What does the Bible say about purgatory?

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Short answer: The Bible says nothing about purgatory. But since many people believe in purgatory, we should examine the doctrine in light of Scripture.

According to the Catholic Encyclopedia, purgatory is “a place or condition of temporal punishment for those who, departing this life in God’s grace, are not entirely free from venial faults, or have not fully paid the satisfaction due to their transgressions.” In other words, in Catholic theology purgatory is the place where a Christian’s soul goes after death to be cleansed of the sins that had not been fully paid for during life. Is the doctrine of purgatory in agreement with the Bible? Absolutely not!

An idea foundational to the doctrine of purgatory is that some of a believer’s sin has not yet been paid for. But Scripture teaches that Jesus died to pay the penalty for all our sins (Colossians 2:13). The Suffering Servant of Isaiah 53:5 took our place: “But he was pierced for our transgressions, he was crushed for our iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace was on him, and by his wounds we are healed.” Jesus suffered for our sins so that we could be delivered from suffering. To say that we must also suffer for our sins is to say that Jesus’ suffering was insufficient in some way. To say that we ourselves must atone for our sins is to deny the adequacy of the atoning sacrifice of Jesus (1 John 2:2). The idea that those who are saved by grace through faith have to pay for their sins after death is contrary to everything the Bible says about salvation.

The primary scriptural passage Catholics point to for evidence of purgatory is 1 Corinthians 3. Verses 10–15 picture the Christian life as a building project, with the caution that “each one should build with care” (1 Corinthians 3:10). Our work will be tested and “will be shown for what it is, because the Day will bring it to light. It will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test the quality of each person’s work” (verse 13). At the judgment seat of Christ, we must give an account of what we’ve done for Christ. First Corinthians 3:14–15 then says, “If what has been built survives, the builder will receive a reward. If it is burned up, the builder will suffer loss but yet will be saved—even though only as one escaping through the flames.”

According to 1 Corinthians 3, if our works are of good quality (“gold, silver, costly stones,” verse 12), they will pass through the “fire” unharmed, and we will be rewarded for them. If our works are of poor quality (“wood, hay or straw,” verse 12), they will be consumed by the “fire,” and there will be no reward. The fire is not literal in this passage, any more than the “gold” is literal gold or the “hay” is literal hay. The passage does not say that believers pass through the fire but that a believer’s works pass through the fire. That is, the works are put to the test. First Corinthians 3:15 refers to the believer “escaping through the flames,” not being cleansed by the flames. There is no purging of sin here, only a testing of works.

Purgatory, like many other Catholic dogmas, misrepresents the nature of Christ’s sacrifice. Catholics view the Mass/Holy Eucharist as a re-presentation of Christ’s sacrifice, which conflicts with the biblical teaching that Jesus’ once-for-all sacrifice was absolutely and perfectly sufficient (Hebrews 7:27). Catholics view meritorious works as contributing to one’s salvation rather than recognize that Jesus’ payment has no need of an additional “contribution” from us (Ephesians 2:8–9). Similarly, purgatory is taught to be a place of cleansing in preparation for heaven, overlooking the truth that, because of Jesus’ sacrifice, we are already cleansed. We are also justified, forgiven, redeemed, reconciled, adopted, and sanctified.

The very idea of purgatory and the doctrines that are often attached to it (prayers for the dead, indulgences, meritorious works on behalf of the dead, etc.) imply that Jesus’ death was insufficient to pay the penalty for sin. The Bible says that Jesus, who is God incarnate (John 1:1, 14), paid an infinite price for our sin by providing the only acceptable sacrifice (1 John 2:2). To limit Jesus’ sacrifice to atonement for original sin or for sins committed before salvation fails to reflect biblical teaching concerning His person and work. If we, in order to be saved, must pay for our own sin, then Jesus’ payment was not enough. If ridding ourselves of sin requires us to suffer interminably in purgatory, then Jesus’ suffering and death did not provide a powerful, perfect, and sufficient sacrifice.

