There will be no "Rapture" today or tomorrow, thus saith the Lord Jesus Christ

[Alley Oop]

2 Peter 3​

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3 Dear friends, I am writing you now this second letter; and in both letters I am trying to arouse you to wholesome thinking by means of reminders; 2 so that you will keep in mind the predictions of the holy prophets and the command given by the Lord and Deliverer through your emissaries.

3 First, understand this: during the Last Days, scoffers will come, following their own desires 4 and asking, “Where is this promised ‘coming’ of his? For our fathers have died, and everything goes on just as it has since the beginning of creation.” 5 But, wanting so much to be right about this, they overlook the fact that it was by God’s Word that long ago there were heavens, and there was land which arose out of water and existed between the waters, 6 and that by means of these things the world of that time was flooded with water and destroyed. 7 It is by that same Word that the present heavens and earth, having been preserved, are being kept for fire until the Day of Judgment, when ungodly people will be destroyed.

8 Moreover, dear friends, do not ignore this: with the Lord, one day is like a thousand years and a thousand years like one day[a] 9 The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some people think of slowness; on the contrary, he is patient with you; for it is not his purpose that anyone should be destroyed, but that everyone should turn from his sins. 10 However, the Day of the Lord will come “like a thief.” On that Day the heavens will disappear with a roar, the elements will melt and disintegrate, and the earth and everything in it will be burned up.

I was wondering, in their lack of discernment, who would broach II Peter 3:3, first.

You simply, like the masses, don't understand the coming of the Lord.
You follow those who say ,"lo there and lo there" as in Luke 17:21-23.

Next . .

 

[Christ4Ever]

And this thread will be true throughout the life of this website, unless the admin can't handle it.

Dear Member Alley Oop,
It's not always about whether an Admin can handle it or not that can get a thread closed, or a member banned.
I just started on reviewing this thread, so we'll see if your words hold prophetic.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
Moderator
Nick
\o/
<><

 

[Alley Oop]

Dear Member Alley Oop,
It's not always about whether an Admin can handle it or not that can get a thread closed, or a member banned.
I just started on reviewing this thread, so we'll see if your words hold prophetic.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
Moderator
Nick
\o/
<><

The first 48 hours of it, will be fulfilled tomorrow at 12:39 pm central. Then we can refresh for the next 48 and so on . .

 

[Admon Mikha'el]

I was wondering, in their lack of discernment, who would broach II Peter 3:3, first.

You simply, like the masses, don't understand the coming of the Lord.
You follow those who say ,"lo there and lo there" as in Luke 17:21-23.

Next . .

You need Jesus in your life..desperately

 

[Christ4Ever]

it's too easy to expose all types of demonic doctrines on this site, but I'd be casting pearls before swine. so I just toy with people on a superficial level, they get nervous when the milk gets a little warm.

Dear Alley Oop,
Take care. You have been given one warning already.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
Moderator
Nick
\o/
<><

 

[Alley Oop]

Dear Alley Oop,
Take care. You have been given one warning already.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
Moderator
Nick
\o/
<><

no love lost

 

[Alley Oop]

You need Jesus in your life..desperately

it's not easy having your carnal-minded doctrines burned up by the Word of the Spirit is it?
always looking for ad hominem and non sequiturs to comfort you.

 

[B-A-C]

I was saying the same thing 30 years ago.

I Corinthians 2: 14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

Sorry to hear you've lost your way.

Luke 17:20; Now having been questioned by the Pharisees as to when the kingdom of God was coming, He answered them and said, "The kingdom of God is not coming with signs to be observed;
Luke 17:21; nor will they say, 'Look, here it is!' or, 'There it is!' For behold, the kingdom of God is in your midst."

Jesus is talking to the Pharisees in the verses above, He is talking to the disciples in the verses below.

Luke 17:22; And He said to the disciples, "The days will come when you will long to see one of the days of the Son of Man, and you will not see it.
Luke 17:23; "They will say to you, 'Look there! Look here!' Do not go away, and do not run after them.
Luke 17:24; "For just like the lightning, when it flashes out of one part of the sky, shines to the other part of the sky, so will the Son of Man be in His day.
Luke 17:25; "But first He must suffer many things and be rejected by this generation.
Luke 17:26; "And just as it happened in the days of Noah, so it will be also in the days of the Son of Man:
Luke 17:27; they were eating, they were drinking, they were marrying, they were being given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, and the flood came and destroyed them all.
Luke 17:28; "It was the same as happened in the days of Lot: they were eating, they were drinking, they were buying, they were selling, they were planting, they were building;
Luke 17:29; but on the day that Lot went out from Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven and destroyed them all.
Luke 17:30; "It will be just the same on the day that the Son of Man is revealed.

