What does this passage mean?

[rhern53]

Roman 15: 8 Now I say that Jesus Christ was a minister of the circumcision for the truth of God, to confirm the promises made unto the fathers:

 

[BlessedBeyondBelief]

I'll take a shot:

I believe when it mentions circumcision here, its talking in a spiritual sense, or circumcision of the heart (
Deuteronomy 30:6 , Romans 2:29 ). Jesus is a minister of transformation/ circumcision of the heart. He is also come to preach about salvation which is the truth of God. He is also the fulfillment of Messianic prophecy, which was promised to the forefathers ( Deuteronomy 18:15–19 )

 

[Hekuran]

Keep it simple. 'Circumcision' is a metaphor for Jews.

Roman 15: 8 Now I say that Jesus Christ was a minister to the Jews for the truth of God, to confirm the promises made unto the fathers:

 

[BlessedBeyondBelief]

Keep it simple. 'Circumcision' is a metaphor for Jews.

Roman 15: 8 Now I say that Jesus Christ was a minister to the Jews for the truth of God, to confirm the promises made unto the fathers:

sounds good. i agree with this

 

[CareGiver]

sounds good. i agree with this

Paul was given the gospel for the "Gentiles," who were called the "Uncircumcision" (uncircumcised) by the "Circumcision" (circumcised) who were those who lived by the Mosaic Law, often referred to as "Jews." They were referred to as the "Circumcision" because they practiced circumcision of their male babies on the eight day after birth, according to the Mosaic Law. We refrain from calling the "Circumcision" Jews, because Paul says a Jew is someone whose heart has been circumcised (of the "flesh", sin) by the Spirit, which was not the case for everyone under the authority of the Mosaic Law.

But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter; (Galatians 2:7)

Therefore remember that you, once Gentiles in the flesh—who are called Uncircumcision by what is called the Circumcision made in the flesh by hands—(Ephesians 2:11)

For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God (Romans 2:28-29).
From this perspective, not everyone who is called a "Jew" is a "Jew." Perhaps God sees Christians that have been born of God and live in the Spirit as "Jews," His "Jewels" in the New Jerusalem.

This is an understanding, but I do not know for sure.
Take care, and may GOD bless,..........

 

[rhern53]

Paul was given the gospel for the "Gentiles," who were called the "Uncircumcision" (uncircumcised) by the "Circumcision" (circumcised) who were those who lived by the Mosaic Law, often referred to as "Jews." They were referred to as the "Circumcision" because they practiced circumcision of their male babies on the eight day after birth, according to the Mosaic Law. We refrain from calling the "Circumcision" Jews, because Paul says a Jew is someone whose heart has been circumcised (of the "flesh", sin) by the Spirit, which was not the case for everyone under the authority of the Mosaic Law.

But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter; (Galatians 2:7)

Therefore remember that you, once Gentiles in the flesh—who are called Uncircumcision by what is called the Circumcision made in the flesh by hands—(Ephesians 2:11)

For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God (Romans 2:28-29).
From this perspective, not everyone who is called a "Jew" is a "Jew." Perhaps God sees Christians that have been born of God and live in the Spirit as "Jews," His "Jewels" in the New Jerusalem.

This is an understanding, but I do not know for sure.
Take care, and may GOD bless,..........

the separation between Jews and Christians was Jews continued to follow the Law.

Acts 21:20 King James Version (KJV)
20 And when they heard it, they glorified the Lord, and said unto him, Thou seest, brother, how many thousands of Jews there are which believe; and they are all zealous of the law:


If you follow the Law there is no longer grace. a Jew can be a Christian they have to drop the Law. you cannot mix Law and Grace

 

[Born Again 2004]

Physical Circumscion was a sign of Christianity, Jews were not circumcised. After the cross, doesn't mean as much. Also refers to symbolic Circumscion of the heart...a Heart Christian, not a Head Christian.
Asda

 

[Born Again 2004]

NOT True. Mosaic law, though directed by God, required Jewish males to be circumcised after birth to signify them as being a believer in the one true God. Jesus is God and this is complete a promise made to the Fathers. After Jesus's resurrection their is no need of a physical Circumscion.

 

[Reba1]

A segment of Matthew Henry's commentary


1. He received the Jews, Rom_15:8. Let not any think hardly or scornfully therefore of those that were originally Jews, and still, through weakness, retain some savour of their old Judaism; for, (1.) Jesus Christ was a minister of the circumcision. That he was a minister, diakonos - a servant, bespeaks his great and exemplary condescension, and puts an honour upon the ministry: but that he was a minister of the circumcision, was himself circumcised and made under the law, and did in his own person preach the gospel to the Jews, who were of the circumcision - this makes the nation of the Jews more considerable than otherwise they appear to be. Christ conversed with the Jews, blessed them, looked upon himself as primarily sent to the lost sheep of the house of Israel, laid hold of the seed of Abraham (Heb_2:16, margin), and by them, as it were, caught at the whole body of mankind. Christ's personal ministry was appropriated to them, though the apostles had their commission enlarged. (2.) He was so for the truth of God. That which he preached to them was the truth; for he came into the world to bear witness to the truth, Joh_18:37. And he is himself the truth, Joh_14:6. Or, for the truth of God, that is, to make good the promises given to the patriarchs concerning the special mercy God had in store for their seed. It was not for the merit of the Jews, but for the truth of God, that they were thus distinguished - that God might approve himself true to this word which he had spoken. - To confirm the promises made unto the fathers. The best confirmation of promises is the performance of them. It was promised that in the seed of Abraham all the nations of the earth should be blessed, that Shiloh should come from between the feet of Judah, that out of Israel should he proceed that should have the dominion, that out of Zion should go forth the law, and many the like. There were many intermediate providences which seemed to weaken those promises, providences which threatened the fatal decay of that people; but when Messiah the Prince appeared in the fulness of time, as a minister of the circumcision, all these promises were confirmed, and the truth of them was made to appear; for in Christ all the promises of God, both those of the Old Testament and those of the New, are Yea, and in him Amen. Understanding by the promises made to the fathers the whole covenant of grace, darkly administered under the Old Testament, and brought to a clearer light now under the gospel, it was Christ's great errand to confirm that covenant, Dan_9:27. He confirmed it by shedding the blood of the covenant.

 

[B-A-C]

Roman 15: 8 Now I say that Jesus Christ was a minister of the circumcision for the truth of God, to confirm the promises made unto the fathers:

the circumcized are Jews, the uncircumcized are Gentiles.