Was Peter a member of the Body of Christ.

[rhern53]

Jewish tradition is wrong to go by since Christs death burial and resurrection. To follow the law, is a slap in Christs face. By default, Jewish religion does not believe Jesus was the Christ. So how in the world are they in a saved state? They are not. See the book of Hebrews.





I agree here. The law was blotted out by Christs sacrifice. Anyone who wishes to obey the gospel will be in Christs kingdom thereby becoming a Christian under the new covenant.

those Jews who believe in the Lord will live
they base their confession of Faith on who Jesus is, The Christ, Messiah, Lord and savior

Peter said it:

Matthew 16:16 King James Version (KJV)
16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.

Jesus was satisfied with this confession. He was not dead yet.



Acts 8:
34 And the eunuch answered Philip, and said, I pray thee, of whom speaketh the prophet this? of himself, or of some other man?

35 Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus.

36 And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized?

37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.

But This is Peter's confession of Faith and it holds true to all Jewish believers.
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Why did Philip not tell the eunuch to say "Because I believe that Jesus suffer and died and is risen seated at the right Hand of the Father."

Or "The Blood of Jesus Has washed away my sins".

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[Acts2:38]

No I used the wrong word

Acts 20:24-25 King James Version
24 But none of these things move me, neither count I my life dear unto myself, so that I might finish my course with joy, and the ministry, which I have received of the Lord Jesus, to testify the gospel of the grace of God.

25 And now, behold, I know that ye all, among whom I have gone preaching the kingdom of God, shall see my face no more.

my words mean nothing The Word of God means everything.

don't look at my words look at the passages

1 Gospel = the Gospel of Grace

Oh okay.

I agree scripture is everything, but its what people are claiming that needs to be set right in accordance with scripture lest people be lead astray. Thank you for clarifying though.

So is it just the issue with Peter then?

Because some either is a Christian or they are not. They are either in Christs body or they are not. They are saved or they are not. But never is there any "fence straddling", for example, Peter denying the gospel yet still being saved. To deny the gospel yet still be saved is a complete contradiction.

Yet, Peter was not denying the gospel. He preached it before Saul became Paul in Acts 2. He also told the Jews that the gentiles are included in the kingdom in Acts 11 after his mission to Cornelius in Acts 10. Peter even includes himself in those who obey and believe the gospel in Peters 2nd epistle.

 

[Acts2:38]

those Jews who believe in the Lord will live
they base their confession of Faith on who Jesus is, The Christ, Messiah, Lord and savior

Peter said it:

Matthew 16:16 King James Version (KJV)
16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.

Jesus was satisfied with this confession. He was not dead yet.

There is neither jew nor greek. We are called Christians, Galatians 3:28-29. You cannot be in Judaism and still be a Christian. The writer of Hebrews states as much.

Yes, Jesus was not dead yet in Matt 16, but Peter still confessed him. He also confessed Christ and the gospel in Acts 2.

Acts 8:
34 And the eunuch answered Philip, and said, I pray thee, of whom speaketh the prophet this? of himself, or of some other man?

35 Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus.

36 And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized?

37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.

But This is Peter's confession of Faith and it holds true to all Jewish believers.
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Why did Philip not tell the eunuch to say "Because I believe that Jesus suffer and died and is risen seated at the right Hand of the Father."

Or "The Blood of Jesus Has washed away my sins".

Philip did tell the eunuch. When you preach Christ, you inherently preach all the necessary things that pertain to someone learning of salvation so they can make the choice and obtain salvation.

Philip obviously told the eunuch because the eunuch mentions "see here is water, what hinders me?"

Now look at Galatians 3:26-27; then look at Romans 6:3-5; Acts 2:38 and the many other conversions.

Again, when you teach about Christ, you are teaching the gospel and everything that would pertain to how one can be saved.

 

[rhern53]

Oh okay.