Luke 17:34; "I tell you, on that night there will be two in one bed; one will be taken and the other will be left.
Luke 17:35; "There will be two women grinding at the same place; one will be taken and the other will be left.
Luke 17:36; ["Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other will be left."]

Rev 1:7; BEHOLD, HE IS COMING WITH THE CLOUDS, and every eye will see Him, even those who pierced Him; and all the tribes of the earth will mourn over Him. So it is to be. Amen.

 

[B-A-C]

no love lost

I guess you can't lose what you don't have.

John 13:35; "By this all men will know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another."

1Jn 4:20; If someone says, "I love God," and hates his brother, he is a liar; for the one who does not love his brother whom he has seen, cannot love God whom he has not seen.

 

[GodB4Us]

Elijah = John the Baptist.
It's right there in your own quote of Matthew 17.
Cool stuff,eh?
You're suffering from cognitive dissonance.

Along with...

John said he was not Elijah.
Jesus said he was Elijah.
I believe Jesus.

Matthew 11: 13-15
13 For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John.

14 And if ye will receive it (@GodB4Us wont receive it), this is Elias, which was for to come.

15 He that hath ears to hear, let him hear (@GodB4Us does not have ears to hear).

@Samson2020 You also deny Matthew 11: 13-15 and Matthew 17:13. @GodB4Us is thankful for that, Eternal Damnationist's can't have Matthew 11: 13-15 or Matthew 17:13 in the Bible, it blows up their demonic theology.

How do you not know that you are the one not receiving it?

Ears to hear mean beyond what is being said, yes?

What if both are telling the truth but Jesus was referring to what Elias was prophesied to do which is to restore all things and so John was like Elias and how John suffered those things & even His disciples knew He was talking about John the Baptist and not Elias himself.

10 And his disciples asked him, saying, Why then say the scribes that Elias must first come? 11 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elias truly shall first come, and restore all things. 12 But I say unto you, That Elias is come already, and they knew him not, but have done unto him whatsoever they listed. Likewise shall also the Son of man suffer of them. 13 Then the disciples understood that he spake unto them of John the Baptist.

Jesus did say unto His disciples that Elias "truly" shall first come and restore all things as if the true Elias had not come yet, but and that word "but" Elias is come already and they knew him not as Elias and by citing how John the Baptist had suffered is why His disciples knew He was actually talking about John the Baptist and not the real Elias that is still to come.

 

[Alley Oop]

Along with...



How do you not know that you are the one not receiving it?

Ears to hear mean beyond what is being said, yes?

What if both are telling the truth but Jesus was referring to what Elias was prophesied to do which is to restore all things and so John was like Elias and how John suffered those things & even His disciples knew He was talking about John the Baptist and not Elias himself.

10 And his disciples asked him, saying, Why then say the scribes that Elias must first come? 11 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elias truly shall first come, and restore all things. 12 But I say unto you, That Elias is come already, and they knew him not, but have done unto him whatsoever they listed. Likewise shall also the Son of man suffer of them. 13 Then the disciples understood that he spake unto them of John the Baptist.

Jesus did say unto His disciples that Elias "truly" shall first come and restore all things as if the true Elias had not come yet, but and that word "but" Elias is come already and they knew him not as Elias and by citing how John the Baptist had suffered is why His disciples knew He was actually talking about John the Baptist and not the real Elias that is still to come.

i see your consternation.

Matthew 11:14 is real simple and clear - "IF you will receive it, this is Elias who was to come".

Anyway, back to no third dimensional 'Rapture' today or tomorrrow . .

 

[PloughBoy]

Very important common words:

“transliterated”
“Translations”
“Caught up”
“Harpazo””
“Caught away”
“Greek thought”
“Greek expression”
“Snatch away”
“Seize upon”
“Spoil”
“taken to oneself”
Mmmm, a lexicon.

