. This man offered me 3 thousand more than I was asking for the property. My boss convinced me that this guy would pay twice the value for the house. So I went to my lawyer and told him to get me out of the deal. He did but never talked to me after that.
Then the neighbour was really upset and after having words with me almost ran me over.
He never offered any more for the house. So I quit that job and went driving truck across Canada. I had a partner who was a born again Christian, and I was broken. I had resigned myself to a life of working hard to make a living.
The drivers name was Allen.
We started out on a trip to Winnipeg one morning and we were both wide awake. He was driving and I planned to jump in the bunk in a couple hours to rest up for my turn. I was bored so I asked him, "What's your favourite topic, politics or religion?"
Well that was the right question. He began to explain how the prophecies in the bible were all coming true in our time. (This was in 1988) He had me read out of his bible and guided me through the scriptures pointing out Rev 17 and relating it to the Vatican. He pointed out scriptures that said God would bring the Jews back to Israel before Jesus returns. He pointed out how Islam was fulfilling so many prophecies and how many hated the Jews just as scripture said they would in the last days before Jesus returns.
He gave me so much scripture relating to our world today like never before in history that within 4 hours I was convinced that the bible was true and Jesus is coming back as Lord and King of all of the Earth. There was absolutely no way that all of this could be happening unless the bible is the word of God and Jesus is Lord.
I was in the bunk crying and praying for forgiveness when I was born again. God began to talk to me. He explained scripture constantly. One time e said something and I realized he was right and flipped open the bible and there is was on the exact page glaring at me. I wish I could remember what it was now but....
I received forgiveness and began the most beautiful time of my life. Walking and talking with God.
But I was torn apart at the same time, because I had not brought my children up in the Lord and the two boys were young teenagers by now and my daughter was already 9.
I spent a lot of time literally crying for my children and my wife. She could not understand what I was going through. She was trained to believe born again Christians needed their brains washed, reprogrammed!
One day when I was driving alone at work I was thinking about the 2 witnesses of Rev 11 and I realized that these were two individuals who were alive today and who would have to die for their faith to help bring the word to pass. So crying I offered myself to the Lord as a witness.
I know many will have a hard time with that, but I am just telling you the way it was with me.
One thing I knew right from the start was that there is no true denomination. I had been raised in 3 very different Christian churches and this proved to me that none had it right. Some were closer than others but all had their errors in doctrine. Some denominations are literally Anti-Christ. Simply teaching contrary to bible.
So my search was for truth. I read the bible in about a month, I guess. Then I started searching it and prying for understanding. I spent many hours fasting and crying out. But there were some scriptures that I knew were important to understand that just made no sense. Most teachers I heard or read taught that they were symbolic of this or that but they all had different ideas. So I couldn't accept the teachings.
One day I was browsing through a used book store and came across a book written by a Dr. Bernard called, "The Hollow Earth"
This book claimed that the earth was indeed hollow just as in the movie, "Journey To The Centre of The Earth", based on the book written by Jules Vernes.
The concept has an inner crust and an outer crust with lava at about 200 miles deep and oil an natural gas deposits scattered between the lava layer and the two surfaces. The weight of the outer crust pushes down and the weight of the inner crust pushes toward the outer crust putting pressure on the liquids between the crusts.
A good video to watch that I believe proves the earth is hollow is, The Expanding Earth" on YouTube. If the earth is over twice its original size then there has to be a growth of some sort inside, we have no evidence of that, or it has a huge cavity inside. There is no other explanation.
So anyway, I read the book by Dr. Bernard and thought it interesting but soon lost the book. About 6 weeks later I was still praying for wisdom and understanding and while browsing the same book store I stumbled onto a book called, "The works of Plato".
is book simply annualized words like, "Wisdom". It was a real head banger but in about the middle of this book it claimed the earth was hollow and that the inner atmosphere was full of spirits. I found this weird and after finishing the book I lost track of it as well.
Then about 6 weeks later I was watching tv with the kids when an ad came on for a set of books you could buy at the local grocery store. The book they used for the ad was all about ancient myths and the picture on the cover was that of a hollow earth.
I sat bolt upright and said, "Lord are you trying to tell me something?"
