Valuation and Self-Valuation

[TheWordIsOne]

Greetings
if I may, yesterday I saw a vision of the future of the Church?

The central theme is Transparent, introducing by exposing, prejudice.

Transparent by exposing, rumors and deep prejudice, and racist

By bringing light into the congregation.

Must have facts-numbers and figures, the percentage of the number of different and the indifference of many denominations in the entire world, solution central theme, the gospels.

A resolve of individual, agreement, and disagreement, on the subject on hands.

A resolve in identifying the root of problems, detecting the cause of the fallout in the congregation, and the Church, and finding a permanent solution where all parties agree.

Must not deviate central theme, the gospel.

Looking for impact outside the system, for critical eye at the central core of the problem

I’ll seek out an identity in unbelief in 3 major topics God the Father, God the Son, and the Holy Spirit.

How by 3 belief systems, by separating that unbelief, in 3 major topics by separating, by the percentage of each denomination in what is the true definition, of why the division of what is to be a Christians, Christianity as Christ the head of everything

I will filter out cults and religious beliefs and can show you this division, by traditional belief

This is changing the way how we see each other, and to bring the change that is needed for success

this is inexperience in ministry or the word incipience

An organization or I would say the office of Christ Jesus, with an A-Team of the best mind in this field to resolve the issues individual, agreement and disagree, again 3 major topics God the Father, God the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
But this takes resources!
This is to expose imposters in the body of Christ, one that is polluting the body.

I am doing an intense study in this field and will find the core problem, a first organization about or by the percentage of each denomination, cult, and religious belief.
Filter out this percentage of each denomination, for instance, autonomous churches, which are many autonomous churches throughout the world.

A most difficult task, this is an experiment, public opinion will be open, with absolute courtesy
In my first task, an organization about or by the percentage of each denomination, cult, and religious belief, I will seek, to mapping out a solution based on the Gospel

Note: mapping out a solution based on the Gospel, a prototype

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thank you

 

[Luminary]

Greetings
if I may, yesterday I saw a vision of the future of the Church?

The central theme is Transparent, introducing by exposing, prejudice.

Transparent by exposing, rumors and deep prejudice, and racist

By bringing light into the congregation.

Must have facts-numbers and figures, the percentage of the number of different and the indifference of many denominations in the entire world, solution central theme, the gospels.

A resolve of individual, agreement, and disagreement, on the subject on hands.

A resolve in identifying the root of problems, detecting the cause of the fallout in the congregation, and the Church, and finding a permanent solution where all parties agree.

Must not deviate central theme, the gospel.

Looking for impact outside the system, for critical eye at the central core of the problem

I’ll seek out an identity in unbelief in 3 major topics God the Father, God the Son, and the Holy Spirit.

How by 3 belief systems, by separating that unbelief, in 3 major topics by separating, by the percentage of each denomination in what is the true definition, of why the division of what is to be a Christians, Christianity as Christ the head of everything

I will filter out cults and religious beliefs and can show you this division, by traditional belief

This is changing the way how we see each other, and to bring the change that is needed for success

this is inexperience in ministry or the word incipience

An organization or I would say the office of Christ Jesus, with an A-Team of the best mind in this field to resolve the issues individual, agreement and disagree, again 3 major topics God the Father, God the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
But this takes resources!
This is to expose imposters in the body of Christ, one that is polluting the body.

I am doing an intense study in this field and will find the core problem, a first organization about or by the percentage of each denomination, cult, and religious belief.
Filter out this percentage of each denomination, for instance, autonomous churches, which are many autonomous churches throughout the world.

A most difficult task, this is an experiment, public opinion will be open, with absolute courtesy
In my first task, an organization about or by the percentage of each denomination, cult, and religious belief, I will seek, to mapping out a solution based on the Gospel

Note: mapping out a solution based on the Gospel, a prototype

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thank you

I’m not quite sure what you are saying…

Are you doing a poll? On specific beliefs?

Or are you trying to bring all together under one “roof”?

 

[TheWordIsOne]

I’m not quite sure what you are saying…

Are you doing a poll? On specific beliefs?

Or are you trying to bring all together under one “roof”?

Greetings
yes, first I'll bing the cause then you guys decide like a poll, the difference is the central theme, one body, one Spirit, and one God
filtering out polluting the body, but purifying the body of Christ, this is in progress

purification comes from the Holy Spirit
And yes specific beliefs?
I ask only please bear with me

 

[Luminary]

Greetings
yes, first I'll bing the cause then you guys decide like a poll, the difference is the central theme, one body, one Spirit, and one God
filtering out polluting the body, but purifying the body of Christ, this is in progress

purification comes from the Holy Spirit
And yes specific beliefs?
I ask only please bear with me

Interesting!

