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Theology versus Scriptures

EphremHagos

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Theology-based GOSPEL STORY of "the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus" (in that order) is a significant deviation from his divine nature and authority.

The Jesus of theology is a mismatch to the CREATION STORY of "life-giving breath" complete with its "tree of life", and to the other SIGNATURE STORIES, e.g., the self-sufficient "flame coming from the middle of a bush on fire but not burning up" with multiplying effect!

(Gen. 2: 7-9; Ex. 3: 1-15; Matt. 17: 1-13; 27: 50-56)
 
The life giving breath Is much different than Jesus had and We get at salvation ! all creature on earth gget the breath of life ! They all have life1 Mankind was different because they have a spirit soul and body ! Jesus had the divine nature , which our Spirit also gets at our New birth ! adam and eve did not have this divine nature , Nor do the angels ! They can sin ! We our new creature [New spirit being ] cannot sin 1 Nor would our new Creature ever sin !
Lots do not understand , nor teach this truth !
Our flesh still has the old nature and can and will sin !

Jesus could not sin ! He was tempted and tried and proved He could not sin !

Being tempted does not make you a sinner ! It just a thought we reject !


2Pe_1:4 Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.
It Only our Spirit that has The nature of our LORD JESUS CHRIST after Salvation [the new birth]
We still dwell a short time in the same old sin filled bodies !

Jesus of course was perfect in all ways ! He was born into a perfect sinless body !

We are born into this world in a sin natured body ! Which our spirit is also sin filled of coiurse ! That why We Must be Born -Again !

We are only part of GOD family and household and His holy child after the New Birth ! The flesh part and mind is not changed !

Adam and eve never had what God gives the few willing now! Many cannot see the differance between our unseen spirit and our seen flesh ?
2Co_4:16 For which cause we faint not; but though our outward man perish, yet the inward man is renewed day by day.
Of course the in ward man He talking about is only after we are reborn [Born -Again ] made the new creature !

1Pe_3:4 But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price.
The hidden man of the heart is the unseen man , that is a spirit being , like our Father God of course!
 
There is an amazing alternative.

A single divine signature
can be traced in the Scriptures starting in Genesis, a.k.a., "life-giving breath", passing through various stages and coming back to "Paradise" at Christ's death on the cross, a.k.a., "life-giving Spirit".
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The full account is found in the Gospel; and recapitulated by Jesus himself as follows (Luke 24: 44-49). Christian theology and the churches, with their gospel of pie-in-the-sky have completely corrupted "the Good News from the Glorious and Blessed God", a.k.a., the Gospel of of Eternal Life today.
1. BACKGROUND (the Old Testament)
2. PRELUDE in the Incarnation (in Israel) and
3. FINALE in "the faithful witness, the first-born from the dead" with multiplying effects (for all nations).

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The life giving breath Is much different than Jesus had and We get at salvation ! all creature on earth gget the breath of life ! They all have life1 Mankind was different because they have a spirit soul and body ! Jesus had the divine nature , which our Spirit also gets at our New birth ! adam and eve did not have this divine nature , Nor do the angels ! They can sin ! We our new creature [New spirit being ] cannot sin 1 Nor would our new Creature ever sin !
Lots do not understand , nor teach this truth !
Our flesh still has the old nature and can and will sin !

Jesus could not sin ! He was tempted and tried and proved He could not sin !

Being tempted does not make you a sinner ! It just a thought we reject !


2Pe_1:4 Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.
It Only our Spirit that has The nature of our LORD JESUS CHRIST after Salvation [the new birth]
We still dwell a short time in the same old sin filled bodies !

Jesus of course was perfect in all ways ! He was born into a perfect sinless body !

We are born into this world in a sin natured body ! Which our spirit is also sin filled of coiurse ! That why We Must be Born -Again !

We are only part of GOD family and household and His holy child after the New Birth ! The flesh part and mind is not changed !

Adam and eve never had what God gives the few willing now! Many cannot see the differance between our unseen spirit and our seen flesh ?
2Co_4:16 For which cause we faint not; but though our outward man perish, yet the inward man is renewed day by day.
Of course the in ward man He talking about is only after we are reborn [Born -Again ] made the new creature !