WOW, I wonder a Greek lexicon over “Vines dictionary of New Testament Words Exhausted” and in the other hand, “The Englishman Greek Concordance” I wonder what would “Oxford” Prefer.

Mmm wondering what would The Greek Scholar prefer.

Sure wouldn’t be a Greek “Lexicon” that for Sam sure! Concerning The Biblical Greek text!

“is There a book called: “Greek Lexicons are for Dummies”?

Does any body know?
Zip-a-dee-doo-dah
Zip-a-Dee-day-my oh- my- what a wonderful day”. The Sun is shining,,ff.

 

[joestue]

The spirit of a person is the qualities and descriptors of a person, it is not a "material substance" to be reincarnated.

When God puts a new spirit in you at salvation, the old one is not thrown away. Because it isnt a "thing" it's a descriptor. People have said I remind them of the prophet Jeremiah for example, but I am not him.

 

[GodB4Us]

Very important common words:

“transliterated”
“Translations”
“Caught up”
“Harpazo””
“Caught away”
“Greek thought”
“Greek expression”
“Snatch away”
“Seize upon”
“Spoil”
“taken to oneself”
Mmmm, a lexicon.

WOW, I wonder a Greek lexicon over “Vines dictionary of New Testament Words Exhausted” and in the other hand, “The Englishman Greek Concordance” I wonder what would “Oxford” Prefer.

Mmm wondering what would The Greek Scholar prefer.

Sure wouldn’t be a Greek “Lexicon” that for Sam sure! Concerning The Biblical Greek text!

“is There a book called: “Greek Lexicons are for Dummies”?

Does any body know?
Zip-a-dee-doo-dah
Zip-a-Dee-day-my oh- my- what a wonderful day”. The Sun is shining,,ff.

Which is why we are taught by the Lord Jesus Christ through the Holy Spirit in us as wisdom comes from the Lord for why we should prave everything coming to us from the churches, the pastors, favorite Christian leaders and even Strong's Concordance.

Textus Receptus Greek Text King James Bible With Strong;s Dictionary

Wisdom is needed here to discern how to apply the Greek word "pneuma" as spirit in how spirit is used in the verse because it has different definitions for why it does not always refer to the Holy Spirit.

The Greek words "pneuma" is defined as "from pnew - pneo 4154; a current of air, i.e. breath (blast) or a breeze; by analogy or figuratively, a spirit, i.e. (human) the rational soul, (by implication) vital principle, mental disposition, etc., or (superhuman) an angel, demon, or (divine) God, Christ's spirit, the Holy Spirit:--ghost, life, spirit(-ual, -ually), mind. Compare yuch - psuche 5590."

"a current of air; breath, blast, or a breeze" by analogy or figuratively

"a spirit, i.e. (human) the rational soul

"(by implication) vital principle, mental disposition, etc."

"(superhuman) an angel, demon, or (divine) God"

"the Holy Spirit "

"ghost, life, spirit,(-ual, & -ually ) mind"

Some translators had capitalized spirit as referring to the Holy Spirit when they should not have in John 6:63 & 2 Corinthians 3:6 and that is why the ecumenical Nicene creed of 381 A.D. is wrong in assigning the Spirit as the Giver of Life when the Holy Spirit would defer all credit and glory to the Son as the Giver of Life for that is what scripture points seeker to go to for life per John 5:39-40 since Jesus is the bread of life that gives life to the world.

John 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. 40 And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.

John 6:30 They said therefore unto him, What sign shewest thou then, that we may see, and believe thee? what dost thou work? 31 Our fathers did eat manna in the desert; as it is written, He gave them bread from heaven to eat. 32 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Moses gave you not that bread from heaven; but my Father giveth you the true bread from heaven. 33 For the bread of God is he which cometh down from heaven, and giveth life unto the world. 34 Then said they unto him, Lord, evermore give us this bread. 35 And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst. 36 But I said unto you, That ye also have seen me, and believe not.

John 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. 14 He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you. 15 All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you.

1 John 2:20 But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things. 21 I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth....

1 John 2:26 These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you. 27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him. 28 And now, little children, abide in him; that, when he shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before him at his coming.

Thank you for sharing. may the Lord Jesus Christ as our Good shepherd and Friend remind us Who we are to go to in living that reconciled relationship with God the Father by and that is by the only way of the Son, the Bridegroom.