I agree scripture is everything, but its what people are claiming that needs to be set right in accordance with scripture lest people be lead astray. Thank you for clarifying though.

So is it just the issue with Peter then?

Because some either is a Christian or they are not. They are either in Christs body or they are not. They are saved or they are not. But never is there any "fence straddling", for example, Peter denying the gospel yet still being saved. To deny the gospel yet still be saved is a complete contradiction.

Yet, Peter was not denying the gospel. He preached it before Saul became Paul in Acts 2. He also told the Jews that the gentiles are included in the kingdom in Acts 11 after his mission to Cornelius in Acts 10. Peter even includes himself in those who obey and believe the gospel in Peters 2nd epistle.

Yes you might say Peter recognized salvation by Grace so yes He was what we might say on the fence.
But He was assigned a very important job and that was to Judge, with the other 11, the 12 tribes of Israel with Christ on the throne.
This was His destiny. In 2nd Peter 3 he mentions it is hard too understand Paul's writing. Under stand that there were times that God hid things from their understanding, this was probably one of those times.

15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;

16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
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So peter is in a good position, I'm sure he is happy about his responsibilities

 

[Acts2:38]

Yes you might say Peter recognized salvation by Grace so yes He was what we might say on the fence.
But He was assigned a very important job and that was to Judge, with the other 11, the 12 tribes of Israel with Christ on the throne.
This was His destiny. In 2nd Peter 3 he mentions it is hard too understand Paul's writing. Under stand that there were times that God hid things from their understanding, this was probably one of those times.

15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;

16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
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So peter is in a good position, I'm sure he is happy about his responsibilities

Okay, I see where your at now. Though I do not know where you got the part about his job being a "judge" with the "other tribes". As far as I see in scripture, the apostles job was Matthew 28:19-20. I do realize they sent epistles to correct or edify churches and spread the gospel, but I dont see them as judges.

My one gripe though against what you say, is that I would say Peter fully understood Paul, but was in understanding with those not on the same level of knowledge as him, that it could be hard for them. In 2 Peter 3, Peter is agreeing that some of Pauls teachings are hard, but Peter is by no means stating that he didnt follow the gospel or didnt understand the gospel, or even that it was too hard for him. Remember, Peter is an apostle picked by Christ. Peter was filled with the Holy Spirit and guided by the Holy Spirit just the same as Paul.

Peter not only recognized "salvation by grace" as you say, but he was also in it and followed it. Peter was not a fence straddler. He may have been corrected once, but that by no means states that he only recognized but stopped short of doing.

There is a saying in terms of property "God lives on one side and satan the other, but the satan owns the fence"

Peter was not a fence straddler.

 

[rhern53]

Okay, I see where your at now. Though I do not know where you got the part about his job being a "judge" with the "other tribes". As far as I see in scripture, the apostles job was Matthew 28:19-20. I do realize they sent epistles to correct or edify churches and spread the gospel, but I dont see them as judges.

My one gripe though against what you say, is that I would say Peter fully understood Paul, but was in understanding with those not on the same level of knowledge as him, that it could be hard for them. In 2 Peter 3, Peter is agreeing that some of Pauls teachings are hard, but Peter is by no means stating that he didnt follow the gospel or didnt understand the gospel, or even that it was too hard for him. Remember, Peter is an apostle picked by Christ. Peter was filled with the Holy Spirit and guided by the Holy Spirit just the same as Paul.

Peter not only recognized "salvation by grace" as you say, but he was also in it and followed it. Peter was not a fence straddler. He may have been corrected once, but that by no means states that he only recognized but stopped short of doing.

There is a saying in terms of property "God lives on one side and satan the other, but the satan owns the fence"

Peter was not a fence straddler.

your Right, Peter a soldier for the Lord

 

[Acts2:38]

your Right, Peter a soldier for the Lord

I really appreciate you discussing this with me and the patience and time invested. With this, I believe we are both on the same page at this conclusion.