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Translate الله to English

LifeinJesus

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Muslims say that الله is the name of God but when you translate it (Arabic to English) the result that comes up is God. So it's a title.

So what is God's name? YHWH? When we translate Yahweh from Hebrew (יהוה‎) to English. We get Jehovah.

So is Jehovah the name of God? Or was the real name known only to the people of Israel thousands of years ago and then forgotten over time during their worship of false gods? By the time they remembered God, they may have used just His title "God is Israel" and maybe Jehovah is just made from Adonai which means "My Lord" which may have stemmed from "The Lord - God of Israel".

No one knows how YHWH is pronounced and Yahweh means God, so it cannot be His name.
 
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Hello, translates as baa baa!

Yes, LifeinJesus, the old testament did use YHWH as the name of God. I think it appears in Exodus 3. I am not sure where you got Jehovah from. Perhaps Yahweh may be a better way of pronouncing it in the Queen's language. But that requires the insertion of vowels?

We do also know that Jesus is in fact whom YHWH is.

Baa,baa,baa.
 
If you read, YHWH (יהוה) doesn't translate to Yahweh when you translate it from Hebrew to English. You get Jehovah. I think the Lord's real name is lost to us. Some say Jehovah formed from JHWH in latin although some say it was around before latin language existed.
 
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God only put one name for us to call HIM!
abba Father !


Rom 8:15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.

Gal 4:6 And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.

Our LORD JESUS, is our perfect example!
Mar 14:36 And he said, Abba, Father, all things are possible unto thee; take away this cup from me: nevertheless not what I will, but what thou wilt.
 
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Muslims say that الله is the name of God but when you translate it (Arabic to English) the result that comes up is God. So it's a title.

So what is God's name? YHWH? When we translate Yahweh from Hebrew (יהוה‎) to English. We get Jehovah.

So is Jehovah the name of God? Or was the real name known only to the people of Israel thousands of years ago and then forgotten over time during their worship of false gods? By the time they remembered God, they may have used just His title "God is Israel" and maybe Jehovah is just made from Adonai which means "My Lord" which may have stemmed from "The Lord - God of Israel".

No one knows how YHWH is pronounced and Yahweh means God, so it cannot be His name.

Ancient written Hebrew had no vowels, only consonants, with no vowels being used until the second half of the first millennium of the Common Era. Thus, all personal names were without any vowels, and the reader had to supply the vowel sounds. For example, YHWH is often rendered as “Yahweh” (sometimes “Jahveh”) and is simply an attempt to express God’s name in a form nearer to the original Hebrew. God’s name in the older Hebrew manuscripts is shown as יהוה (YHWH or JHVH), and Bible commentators often refer to these characters as the “Tetragrammaton,” meaning “four letters.”

Down through the centuries, the correct pronunciation of the divine name in Hebrew has been lost. Hence, it is uncertain what vowels should be used to fill in the name. By combining vowel signs of the two Hebrew words A·do·nay´ (Lord) and El·o·him´ (God) with the Tetragrammaton, the pronunciation Ye·ho·wah´ was formed. Eventually, in a Latinized form, this became “Jehovah.” Nevertheless, many Hebrew scholars say that “Yahweh” is more correct. But Rudolph Kittel, editor of Biblia Hebraica, vowelizes the Hebrew tetragram as “Yehwah,” in all his editions.

The edition of the Hebrew text by C. D. Ginsburg (Massoretico-Critical Text of the Hebrew Bible, London, 1926.) vowel-points YHWH to read Yeho·wah´. The text located in the former U.S.S.R.(now Russia), namely, the Codex Leningrad B 19A, used for Biblia Hebraica Stuttgartensia (BHS), vowel-points the Tetragrammaton to read Yehwah´, Yehwih´ and a number of times Yeho·wah´, as in Genesis 3:14. While many translators favor the pronunciation “Yahweh,” many Bibles continue to use the form “Jehovah” because of people’s familiarity with it for centuries. Moreover, it preserves, equally with other forms, the four letters of the divine name, YHWH or JHVH.