Do you mind if I ask how you are doing this?

 

[TheWordIsOne]

Interesting!

Do you mind if I ask how you are doing this?

Searching
the key is Holy Spirit
I say this, if a person is anointed by the Holy Spirit, then they would of the spirit of truth
this way you know that God is true, something else can not say,
the evidence will be revealed, like forensic science the details, but most of you should know, but Christians ignore it

there is a fly in the ointment

Chance favors only the prepared mind​

 

[Luminary]

Searching
the key is Holy Spirit
I say this, if a person is anointed by the Holy Spirit, then they would of the spirit of truth
this way you know that God is true, something else can not say,
the evidence will be revealed, like forensic science the details, but most of you should know, but Christians ignore it

there is a fly in the ointment

Chance favors only the prepared mind​

Hmmmm…Ok

I’m not one that believes in chance, but purpose! And I find it interesting that you take up a task such as this, as there are a few I’ve come across who are working along the same lines!

God is certainly about his work

 

[TheWordIsOne]

greetings
first, everyone must know what is wrong, the bad news, the Holy Spirit provides, in the order must filter the pollution, and I see already, and He sees more, your words your hearts, what you do is pushing Him away, the working of the Holy Spirit, you must know He is real person, you must acknowledge Him as so.

NO ONE CAN SAY SOMETHING HE NEVER SAID
if you continue Just Christ did in John 2: 13-16: Matthew 21:12

1 Corinthians 4:21 What do you want? Shall I come to you with a rod, or in love and a spirit of gentleness?
I suggest writing down the information

 

[TheWordIsOne]

note: my spelling is not up to speed, in other words, perfection is looking for what is imperfect, that perfectly

 

[Luminary]

note: my spelling is not up to speed, in other words, perfection is looking for what is imperfect, that perfectly

I’m not worried about your spelling

I’m trying to see what exactly you are speaking on….

As it doesn’t seem to have anything to do with what I asked you, but rather speaking towards me…not with me….

 

[TheWordIsOne]

I’m not worried about your spelling

I’m trying to see what exactly you are speaking on….

As it doesn’t seem to have anything to do with what I asked you, but rather speaking towards me…not with me….

greetings
Yes just missing understanding that leads to offense

I’m not one that believes in chance, but purpose! And I find it interesting that you take up a task such as this, as there are a few I’ve come across who are working along the same lines!

Love is better
my information is deep because that are the deep things of God
I can have many gifts of the Holy Spirit, but if don't have love above any gifts, then I do the same, as some folks, do but love is what Christ is love above
In any lesson love and trust

I John 4:17-18 Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment; as he is, so are in this world. There is no fear in love, but perfect love casteth out fear; because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.

Job 28:28 And unto man he said, behold, the fear of the Lord, that is wisdom; and to depart from evil is understanding.

Deuteronomy 6:1-2 Now these are the commandments, the statutes, and the judgments, which the Lord you God commanded to teach you, that ye might do them in the land whither ye go to possess it; that thou mightest fear the Lord thy God, to keep all his statutes and his commandments, which I command thee, thou and thy son, and thy son’s son, all the days of thy life; and that the days may be prolonged.

Deuteronomy 8:6 Therefore thou shalt keep the commandments of the Lord thy God, to walk in his ways, and fear him.

II Kings 17:36-39 But the Lord, who brought you up out of the land of Egypt with great authority and a stretched out arm, he shall ye fear, and he shall ye worship, and to him shall ye do sacrifice. And the statutes, and the ordinances, and the law, and the commandments, which he wrote for you, ye shall observe to do for evermore; and ye shall not fear other gods. And the covenant that I have made with you ye shall not forget; neither shall ye fear other gods. But the Lord your God ye shall fear, and he shall deliver you out of the hand of all your enemies.

I Chronicles 16:29-30 Give unto the Lord the glory due unto his name; bring an offering, and come before him; worship the Lord in the beauty of holiness. Fear before him, all the earth; the world also shall be stable, that it be not moved.

Psalm 33:8 Let all the earth fear the Lord; let all the inhabitants of thee world stand in awe of him.

Daniel 6:26 I make a decree, That in every dominion of my6 kingdom men tremble and fear before the God of Daniel; for he is the living God, and steadfast forever, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed and his dominion shall be even unto the end.