Due to Christ’s death and resurrection, the believer’s position in heaven is as secure as can be. It’s as if we are already there: “It is by grace you have been saved! And God raised us up with Christ and seated us with Him in the heavenly realms in Christ Jesus” (Ephesians 2:5–6, BSB).

After death believers are “away from the body and at home with the Lord” (2 Corinthians 5:8; cf. Philippians 1:23). Notice that this verse does not say, “Away from the body and in purgatory suffering in cleansing fire.” Because of the powerful, perfect, and sufficient sacrifice of Jesus, we are taken immediately into the Lord’s presence when we die. Because we are in Christ, we are fully cleansed, free from sin, glorified, and perfected.

original article: What does the Bible say about purgatory? | GotQuestions.org
 
True indeed, the purgatory is false doctrine, which makes we wonder why do we hold on to many catholic teachings when we know they present things to us that is not in the scriptures.

An idea foundational to the doctrine of purgatory is that some of a believer’s sin has not yet been paid for. But Scripture teaches that Jesus died to pay the penalty for all our sins (Colossians 2:13). The Suffering Servant of Isaiah 53:5 took our place:
Just want to address minor point here, as everything else in the paragraph makes sense. It actually says that our sins were placed on Jesus Christ as you yourself highlighted. Jesus is a sin offering, not a sinner offering. If he was a sinner offering then no man would go to the lake of fire but we know people will be there. So Jesus didn't take our place what he took was our sins, as it is written "behold the lamb of God which taketh away the sins of the world"
 
I dont know if purgatory is real or not. I know for a fact that many things about heaven and hell and that sort of realms in general will at the very least be unknowable until after we die and even then probably not all of it. I see it as a bit arrogant to state anything as real or unreal in those realms when scripture isnt very clear on it. But my mind tells me that heaven is so pure and righteous that any angel that was rebellious was thrown out of heaven. Christians are far far far from being righteous enough to dwell in the purity of heaven. Jesus saved us from eternal death, and I am grateful for His life giving acts. But NOWHERE in scripture is it made clear exactly what happens to us all after death, and I dont know that I would want my imperfect self to reside in heaven with its purity so as to make it impure. I personally think a holding place(s) for our spirits after death would be a good choice. A place where those who are reprobate (never willing to chose God's path for us) and a seperate place where those who choose to be more like Christ reside. Then another place called heaven where we might be allowed to visit a small part of it, but not live there until we have been refined (as fire refines silver and gold). Does anyone think they are pure enough now to live in heaven or do you think heaven is somewhat impure but just not as bad as here on earth?
 
Jesus did ONCE for us or He did not.
It was sufficient or NOT.
Purgatory is NOT sound teaching nor is in the Bible.
What "flawed men" added including Indulgences is also not from God.
 
Jesus did ONCE for us or He did not.
It was sufficient or NOT.
Purgatory is NOT sound teaching nor is in the Bible.
What "flawed men" added including Indulgences is also not from God.

Do you believe you can lose your salvation? Yes or No?
Do you believe God is just? Yes or No?

If you believe you can lose / shipwreck your salvation and that God is just, you 'have' to believe in Purgatory.

It's a 1 + 1 = 2 sum.

Non-OSAS implies that:

Person A can repent and be used by God to serve Him for 2hrs, after which they receive eternal bliss.

Person B can repent and be used by God to serve Him for 50 years, after which they stumble terribly in year 51 and receive eternal punishment.

That makes God terribly unjust, unless of course person B gets a second chance in Purgatory.

Non-OSAS believers who reject Purgatory hit a brick wall. I have yet to meet one who is not a Catholic and 'deals' with this fact.
 
Don't Catholics defend purgatory using the books they add to the bible (apocrypha)?

There is some support in Maccabees, but from research I did a while back, it is a collation of 15 or so Scriptures put together to infer it. Not a single verse directly mentions such a place.

