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LostButTrying

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This world seems very different from biblical times. Interpreting biblical guidance as it applies now is important, and getting guidance directly from God/Jesus/Holy Spirit.
I was listening to the radio this morning and they were talking about farming using genetically modified crops. It seems we are only at the beginning of what the scientists think they could achieve. Maybe this could help a lot of people, but some are nervous that it could create new problems or that it just feels wrong to circumvent natural processes. Perhaps we will genetically modify human embryos too?

Is there something in the Bible that really applies to this situation?
Should we meddle? Or is meddling part of God's plan?
 
That is a great question.
It has been proven that genetically modified foods cause problems for many people. Food where animals have been given steroids so they will grow bigger.
This causes young girls who frequently eat these foods to menstruate earlier than normal. Boys to produce ***** earlier than normal.
...and by some accounts, it ages people earlier than normal. There have been many stories of athletes who used steroids to make them bigger and stronger
who are now prematurely aged and disabled.

This seems to work in reverse also. Many people don't want to drink milk or eat gluten. It has been found these people have weaker bones and lower
red blood cell production. I'm not sure all of the health pro's and con's have been found out yet.

I don't know if I could tie a specific Bible verse to this, but it could be an interesting study. Thanks for the question.
 
Scientist in many ways become, man playing God.

Some things are certainly good, or start of good, but like so many things in life the pendulum can and does go to far the other way.

Processed foods, fast food, is not good for us, but so many have been brought up on them.

I do not have milk, I have to have gluten free, but that is what doctors start you on when there are other issues. Gluten can easily be checked by a blood sample, it has been so since the 1970's, but many people are having other issues me for one. I have had gluten free, I have followed a low fodmap diet to the letter, selected foods, each weighed, checking every label on foods for additives used that could be harmful, onion, garlic, is in so many things, then there are sweeteners in foods, pear and apricot juices commonly used and can cause issues. Monash University are world leaders in the low fodmap diets, they were the first to find out the things that cause issues, Kings College in the UK is catching up and other parts of the world also. It is a complicated diet, and doesn't necessarily solve the issues experienced but reduces the issues for a person.

It is thought that foods we eat in the past, especially processed foods are what is causing the issues people experience now.

Science is good, but all to often they go to far, things are changed, laws are changed, yet the small writing of what is in foods is to small, unclear and so often not read unless we have an illness or allergy.

I am not sure of a specific scripture, but we are to work the land for food to live, working the land up until 100 years ago was having a portion of land, at home or an allotment, where people would plant, work the land, and eat the products grown.

It is factories and mass production that has changed how food is grown, processed and sold.
 
I see it part of the end times. Honey bees disappearing, frogs are diminishing too, and then the Banana crops dying from fungus. I believe weed killing pesticides are part of the problem too. I'm just waiting for Jesus now.


Many miss the point regarding the end times, they tend to look for what will happen in the Tribulation Period or Great Tribulation Period.

When we see wars and rumours of wars, increase in earth quakes and pestilences. When we see hardening of hearts, children being disobedient to the parents, When we see raging waters and famine, men going with men and women with women etc, many shrug these off as always happened.

It is true with many, there have always been wars, but now we never stop hearing of them and of course the rumours of wars. There is definitely an hardening of hearts, children are disobedient to their parents, respect and politeness have gone out of the window, all the other things are so clear before our eyes.

But there are two very important parts many miss, one was the fulfilment of prophesy on 15 May 1948 when Israel became a state again. Everything has got worse since then, slowly at first, free sex, free speech etc in the 1960's, that was also when kids started to become unruly. The second point is what Jesus said, these will be like birth pangs, ask a woman what birth pangs are like, they start slowly and gradually as a rule, but then continue to increase and become more extreme.

This is exactly what we are seeing, but the end is not yet, these are the birth pangs, they are getting worse, they will get worse, time is running out fast. These signs are not just warnings to notice them, be aware, they are signs to be ready. They are also signs to pray, pray, pray for the lost souls in the world. The harvest is ready but the workers are few.

Keep watch my friend Jesus is coming soon.
 
I see it part of the end times. Honey bees disappearing, frogs are diminishing too, and then the Banana crops dying from fungus. I believe weed killing pesticides are part of the problem too. I'm just waiting for Jesus now.

I have waited for Thy salvation, O LORD.
Genesis 49:18

Wait on the LORD: be of good courage, and He shall strengthen thine heart: wait, I say, on the LORD.

Psalm 27:14

Rest in the LORD, and wait patiently for Him: fret not thyself because of him who prospereth in his way, because of the man who bringeth wicked devices to pass.
For evildoers shall be cut off: but those that wait upon the LORD, they shall inherit the earth.

Psalm 37:7 and Psalm 37:9

I wait for the LORD, my soul doth wait, and in His word do I hope.
Psalm 130:5

The LORD is good unto them that wait for Him, to the soul that seeketh Him. It is good that a man should both hope and quietly wait for the salvation of the LORD.
Lamentations 3:25-26

I have waited for Thy salvation, O LORD.
Genesis 49:18
 
Scientist in many ways become, man playing God.