I thought, "If this is true then it must be in the bible". So I began studying with the idea that the earth is hollow. The bible opened up like a flower. Many of the scriptures that were said to be symbolic were actually literal. I realized that during flood of Noah's time the bowels of the great deep burst open under pressure. Job 38 says the water issued forth as water from a mother's womb. So where did it come from. There was enough water to flood the earth to the top of mount Everest. Try to imagine just how much water we are looking at. And where did it go?
Then there is Rev 9. The star has the key and opens the bottomless pit and creatures like locust come out with the face of a man and the hair of a woman and teeth like lions teeth. Did you ever watch the movie, "Beauty and The Beast"?
If the earth is hollow then this makes perfect sense.
Then there is their king. His name is Abaddon in the Greek and Appolyon in the Hebrew, which means destroyer. Rev 17 tells us he is one of 7 kings; five have fallen (in 87 AD) one is, and one is yet to come He will continue a short time and the earth is of the seven. (most translations say, "he is one of the seven") and goes into perdition.
It then says, "He was, is not, and yet is, and will ascend from the pit and go into perdition"
These scriptures are hard to understand until you understand the hollow earth. There were 7 kings back in 87 AD. 5 of these kings had already died, but one still reigned. One king was yet to come and the eighth is one of these 7 kings. I assume that the one who is yet to come is either the little horn of Daniel 8 or the prince who makes the covenant, or the wicked one of Thessalonians. If the earth is hollow then the eighth king is not the 7th, he is one of the first 6. So what kings were there in John's time who were 6. One still reigned and 5 had died.
I thought this must be Caesars but I could not make it fit with the numbers. I gave up and slouched over the table with my head in my arms. Then the name Herod came to mind. So I sat up and started my search of Herods. I went to the same old used book store and found an old set of Encyclopedia Britannica. It gave the dates for the death of every Herod except one. There were only six. Herod the Great, Herod Archelaus, Herod Agrippa 1, Herod Agrippa 2, Herod Phillipi and Herod Antipas. Herod Agrippa 2 still held power in 87 AD. But there was no record for the death of Herod Antipas, (Coincidentally the one who had Jesus put on the cross)
Herod Antipas, according to Josephus, went to Caesar and asked him to make him King of Judea. Caesar thought him to ambitious and a threat so he banished him and Phillipi's wife to an island in the Mediterranean. He later went from this Island into the mainland and into the mountains and was never heard of again.
So how could Herod be the King who ascends from the pit after 2000 years.
Brace yourself!
Remember before the flood of Noah's time man lived for up to 969 years. Then at the time of the flood their lifespan was diminished to 120 years.
Let's look for a minute at what caused the flood in the natural. To do this we must go back to Geneses 1 and understand how God created the earth.
In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth and the earth was without form and void and darkness was on the face of the deep and God's spirit brooded over the face of the waters and God said, "Light be!"
Notice here please that before light there was water. Based on the fact that every thing was made of this water it must have been one huge ocean. Larger than our whole solar system.
So darkness was on the face of the deep when God said, "Light be!" I believe God released energy at the very core of this huge ocean. So what happens when water is consumed by energy? It boils! Boiling is the result of the oxygen and the hydrogen separating as water is H2O. So 2/3 of these bubbles were filled with Hydrogen and 1/3 were filled with oxygen.
I believe all of the minerals that exist today were in the water at the beginning of creation.
So what would happen to the minerals in the water when it boiled?
When I was a wee lad we lived near a limestone quarry. Every once in a while my parents would have to chip the lime from the pots as it would cake there when boiling the water that had lime in it. The same happens wen there is a lot of iron in your water. It will build up in your pipes until it plugs your pipes.
However, when God began creation there was no mas to attract the minerals so I believe they separated from the water but were trapped at the core of each bubble in a gas state and cooled into a molten state to cool and finally form a crust becoming a planet. However, before cooling the heat from these molten bals rose up and evaporated even more water from around each bubble causing rain to fall and finally cool the surface while at the same time flooding the surface so that the surface could not be seen.