But before anyone attacks Catholics, we have to properly understand that they arrive at this belief out of a desire to defend God's goodness and uphold Him as just, as explained above in post #6. There are absolutely no ill intentions behind promoting this belief.

God is just. That is a fact. If non-OSAS is also a fact, then Purgatory is a logical inference.
 
Jesus did ONCE for us or He did not.
It was sufficient or NOT.
Purgatory is NOT sound teaching nor is in the Bible.
What "flawed men" added including Indulgences is also not from God.

Just on the first part of your post, I can't argue against that.

Catholics teach that everyone in Purgatory will eventually enter heaven. So they see it as a necessary 'extra' purification, which, most definitely undermines what Jesus accomplished on the cross.

I agree with the idea of it only insofar as it is seen as a second chance for those who served God throughout their lives but stumbled towards the end.
 
I dont know if purgatory is real or not. I know for a fact that many things about heaven and hell and that sort of realms in general will at the very least be unknowable until after we die and even then probably not all of it. I see it as a bit arrogant to state anything as real or unreal in those realms when scripture isnt very clear on it.

Nothing is arrogant if the intention is to defend God's character as just and righteous. God being just and righteous are facts we can rely on.

For example, I will infer pleasantries on hell all day long when scripture does not mention any. I will use the fact that outside of the four curses God mentioned to Adam and Eve in Genesis 3:17-19, there are many pleasantries on earth. Why can it not be the same with eternal hell?

This is all Catholics are doing with Purgatory. They saw a hurdle with teaching non-OSAS and God being just.

But my mind tells me that heaven is so pure and righteous that any angel that was rebellious was thrown out of heaven.

I don't believe that at all. Jesus makes it crystal clear in Mark 10:18 that ........ only........ God is perfectly good. Meditate on that.

Therefore it is seems logical that those who fell crossed a line of no return. Much like we see with every example in scripture where God's wrath came upon the wicked on the earth only when their sin was 'full measure'.

Christians are far far far from being righteous enough to dwell in the purity of heaven.

Completely disagree. A Christian is made perfect to God by Jesus. There is such a special and deep bond between God and a true Christian. No 'human flaws' carry weight with God. Perfect 'to God' will never ever be 'perfect like God'.

Heb 10:14 For by one offering He has perfected forever those who are being sanctified.

Jesus saved us from eternal death, and I am grateful for His life giving acts. But NOWHERE in scripture is it made clear exactly what happens to us all after death, and I dont know that I would want my imperfect self to reside in heaven with its purity so as to make it impure. I personally think a holding place(s) for our spirits after death would be a good choice. A place where those who are reprobate (never willing to chose God's path for us) and a seperate place where those who choose to be more like Christ reside. Then another place called heaven where we might be allowed to visit a small part of it, but not live there until we have been refined (as fire refines silver and gold). Does anyone think they are pure enough now to live in heaven or do you think heaven is somewhat impure but just not as bad as here on earth?

You need to try understand what a Christian is.

Think of yourself in an army. A guy called Bob bullies you everyday. Then one day the Iranians shoot at you and you are about to die as its a head shot, but then Bob leaps in front of you and takes the bullet for you. After that Bob will surely always be welcome in your house?

It is impossible for Bob to hate you at the level required for you to kick him out your house if he once loved you at the level required to take a bullet for you.

Christianity is all about God laying His life down for us and us doing likewise. That, is the qualifying criteria to being saved. Jesus only saves (cart) those who lay down their lives for Him (Horse). Many get the cart before the horse.

Luke 9:23 “Then He said to them all, ‘If anyone desires to come after Me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow Me.

Matt 16:25 “For whoever desires to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for My sake will find it.”

Rom 12:1 “I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that you present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable to God, which is your reasonable service.”

2 Cor 5:15 “And He died for all, that those who live should live no longer for themselves, but for Him who died for them and rose again.

Rev 2:10 “Be faithful until death, and I will give you the crown of life.”
 