 

[PloughBoy]

Which is why we are taught by the Lord Jesus Christ through the Holy Spirit in us as wisdom comes from the Lord for why we should prave everything coming to us from the churches, the pastors, favorite Christian leaders and even Strong's Concordance.

Wisdom is needed here to discern how to apply the Greek word "pneuma" as spirit in how spirit is used in the verse because it has different definitions for why it does not always refer to the Holy Spirit.

The Greek words "pneuma" is defined as "from pnew - pneo 4154; a current of air, i.e. breath (blast) or a breeze; by analogy or figuratively, a spirit, i.e. (human) the rational soul, (by implication) vital principle, mental disposition, etc., or (superhuman) an angel, demon, or (divine) God, Christ's spirit, the Holy Spirit:--ghost, life, spirit(-ual, -ually), mind. Compare yuch - psuche 5590."

"a current of air; breath, blast, or a breeze" by analogy or figuratively

"a spirit, i.e. (human) the rational soul

"(by implication) vital principle, mental disposition, etc."

"(superhuman) an angel, demon, or (divine) God"

"the Holy Spirit "

"ghost, life, spirit,(-ual, & -ually ) mind"

Some translators had capitalized spirit as referring to the Holy Spirit when they should not have in John 6:63 & 2 Corinthians 3:6 and that is why the ecumenical Nicene creed of 381 A.D. is wrong in assigning the Spirit as the Giver of Life when the Holy Spirit would defer all credit and glory to the Son as the Giver of Life for that is what scripture points seeker to go to for life per John 5:39-40 since Jesus is the bread of life that gives life to the world.

John 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. 40 And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.

John 6:30 They said therefore unto him, What sign shewest thou then, that we may see, and believe thee? what dost thou work? 31 Our fathers did eat manna in the desert; as it is written, He gave them bread from heaven to eat. 32 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Moses gave you not that bread from heaven; but my Father giveth you the true bread from heaven. 33 For the bread of God is he which cometh down from heaven, and giveth life unto the world. 34 Then said they unto him, Lord, evermore give us this bread. 35 And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst. 36 But I said unto you, That ye also have seen me, and believe not.

John 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. 14 He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you. 15 All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you.

1 John 2:20 But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things. 21 I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth....

1 John 2:26 These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you. 27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him. 28 And now, little children, abide in him; that, when he shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before him at his coming.

Thank you for sharing. may the Lord Jesus Christ as our Good shepherd and Friend remind us Who we are to go to in living that reconciled relationship with God the Father by and that is by the only way of the Son, the Bridegroom.

Now, if one would think, who created “Words” and “The Guttenberg”, and English and Greek languages, and Grammar and oh, yes The “Complexity” of The Hebrew language with all it’s Elusive thought minded Characteristics. In which I will not discuss. For a very Good reason!

Then there was “Paul” Highly Educated, if I can remember from Bible kindergarten, notice I did not say church kindergarten but “Bible kindergarten” that he spoke about 6-7 different languages and a “Expert” above all “Pharisees” and “Roman” by brith. then Their also was “Aurelius Augustine”, then their was “Thomas Aquinas”, then came “Tyndale” spoke & wrote 8 different languages as they where his native language which included, “Hebrew & Greek”, and some of the very words you “Quote” he coined those words and they are not in The Original Copied Manuscript, because there are no such words in the English language could convey The thought of The Hebrew or The Greek text of “Holy Scripture”. [ then we have “John Calvin” better known as “THE” pronounced. “THEE” Theologian”! And as we move on down “The King’s Highway” we Approach, one who’s name is “Jonathan Edwards”, who is “The Presenter” of a sermon “Entitled”;

“Sinners in the hands of an angry God”

PS. And “Peter” was so bright he wrote two letters to “Young “Timothy” and most likely he didn’t write it, if a can remember it has been a long time since kindergarten,he might have had a “amanuenus”.

“Hello”
Am I getting through, “Houston”?

New King James Version
“Therefore behold, I am against the prophets,” says the LORD, “who steal My words every one from his neighbor.

New American Standard Bible
Therefore behold, I am against the prophets,” declares the LORD, “who steal My words from each other.

Therefore “plagiarism” has become a favorite art and Regurgitation have become a favorite food, of the Modern day Christian’s Appetite.