Luke 12:4-5 And I say unto you my friends, be not afraid of them that kill the body, and after that have no more than they can do. But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear; Fear him which after he hath killed, hath authority and power to cast into hell; yea I say unto you, fear him.

Psalm 111:10 The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom; a good understanding has all they that do his commandments; his praise endureth forever.

Proverbs 14:26-27 In the fear of the Lord is strong confidence; his children shall have a place of refuge. The fear of the Lord is a fountain of life, to depart from the snares of death.

Isaiah 33:5-6 The Lord is exalted; for he dwelleth on high; he hath Zion with judgment and righteousness, and wisdom and knowledge shall be the stability of thy times, and strength of salvation; fear of the Lord is his treasure.

Jeremiah 46:28 Fear thou not, O Jacob my servant, saith the Lord, for I am with thee; for I will make a full end of all the nations whither I have driven thee; but I will not make a full end of thee, but correct thee in measure; yet will I not leave thee wholly unpunished.

Proverbs 3:25 Be not afraid of sudden fear neither of the desolation of the wicked when it cometh.

In these words, the Holy Spirit shows me, love

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[Luminary]

I’m not sure why you would want to offend me? There is not much that can. Except when it come to the scriptures and how they are used.

Indeed Love, His Love is truly the end result and how to get there, but it must be perfected. And if you are saying that it hasn’t been perfected in me, and at that I might take offense in that….I wouldn’t. Because I’m not. I’m still most certainly a child in such things. And have admitted that I have yet to put childish things behind me.

But there is no need for you to speak around such things with me. For I would rather you speak Plainly. And if you bear the Spirit, then my Spirit will hear it. You need not speak in riddles.

 

[TheWordIsOne]

I’m not sure why you would want to offend me? There is not much that can. Except when it come to the scriptures and how they are used.

Indeed Love, His Love is truly the end result and how to get there, but it must be perfected. And if you are saying that it hasn’t been perfected in me, and at that I might take offense in that….I wouldn’t. Because I’m not. I’m still most certainly a child in such things. And have admitted that I have yet to put childish things behind me.

But there is no need for you to speak around such things with me. For I would rather you speak Plainly. And if you bear the Spirit, then my Spirit will hear it. You need not speak in riddles.

Greeting

Except when it comes to the scriptures and how they are used.

Yes, I agree, but riddles. are parables, as the spirit is like a parable meaning Holy Spirit speaks in great wisdom,
may I ask you a question who bears witness to Christ's birth, it says that Christ came in the flesh, but who bears witness in heaven and on earth?
Matthew 13: 13

If you say

And if you bear the Spirit, then my Spirit will hear it.

I wouldn’t. Because I’m not. I’m still most certainly a child in such things. And have admitted that I have yet to put childish things behind me.

Matthew 18:2-5 Then Jesus called a little child to Him, set him in the midst of them, and said, "Assuredly, I say to you, unless you are converted and become as little children, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven.
Therefore whoever humbles himself as this little child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven.
Whoever receives one little child like this in My name receives Me.
A truly great man never but away the simplicity of a child
Luke 18: 16

A riddles
Romans 16: 25-27 Now to him that is of power to establish you according to my gospel and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began. But now is made manifest and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith

 

[TheWordIsOne]

I’m not worried about your spelling

I’m trying to see what exactly you are speaking on….

As it doesn’t seem to have anything to do with what I asked you, but rather speaking towards me…not with me….

Greetings
Do you understand what it means is an Advanced Disciple?

 

[Luminary]

Greeting


Yes, I agree, but riddles. are parables, as the spirit is like a parable meaning Holy Spirit speaks in great wisdom,
may I ask you a question who bears witness to Christ's birth, it says that Christ came in the flesh, but who bears witness in heaven and on earth?
Matthew 13: 13

If you say


Matthew 18:2-5 Then Jesus called a little child to Him, set him in the midst of them, and said, "Assuredly, I say to you, unless you are converted and become as little children, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven.
Therefore whoever humbles himself as this little child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven.
Whoever receives one little child like this in My name receives Me.
A truly great man never but away the simplicity of a child
Luke 18: 16

A riddles
Romans 16: 25-27 Now to him that is of power to establish you according to my gospel and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began. But now is made manifest and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith

Riddles seek answers. Parables give them in a concept portrayed symbolically through a story.
You are not speaking in parables but riddles. I learn better when spoken too directly and plainly if this is what you are after
……….
The Father, The Spirit and The blood.
The Word testifies.
(In us-once born)
………

To become as a child, is to be of pure intent, pure curiosity, pure selflessness, and pure Trust(ing)/(Faith)

The mystery Is the workings of the Spirit within us to become (a) Christ unto Salvation from the Flesh.
—Or the Fullness of Maturity(growth) of our Spiritual nature. -this changing the flesh to another state (of being)

 

[Luminary]

Greetings
Do you understand what it means is an Advanced Disciple?

