Was Judas chosen to be shafted??

[rojoloco]

You said: God simply does not know or choose to know How man is going to respond to him. After all, we are created on his level, and in his class.
It could be God really did mean he wanted Children, and just did not make that up. We really could be his offspring like Acts says, and that was not some misprint.

Are you also rojoloco? You sure sound the same.

I'm sorry but when have I ever claimed that God does not know something. Every single one of my posts declares God's absolute sovereignty. In fact, I fail to see how much of anything in my posts relates to Brother Mike except for the way he ends his posts as Jesus is Lord. Other than that, we tend to disagree on most things in brotherly love. I'm just a tad confused how I got lumped into this when I never made any such claim. If anything, it might causer others (who have never read my posts) to think I believe this way when I have stated the exact opposite.

 

[RJ]

Though the Amplified does use the Word Omniscient, the Word does not denote God knows every choice we make from start to finish.

It just means at any given time God has the ability to know.



Jesus said the Holy Spirit will show you things to come, and there is the Holy Spirit Gift of Wisdom. What does that say? It says God is more than able to bring things to pass. It does not say we don't have a choice to follow those things. To do so would mean that we have no choice but to obey, and I can say for one that I have ignored the Holy Spirit telling me something to come, to my own hurt. I choose not to be a doer, but just heard. Had God knew I was going to ignore him ahead of time, Or that people would make the wrong choices, then God is so stupid as to waste his time warning us that certain actions are harmful. Why bother.

You have not taken the time to read my MANY scriptures where God went to look and see, or changed his mind.

If you choose to only read part of a thread, or ignore other scripture, then with all due respect, there is not much that you can be taught.

Mike........

You are rojoloco! Exactly what does that translate into English?

Blessing to you my friend, you are right about one thing, I certainly can't be taught by you, nor do I want to: your teaching approaches satanic!
Good day to you sir!!!

 

[rojoloco]

Though the Amplified does use the Word Omniscient, the Word does not denote God knows every choice we make from start to finish.

It just means at any given time God has the ability to know.

I beg your pardon?!?!?!?!?

in whatever our heart condemns us; for God is greater than our heart and knows all things.

Are not two sparrows sold for a cent? And yet not one of them will fall to the ground apart from your Father. "But very hairs of your head are all numbered.

Even before there is a word on my tongue,
Behold, O LORD, You know it all.

Indeed, God knows all things. Nothing is outside of His knowledge. It is not merely ability to know but that He absolutely knows!

 

[Brother Mike]

You missed again...........

God knows the number of hair on our heads....................

That does not denote that he knows someones life from start to finish or even Programed that person as a robot to go to destruction or go to salvation.
God's ability to count something may be far greater than ours, but your reaching!!!!! as you are grasping scriptures.

Heart:

God searches for a heart that is perfect toward him..... Why all the searching if he made everyone to fail or succeed??? could be he just forgets at times and has to recheck???

So, God's ability to know what is really in our heart, and what is really our intent give him the right to judge. Once again this is backed by other scriptures (bet you think he needed to test Job with Satans help, to see if Job would curse him???)

This says nothing about the topic of man and predestination........ Just that God truly knows our heart...........

STill if your a calvin........ then no point in God knowing your heart as God has already decided your fate. I am sure those scriptures must seem to be a waste of space....... Or it could be like I stated... God just may forget who gets shafted and who does not.. so he has to make a check to be sure............

Tongue:

Jesus said your father knows you have need of these things before you ask him....

Even before there is a word on my tongue,
Behold, O LORD, You know it all.

While they are yet praying I will answer.......

What does God know all?? What is about to come out of your mouth.. No wonder, he knows your thoughts and what is in your heart... Being able to count you hair, I am sure he can count your bills and know you have a need, and will be hearing from you soon.

Knowing all that comes from the tongue is no evidence of predestination.


you really need to try harder brother!!!!!

Jesus Is Lord.