True indeed, the purgatory is false doctrine, which makes we wonder why do we hold on to many catholic teachings when we know they present things to us that is not in the scriptures.

A lot of Catholic teaching is sound. Far more than many people realise.

Just want to address minor point here, as everything else in the paragraph makes sense. It actually says that our sins were placed on Jesus Christ as you yourself highlighted. Jesus is a sin offering, not a sinner offering. If he was a sinner offering then no man would go to the lake of fire but we know people will be there. So Jesus didn't take our place what he took was our sins, as it is written "behold the lamb of God which taketh away the sins of the world"

Can you please elaborate further on what you are alluding to? I don't want to make any false assumptions.
 
Short answer: The Bible says nothing about purgatory. But since many people believe in purgatory, we should examine the doctrine in light of Scripture.

According to the Catholic Encyclopedia, purgatory is “a place or condition of temporal punishment for those who, departing this life in God’s grace, are not entirely free from venial faults, or have not fully paid the satisfaction due to their transgressions.” In other words, in Catholic theology purgatory is the place where a Christian’s soul goes after death to be cleansed of the sins that had not been fully paid for during life. Is the doctrine of purgatory in agreement with the Bible? Absolutely not!

An idea foundational to the doctrine of purgatory is that some of a believer’s sin has not yet been paid for. But Scripture teaches that Jesus died to pay the penalty for all our sins (Colossians 2:13). The Suffering Servant of Isaiah 53:5 took our place: “But he was pierced for our transgressions, he was crushed for our iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace was on him, and by his wounds we are healed.” Jesus suffered for our sins so that we could be delivered from suffering. To say that we must also suffer for our sins is to say that Jesus’ suffering was insufficient in some way. To say that we ourselves must atone for our sins is to deny the adequacy of the atoning sacrifice of Jesus (1 John 2:2). The idea that those who are saved by grace through faith have to pay for their sins after death is contrary to everything the Bible says about salvation.

The primary scriptural passage Catholics point to for evidence of purgatory is 1 Corinthians 3. Verses 10–15 picture the Christian life as a building project, with the caution that “each one should build with care” (1 Corinthians 3:10). Our work will be tested and “will be shown for what it is, because the Day will bring it to light. It will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test the quality of each person’s work” (verse 13). At the judgment seat of Christ, we must give an account of what we’ve done for Christ. First Corinthians 3:14–15 then says, “If what has been built survives, the builder will receive a reward. If it is burned up, the builder will suffer loss but yet will be saved—even though only as one escaping through the flames.”

According to 1 Corinthians 3, if our works are of good quality (“gold, silver, costly stones,” verse 12), they will pass through the “fire” unharmed, and we will be rewarded for them. If our works are of poor quality (“wood, hay or straw,” verse 12), they will be consumed by the “fire,” and there will be no reward. The fire is not literal in this passage, any more than the “gold” is literal gold or the “hay” is literal hay. The passage does not say that believers pass through the fire but that a believer’s works pass through the fire. That is, the works are put to the test. First Corinthians 3:15 refers to the believer “escaping through the flames,” not being cleansed by the flames. There is no purging of sin here, only a testing of works.

Purgatory, like many other Catholic dogmas, misrepresents the nature of Christ’s sacrifice. Catholics view the Mass/Holy Eucharist as a re-presentation of Christ’s sacrifice, which conflicts with the biblical teaching that Jesus’ once-for-all sacrifice was absolutely and perfectly sufficient (Hebrews 7:27). Catholics view meritorious works as contributing to one’s salvation rather than recognize that Jesus’ payment has no need of an additional “contribution” from us (Ephesians 2:8–9). Similarly, purgatory is taught to be a place of cleansing in preparation for heaven, overlooking the truth that, because of Jesus’ sacrifice, we are already cleansed. We are also justified, forgiven, redeemed, reconciled, adopted, and sanctified.