The practice of substituting titles for the divine name that developed among the Jews was applied in later copies of the Greek Septuagint, the Latin Vulgate, and many other translations, ancient and modern. Therefore, A Greek-English Lexicon, by Liddell and Scott (LS), p. 1013, states: “ο Κύριος,=Hebr. Yahweh, LXX Ge. 11.5, al.”

Also, the Greek Lexicon of the Roman and Byzantine Periods, by E. A. Sophocles, Cambridge, U.S.A., and Leipzig, 1914, p. 699, says under κύριος (Ky´ri·os): “Lord, the representative of יהוה. Sept. passim [scattered throughout].”

Moreover, Dictionnaire de la Bible, by F. Vigouroux, Paris, 1926, col. 223, says that “the Septuagint and the Vulgate contain Κύριος and Dominus, ‘Lord,’ where the original contains Jehovah.” Regarding the divine name, A Compendious Syriac Dictionary, edited by J. Payne Smith, Oxford, 1979 reprint, p. 298, says that Mar·ya’ “in the [Syriac] Pesh ita Version of the O. T. represents the Tetragrammaton.”

Jehovah’s name was first restored to the English Bible by William Tyndale. In 1530 he published a translation of the first five books of the Bible into English. He included Jehovah’s name once, in Exodus 6:3. In a note in this edition Tyndale wrote: “Iehovah is God’s name . . . Moreover, as oft as thou seist LORD in great letters (except there be any error in the printing) it is in Hebrew Iehovah.”

From this the practice arose among translators to use Jehovah’s name in just a few places, but to write “LORD” or “GOD” in most places where the Tetragrammaton occurs in Hebrew. This practice was adopted by the translators of the King James Version in 1611, where Jehovah’s name occurs only four times, namely, in Exodus 6:3; Psalms 83:18; Isaiah 12:2 and 26:4.

Further, Theological Wordbook of the Old Testament, Vol. 1, Chicago (1980), p. 13, says: “To avoid the risk of taking God’s name (YHWH) in vain, devout Jews began to substitute the word ’ǎdōnā(y) for the proper name itself. Although the Masoretes left the four original consonants in the text, they added the vowels ē (in place of ǎ for other reasons) and ā to remind the reader to pronounce ’ǎdōnā(y) regardless of the consonants. This feature occurs more than six thousand times in the Hebrew Bible. Most translations use all capital letters to make the title ‘LORD.’ Exceptions are the ASV [American Standard Version] and New World Translation which use ‘Jehovah,’ Amplified which uses ‘Lord,’ and JB [The Jerusalem Bible] which uses ‘Yahweh.’ . . . In those places where ’ǎdōnā(y) yhwh occurs the latter word is pointed with the vowels from ’ēlōhim, and the English renderings such as ‘Lord GOD’ arose (e.g. Amos 7:1).”

The greatest indignity that modern translators render to the Divine Author of the Holy Scriptures is the removal or the concealing of his peculiar personal name. Actually his name occurs in the Hebrew text 6,828 times as יהוה (YHWH or JHVH), generally referred to as the Tetragrammaton (literally meaning “having four letters”).

By using the name “Jehovah,” some Bibles, such as the American Standard Version and the New World Translation, have held closely to the original-language texts and have not followed the practice of substituting titles such as “Lord,” “the Lord,” “Adonai” or “God” for the divine name, the Tetragrammaton.

The translation committee of the American Standard Version of 1901 stated: “The American Revisers, after a careful consideration, were brought to the unanimous conviction that a Jewish superstition, which regarded the Divine Name as too sacred to be uttered, ought no longer to dominate in the English or any other version of the Old Testament, as it fortunately does not in the numerous versions made by modern missionaries. . . . This personal name [Jehovah], with its wealth of sacred associations, is now restored to the place in the sacred text to which it has an unquestionable claim.”—AS preface, p. iv.
 
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