So the bubbles had an atmosphere in them fulfilling day 2 of creation and the planets were hidden under water so there was water above the sky and water below the sky. Then God said, "Let the dry land appear"
Now it gets interesting, because we are about to see how the earth was created hollow.
So we had a gas ball that cooled to form a liquid ball that was flooded to form a crust over the surface of the ball beneath the water. But what took place inside this ball?
It should be obvious that it continued to cool. Life was created on the outside surface as Geneses explains. But inside a separation continued. As they cooled the minerals began to make layers just as mud does in a jar of muddy water when it settles. As the gases cooled they contracted and a vacuum began to take place in the inside beneath the our surface. As the gases cooled and turned to liquid they were drawn in 2 directions. What was near the core was drawn to the core and what was near the crust was drawn to the crust and flowed as liquid minerals appearing as lava does today.
It is the vacuum that we must understand at this point. The more the inside cooled the stronger the vacuum became until finally the crust outside could not hold and it imploded at the weakest points in the crust. The Polar areas!
This implosion pulled the ocean from our surface into the inner cavity with such force that the cooler atmosphere outside froze over the poles and the gaping holes were plugged with ice.
Hence, the ice age!
Just because the schools teach truths does not always mean they have truth!
So if you have not left me this far, what would come next?
Well when the ocean of water was sucked inside it flowed over the molten inner surface cooling it and forming a crust in the inner surface. However, the core was untouched as it was for above and was not effected by the flood inside.
Now we have a hollow earth, but we are not done creating yet. The inner surface is now under water and the star shining from the core starts to produce life forms of all types, just as in our world out here the sun did under the flood. before land appeared.
O yes, did you notice that when the flood was sucked inside that the land appeared outside right in tune with creation process in Geneses.
Next, Noah's flood!
The earth was about 2/3s of its present size so far. The star at the core was much closer to the inner surface than it is today. This resulted in evaporation of the ocean inside that slowly began to build up a very humid pressure in the inner atmosphere. This humidity began to melt the ice that had formed in the hole at the poles. It took some 1500 years but right on cue God told Noah to build the ark.
You must understand that all things work together according to the will of God. He new when man would be at his most wicked time and he knew exactly when the bowels of the great deep would burst open. It's like he knows everything. He seems to b in all through all and in us all, don't you think?
So when the time was right the floods came and the earths crust shattered and formed the continental drift. The floods washed all of the sand and silt off the mountains and buried dinosaurs in the deserts. The continents broke up and the mountains rolled at the sound of his voice. Layers of minerals were separated and shifted to look as confused as the people gazing on them.
And so man thought He is finished. But God is not finished creating yet.
He created the destroyer to fan the coals. But even the destroyer has an end of days.
So if you are able to grasp this understanding then know this. The earth has been created as an egg. If you look at our solar system you will see that there are 10 planets, arguably. The sun is at the core and the 4 planets with the earth in its place. But between Mars and Jupiter there is no planet. Where one ought to be there is the Asteroid Belt. This is simply made up of rocks that remain in the orbit where a planet once was. This planet was hollow and did blow up releasing the comet that was once at its core as a star. It is the same with Kuiper Belt. You see, this is how a comet is created and how an asteroid belt is created. The earth is also on a path to explode. This is the destroyers purpose. However, Jesus has other plans.
But lets just say for now that Satan has his way and will destroy the earth. How does he accomplish this?
With the understanding of a hollow planet look at what is beneath the surface. At some distance there is a layer of lava flowing. Above this there are huge deposits of natural gas and crude oil. If you release the lava into the natural gas and oil this planet will explode. We will be no more than an asteroid belt and Satan, the god of this age, will have succeeded in his purpose since the foundation of the earth. He knows no other path. He was created for this purpose and will accomplish this in his mind until he has completed the task. There seams to be no way to stop him It is his spirit who is in the minds of the disobedient. Some serve him outright but most serve him unwittingly.
So what is Jesus plan?
It is very simple really. There is a time set for everything under the sun. There is a time for this understanding to be known. There is a time for the planet to kaboom. However, for the kaboom to take place the continents must be in a perfect configuration. God the Father knows exactly when that will occur. So He has given Jesus testimony to save the planet before the planet is set to explode.