The very idea of purgatory and the doctrines that are often attached to it (prayers for the dead, indulgences, meritorious works on behalf of the dead, etc.) imply that Jesus’ death was insufficient to pay the penalty for sin. The Bible says that Jesus, who is God incarnate (John 1:1, 14), paid an infinite price for our sin by providing the only acceptable sacrifice (1 John 2:2). To limit Jesus’ sacrifice to atonement for original sin or for sins committed before salvation fails to reflect biblical teaching concerning His person and work. If we, in order to be saved, must pay for our own sin, then Jesus’ payment was not enough. If ridding ourselves of sin requires us to suffer interminably in purgatory, then Jesus’ suffering and death did not provide a powerful, perfect, and sufficient sacrifice.

Due to Christ’s death and resurrection, the believer’s position in heaven is as secure as can be. It’s as if we are already there: “It is by grace you have been saved! And God raised us up with Christ and seated us with Him in the heavenly realms in Christ Jesus” (Ephesians 2:5–6, BSB).

After death believers are “away from the body and at home with the Lord” (2 Corinthians 5:8; cf. Philippians 1:23). Notice that this verse does not say, “Away from the body and in purgatory suffering in cleansing fire.” Because of the powerful, perfect, and sufficient sacrifice of Jesus, we are taken immediately into the Lord’s presence when we die. Because we are in Christ, we are fully cleansed, free from sin, glorified, and perfected.

original article: What does the Bible say about purgatory? | GotQuestions.org

I agree with your overall conclusion, but I think a few points need further discussion.

Christ's sacrifice and purgatory: Catholics do not officially teach that Christ's sacrifice was insufficient. They argue that purgatory is a purification made possible by Christ's sacrifice. However, I believe the doctrine still undermines the sufficiency of what Jesus accomplished on the cross. Catholics need to better understand the Protestant objection here: if Christ's sacrifice fully dealt with our sins, why is further purification after death necessary before we can enter heaven?

The Mass: Catholics do not believe Christ is sacrificed repeatedly as though His original sacrifice were insufficient. They teach that the one sacrifice of Christ is made present in the Mass. We can disagree with that interpretation without misrepresenting their position.

Works and salvation: Catholic teaching does not claim that we earn our initial justification independently of God's grace. The real disagreement concerns the role Catholicism assigns to works and human cooperation after receiving grace.
  • Catholic view: We are saved by God's grace, but our cooperation with that grace and our good works matter in our final salvation.
  • Protestant objection: Good works are the fruit of salvation, not a contribution towards earning or maintaining our justification.
The difference is the same we have with non-OSAS verse OSAS Protestants. Non-OSAS Protestants align with the Catholic view.

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Ultimately, I believe the strongest argument against purgatory is that numerous Scriptures teach the sufficiency of Christ’s sacrifice and give believers the hope of being with the Lord immediately after death.
 
A lot of Catholic teaching is sound. Far more than many people realise.
John 16: 13
13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

Well if the preacher of an organization knowingly teach a lie then it is not God's church. It actually belongs to Satan. All you need to do is tell one lie and the entire bible will collapse because God don't tell no lie. So if the Catholic church is preaching something not biblical then people should stay away but instead people flock to it just because they got the truth mixed in. Good liars cannot tell a complete lie otherwise the lie won't be believable.
Can you please elaborate further on what you are alluding to? I don't want to make any false assumptions.
Not sure I understand, I only stated what the scripture says I don't have no dog in this fight.

The original poster was already correct when he said Jesus died for our sins. So I thought he may have made an error when he said "jesus took our place". The punishment for mans sin is eternal death which is the Lake of fire. Which means from the time Adam and Eve sinned in the Garden of Eden we were all heading to the lake of fire even if we obeyed God. So God had restore eternal life back to us and he did this by paying for our sins. This is already perfectly laid out by Isaiah 53 as pointed in this post already. I didn't make anything up when I said Jesus is a sin offering the same chapter literally says this already.

Isaiah 53: 10
10 Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the Lord shall prosper in his hand.

So this is what I mean when I stated that Jesus is a sin offering.
 
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