Some things are certainly good, or start of good, but like so many things in life the pendulum can and does go to far the other way.

Processed foods, fast food, is not good for us, but so many have been brought up on them.

I do not have milk, I have to have gluten free, but that is what doctors start you on when there are other issues. Gluten can easily be checked by a blood sample, it has been so since the 1970's, but many people are having other issues me for one. I have had gluten free, I have followed a low fodmap diet to the letter, selected foods, each weighed, checking every label on foods for additives used that could be harmful, onion, garlic, is in so many things, then there are sweeteners in foods, pear and apricot juices commonly used and can cause issues. Monash University are world leaders in the low fodmap diets, they were the first to find out the things that cause issues, Kings College in the UK is catching up and other parts of the world also. It is a complicated diet, and doesn't necessarily solve the issues experienced but reduces the issues for a person.

It is thought that foods we eat in the past, especially processed foods are what is causing the issues people experience now.

Science is good, but all to often they go to far, things are changed, laws are changed, yet the small writing of what is in foods is to small, unclear and so often not read unless we have an illness or allergy.

I am not sure of a specific scripture, but we are to work the land for food to live, working the land up until 100 years ago was having a portion of land, at home or an allotment, where people would plant, work the land, and eat the products grown.

It is factories and mass production that has changed how food is grown, processed and sold.


I just Googled 'low fodmap diets -- people with IBS do better on that diet.

One of my nieces was found to have a digestive problem that required gluten-free diet when she was little. Lots of people are sensitive to gluten -- ingredients in food has to be checked carefully. Same kind of thing with diabetics / diet , blood- sugar levels. And a person's insides Will feel better when the gluten is taken away.

As we get older, we find that things we Used to like don't like us any longer. Or just less of those foods.
 
I just Googled 'low fodmap diets -- people with IBS do better on that diet.

One of my nieces was found to have a digestive problem that required gluten-free diet when she was little. Lots of people are sensitive to gluten -- ingredients in food has to be checked carefully. Same kind of thing with diabetics / diet , blood- sugar levels. And a person's insides Will feel better when the gluten is taken away.

As we get older, we find that things we Used to like don't like us any longer. Or just less of those foods.

It is more common than people realise Sue.

As for Gluten, this was found in the 1970, 1975 I think, it can easily be checked by a blood test, then the diet is adjusted to eat gluten free foods and foods without gluten free additives.

Within the last 10 years+ , Monash University in Australia found that fodmaps are an issue for many, they were first and are the world leaders. Most foods have a level of Fodmaps in them and vary considerably. I started on the elimination period 3 years ago, supposed to be a few weeks to find out what caused the issues, I am still on it and suffer greatly, I have had cameras every where possible, Fodmaps is definitely an issue but they do not know what else is causing problems. I struggle with it daily, severe at times, I feel my body is going to explode, then naturally it affects motions and become unstable and unpredictable.

Some of the main items that cause issues are onions, garlic, pear and apricot juices, if you read the small print on the labels of foods they are used as additives to flavour and sweeten. But there are lots, lots more, and supermarkets are not making it easy. Free from and other brands lead people to think woods are 'Free From' but they are free from this or that but rarely all problem items that can cause issues for people experiencing such problems.

Many say eat fruit it is good for you, I even got a juicer, healthy food. Monash have found having multiple fruits that seem ok, together they become high in fodmaps, over the recommended level, so following their guidance in the early stages I had raspberries, blueberrys and a banana, the recommended amount of each was 4 raspberries, 10 blueberries and a banana, the quantities were so low, especially raspberries it wasn't worth bothering. But they also confirmed to me that fruit must be eaten one at a time and with 3-4 hour gap between each!

It is a nightmare, I can have a cup of red grapes but cannot have green ones. Two weeks ago, not thinking I had a couple of glasses of white wine, my insides were screwed up. Every food has to me according to there recommendations for low-fodmaps, and every label is checked so that there are no additives that can cause issues.

One food that can cause issue eaten in error can make things worse and the issues peak for about 3 days. It takes 2-3 days for food to go through a normal body. Does than mean I have not got a normal body? Don't go down that road. LOL

I believe a lot of issues today are because of the food we eat, processed food, fast food, modified food, etc. I read some where part of the diet for cattle is made from bones of dead cattle, ground down, to me these things seem to be asking for trouble, but scientists say, the level allowed is safe we have done tests! It carries on until an issue raises a number of years down the line.

Sorry if I have gone on a little, I just thought it would give insight to someone who may be doesn't know about fodmaps and low fodmap diets. Monash University have an excellent App, it is very cheap, for anyone with issues it is worth having, it is an eye opener. Many are benefiting from a low-fodmap diet, sadly for me there are other issues inside, it is not just fodmaps.
 
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