If you hit the planet with an asteroid just so, it will cause the chain reaction to change paths and save the planet. Do not fear. God knows exactly what he is doing.
So Let's look at the plan. In Isaiah 13:9-13 we are told that he will move the earth out of its place on the day of the Lord. So when is the Day of The Lord? It is the day that the asteroid hits. So now we know how he will move the earth. But what will happen inside the earth if you move the planet? Will the star at the core not fall inside as there is nothing holding it in place but the equal forces on all sides? So if it crashes inside then it will light the inside into an inferno, yes?
Now read Rev 8 and 9. But first look at Rev 4. The angels are weeping because no-one is found worthy to open the seals on the book. What is so important about this book? It is the key to saving the earth from the great kaboom.
But the Lamb is found worthy and he opens the seals. Notice that the judgment against the churches has already transpired. Those who were obedient left in chapter 3. A little side note.
What the book reveals is the asteroid. In the sixth seal we see a meteor shower that kills thousands. Then the trumpets begin to sound. A star falls and possibly 3. That remains to be seen. But One lands in the sea and destroys 1/3 of the ships and creatures in the sea. Why is this important? Because this asteroid has to be big enough to move the planet but not destroy it. By landing in the sea he waters will cushion the blow while still having the momentum to move the planet out of its present orbit. Notice in verse 12 that the sun moon and stars are struck so that, or causing, the days are shortened by a third and also the nights. We have a 24 hour day but when all is said and done we will have an 18 hour day. The earth will be spinning faster by 1/3.
Why is this significant?
Because the star in chapter 9 has the key and opens the bottomless pit. If you spin the earth faster by 1/3 the water at the poles will be drawn away by centrifugal force opening the holes that are presently hidden beneath the ocean in these regions.
There have been claims of people travelling through these holes and seeing the hollow earth and giants and aliens. Admiral Byrd was supposed to have flown into both holes, north and south.
I personally think these holes are plugged with ocean water but at low tide in the summer months when planets are in a certain position these holes may open for a time.
I thin this because the bible says the star opens the pit so it must be closed, but I can't disregard Byrd's mission, so this seems to be the only possibility to satisfy all arguments.
So in chapter 9 of Rev we are told he pit opens and smoke like the smoke of a great furnace comes out first and blocks out the sun. This would be true if the earth is hollow and the star inside turns the inner world into a fiery furnace.
So if you were a king inside and the star was destroyed that gave life to your world and a hole opened to outside where you know there is life, what would you do?
Now notice that they are only out here for 5 months and only torture those who receive the mark of the beast. So this is not the beast. Is he the wicked one who sits in the temple? Possibly! Is he the Anti-Chris? Possibly! He certainly is an anti-christ.
So remember when I said he was, is not and yet is and will ascend out of the pit and go into perdition. Is he possibly Herod Antipas? Did John not say Anti Christ was already at work? But how could Antipas be alive 2000 years after the crucifixion?
Here is what I think the Lord has shown me. Man lived to almost 1000 years before the flood. Then something happened so man could not live so long. If you look at scripture you will see that they started dying at 500, 400, 300 until it reached about 120 max.
I believe that as the earth went through the throws of expanding in size, that the atmosphere inside and outside had to find a balance to where it is today. Because the earth is 1/3 larger than before the flood the ozone was stretched out across a much larger area. As well the humid atmosphere pushed the ozone higher as this balance was reached. The ozone is what protects us from the ultraviolet rays of the sun. Is it possible that there are no ultraviolet rays inside the hollow earth? Then man could live for 1000, 2000 or maybe more based on science.
This allows for Antipas to fulfill scripture as the wicked one and as the anti-Christ and remember, he wanted to be made King of Judea so will he come back to Jerusalem and try to take his place in the temple to prove to himself that he is God?
This has been my journey this far. It has taken 33 years to date. Let us see what is next.
God bless you all!
 
The Core of Satan's reasoning is that each person should become lord of their own lives and be like a god to themselves (Genesis 3:5). Then all would disreagrd the words of the Lord and do what is right in their own eyes (decide good and evil for their self). In the fall he succeeded.
 
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