1Pe_3:4 But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price.
The hidden man of the heart is the unseen man , that is a spirit being , like our Father God of course!
 
From what I've seen of this I've come to believe that theology is mans attempt to explain God in a Worldly fashion ..mostly leaning to thier own understanding and in most cases missing the point of the scriptures in the process ,Theology is also the foundation for denomination ,,Gods word is what it is Gods word ! And the whole truth will not be seen until we face God in person ,,Until then I try to hold to the word as spoken and printed with out adding to it my own beliefs to the mix ...Rev
 
Thank you very much! I agree completely with what you say about theology.

However, "the whole truth" is exactly what is at stake, viz.: God's typical self-revelation in Christ's death on the cross, a.k.a., the seal of the "new covenant" , according to the Scriptures but not according to Christian theology and the teaching by the churches. As one Apostle wrote, "Now, God's home is with mankind! He will live them, and they shall be his people. God himself will be with them and he will be their God." (Rev. 21:3)

Although this is verbatim in the terms of the "new covenant" (Jer. 31:31-34), and fulfilled in Christ's death on the cross, a.k.a., the source of the Holy Spirit and all revelation (John 19: 30-37 with a lot of backup in teaching), theology has procrastinated the promise with one fanciful word, viz.: eschatology! No wonder, the world is coming to an era of post-Christianity!

From what I've seen of this I've come to believe that theology is mans attempt to explain God in a Worldly fashion ..mostly leaning to thier own understanding and in most cases missing the point of the scriptures in the process ,Theology is also the foundation for denomination ,,Gods word is what it is Gods word ! And the whole truth will not be seen until we face God in person ,,Until then I try to hold to the word as spoken and printed with out adding to it my own beliefs to the mix ...Rev
 
If you've read my prior posts you'll find I have and issues with what I call spiritual flies ..they are found buzzing around mans theologies and doctrines and create an annoying sound in the ears of man ..they distract from the base teachings in most cases ...we must as Christians and followers of Christ not allow the word to be watered down so as to appease or tickle the ears for the sake of numbers...We have been to quite for to long on this issue creating the many mis teachings that we see today .God needs us to stay out of the way and let His word be the healing balm and guide it should be to us as He intended it to be and when He says speak we should be doers and persueres of Gods Word and its true intent Salvation and redeeming of Mans sinful nature .John 3:16 tells us of a love so great that God sent His only son to die as a blameless and spotless sacrifice .so we could have fellowship with God almighty,at the resurrection He showed us we can have power over the death sin brings in our lives ,and his ascension unto heaven to prepare a place for us in Heaven....how can man improve on that word of hope ..? Rev
 
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What I love personally the most about the Bible is that it yields final authority to a Scripture-free self-revelation of God for all based on "life-giving Spirit" sealed in Christ's death on the cross. This is beyond any unaided understanding as well as corruption by either by supporter or by detractor. PTL!

(Jer. 31: 31-34; Luke 2: 23-35; Matt. 26: 26-29; 27: 50-56; 2 Cor. 3)



If you've read my prior posts you'll find I have and issues with what I call spiritual flies ..they are found buzzing around mans theologies and doctrines and create an annoying sound in the ears of man ..they distract from the base teachings in most cases ...we must as Christians and followers of Christ not allow the word to be watered down so as to appease or tickle the ears for the sake of numbers...We have been to quite for to long on this issue creating the many mis teachings that we see today .God needs us to stay out of the way and let His word be the healing balm and guide it should be to us as He intended it to be and when He says speak we should be doers and persueres of Gods Word and its true intent Salvation and redeeming of Mans sinful nature .John 3:16 tells us of a love so great that God sent His only son to die as a blameless and spotless sacrifice .so we could have fellowship with God almighty,at the resurrection He showed us we can have power over the death sin brings in our lives ,and his ascension unto heaven to prepare a place for us in Heaven....how can man improve on that word of hope ..? Rev
 
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