Would you mind repeating the question?

 

[TheWordIsOne]

Riddles seek answers. Parables give them in a concept portrayed symbolically through a story.
You are not speaking in parables but riddles. I learn better when spoken too directly and plainly if this is what you are after
……….
The Father, The Spirit and The blood.
The Word testifies.
(In us-once born)
………

To become as a child, is to be of pure intent, pure curiosity, pure selflessness, and pure Trust(ing)/(Faith)

The mystery Is the workings of the Spirit within us to become (a) Christ unto Salvation from the Flesh.
—Or the Fullness of Maturity(growth) of our Spiritual nature. -this changing the flesh to another state (of being)

Greetings

Luminary said: Except when it comes to the scriptures and how they are used

In 1 John 5:7-9 For there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one.
And there are three that bear witness on earth: the Spirit, the water, and the blood; and these three agree as one.
If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater; for this is the witness of God which He has testified of His Son.

In John 16:12-15, I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now.
However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truths; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come.
He will glorify Me, for He will take of what is Mine and declare it to you.
All things that the Father has are Mine. Therefore I said that He will take of Mine and declare it to you.

Then in 1 John 4:6, We are of God. He who knows God hears us; he who is not of God does not hear us.
By this, we know the spirit of truth and the spirit of error.

In John 1:17 For the law was given through Moses, but grace and truth came through Jesus the Christ
Note
That which is born of the flesh is flesh.
John 3:6

This is He who came by water and blood--Jesus Christ; not only by water but by water and blood.
And it is the Spirit who bears witness because the Spirit is truth.
1 John 5:6
And there are three that bear witness on earth: the Spirit, the water, and the blood; and these three agree as one.
1 John 5:8
But one of the soldiers pierced His side with a spear, and immediately blood and water came out.
John 19:34; See Zech 12: 10.

1 Tim 3:14-16 (KJV) These things write I unto thee, hoping to come unto thee shortly: But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth. And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness:

God was manifest in the flesh,
Justified in the Spirit, seen of angels,
Preached unto the Gentiles,
Believed on in the world,
Received up into glory.

 

[TheWordIsOne]

Would you mind repeating the question?

What is an Advanced Disciple?

 

[Luminary]

Greetings

In 1 John 5:7-9 For there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one.
And there are three that bear witness on earth: the Spirit, the water, and the blood; and these three agree as one.
If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater; for this is the witness of God which He has testified of His Son.

In John 16:12-15, I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now.
However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truths; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come.
He will glorify Me, for He will take of what is Mine and declare it to you.
All things that the Father has are Mine. Therefore I said that He will take of Mine and declare it to you.

Then in 1 John 4:6, We are of God. He who knows God hears us; he who is not of God does not hear us.
By this, we know the spirit of truth and the spirit of error.

In John 1:17 For the law was given through Moses, but grace and truth came through Jesus the Christ

Note
That which is born of the flesh is flesh.
John 3:6

This is He who came by water and blood--Jesus Christ; not only by water but by water and blood.
And it is the Spirit who bears witness because the Spirit is truth.
1 John 5:6
And there are three that bear witness on earth: the Spirit, the water, and the blood; and these three agree as one.
1 John 5:8
But one of the soldiers pierced His side with a spear, and immediately blood and water came out.
John 19:34; See Zech 12: 10.

1 Tim 3:14-16 (KJV) These things write I unto thee, hoping to come unto thee shortly: But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth. And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness:

God was manifest in the flesh,
Justified in the Spirit, seen of angels,
Preached unto the Gentiles,
Believed on in the world,
Received up into glory.

What is Heaven?
What is Earth?

What is the Witnessing of Heaven?
What is the agreement on Earth?

 

[Luminary]

What is an Advanced Disciple?

One who does the things of Jesus and even greater.

 

[TheWordIsOne]

What is Heaven?
What is Earth?

What is the Witnessing of Heaven?
What is the agreement on Earth?

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