The Unteachable Christian: When Defending Your Position Matters More Than Truth

@NBTT

Dear AI, please give me a few examples that prove that a mature human being is generally capable of understanding the difference between good and evil and should therefore be held accountable for knowingly committing serious wrongdoing.

Examples​

1. Understanding suffering. A mature person can understand that deliberately torturing another human being causes severe pain and suffering and that inflicting such suffering without justification is wrong.

2. Understanding murder. A person can understand that deliberately taking an innocent person's life deprives them of their future and devastates their family.

3. Understanding cruelty. A person can distinguish between helping someone who is vulnerable and deliberately exploiting that person's vulnerability.

4. Understanding fairness. Humans can recognise that stealing another person's possessions for personal gain violates that person's rights and interests.

5. Understanding consent. A mature person can understand that forcing another person to do something against their will is morally different from obtaining their voluntary agreement.

6. Understanding betrayal.
A person can recognise that deliberately deceiving someone who trusts them is a breach of trust.

7. Understanding consequences. Adults can anticipate that their actions may injure others, destroy property, traumatise victims or deprive people of their freedom.

8. Understanding rules and obligations. People can learn laws and social rules, understand why they exist and recognise that deliberately breaking them can harm others.

9. Understanding intention. A mature person can distinguish between accidentally causing an injury and deliberately injuring someone. This demonstrates an ability to consider intention as well as outcome.

10. Understanding guilt and remorse. People often recognise that they have done something wrong, feel guilt about it, apologise and attempt to make amends.

11. Understanding concealment. Someone who hides evidence, fabricates an alibi or threatens a witness may demonstrate awareness that their conduct is condemned or punishable. This is relevant evidence of awareness, although concealment alone does not conclusively establish that the person understood the full moral wrongfulness of their conduct.

12. Understanding moral consistency. People often condemn an act when it is committed against them or their loved ones while recognising that the same principle applies when they are the ones tempted to commit it.

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These examples are based on results from these studies:

1. Aharoni, Sinnott-Armstrong and Kiehl (2014), “What’s Wrong? Moral Understanding in Psychopathic Offenders.
2. Pillay (2010), “Intellectually Disabled Rape Survivors’ Perceptions of Morality and Consequences of the Crime.”
3. Garcia-Molina and Rodríguez-Clavell (2023), “Moral Judgements Among Neurotypical Children, Autistic Children and Adults With Intellectual Disability.”
4. Hammond and Beail (2020), “The Relationship Between Cognitive Variables and Offending Behaviour in Adults With Intellectual Disabilities: A Systematic Review.”
5. Zalla, Barlassina, Buon and Leboyer (2011), “Moral Judgment in Adults With Autism Spectrum Disorders.”
6. Aharoni and colleagues' research on moral judgment in psychopathy.
 
Dear AI, please give me a few examples that prove that a mature human being is generally capable of understanding the difference between good and evil and should therefore be held accountable for knowingly committing serious wrongdoing.
We all have evidence of it. It all goes back to the garden brother. Even in knowing what they should not have done, they in pride choose to do what they had been commanded not to do. The sin in us since then would attribute all kinds of reasons to the why (mechanics of it), but as part of our DNA I do believe, we know by that the sin in us is evident even if we can't reason it or be aware of it through the man called Adam. I also believe that given humanity enough time, they will be able to find that "sin gene" if they were so inclined to believe in it.

No brother, God is good, all the time, and there is no darkness in Him. That He was able to create the possibility of evil, all the while keeping Himself separate from it does not mean that He must be in part so and is complicit to it. The thought of that is horrendous to the human intellect, especially as viewed in children, but so is the death of God on the Cross. For to have one forgiven, wiped away and not just covered as in previous temple sacrifices, required Him to limit His omniscience.

Yes, man is accountable, whether they want to accept it or not. It's like some like to say, must we acknowledge God in order for Him to exists? No, but we know there are fools in their hearts that would say so. :(

Dear brother, like wherever you go in this world, ignorance of the local laws is no excuse for not following them. lol

Just an observation to these exchanges you are having on this thread. :)

With the Love in Christ Jesus.
YBIC/Moderator
Nick
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Jesus is telling him that all the people at his dad's funeral are dead (all his family and friends). At that pre-resurrection moment I wouldn't call that the gospel yet but the good news was that the long expected messiah is here. Your false conclusion that Jesus is being "partial" against those "dead" family and friends falsely makes Jesus a monster to you.

I do not understand the infinite but by faith I believe that Jesus is able to not give those dead friends and family what we judge to be a fair shot yet still be perfectly good and just.
From the virtual bleachers: @NBTT , you just did the thing you falsely accused @KingJ of doing, so I copy/pasted what you omitted or more than likely refused to read(?):

There is a lot of truth to your post but it is also a case of moving the goal posts.
Four items jump out at me that need to be discussed.
1. We are created as highly intelligent beings Heb 2:7.
Isaiah 5:3–4 God asking people to judge His dealings.
2. Why incriminate God on the unknown?

This is what Calvinism does: “God is omniscient,” therefore He cannot help but be partial. It is lazy and heretical exegesis of Scripture.
I agree that we cannot fully grasp God, so let us stick 100% to what Scripture says. For example, there are 50 verses that clearly state that He is IMPARTIAL.
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Calvinism = We cannot grasp God.....so lets assume the absolute worst about Him and paint Him as a monster.

3. God is who scripture says He is.
He is omniscient AND good AND impartial all at the same time.

4. There is nothing evil in Jesus saying what He did in Luke 9:60.
Jesus was emphasizing the urgency of preaching the gospel. How was it evil? I don't follow...
There is not a single verse or passage in scripture that incriminates God.
I think you missed something not only important, but essential here. That's okay, that's what Christian sites like these are for.

Here is another one:
Douay-Rheims (1582/1609), Saint John 11:15-16 "Jesus said to her: I am the resurrection and the life: he that believeth in me, although he be dead, shall live: And every one that liveth, and believeth in me, shall not die for ever." Impartial to everyone.

Seriously, God needed us to leave the nest, encourages us to learn to fly, and come back to His Tree of Life with the rest of the flock. Hell is a personal choice. ("Don't eat that"... "Build the House of God this way"... "Give to caesar what is his, and to God what is God's.")
That's not cruelty, that is discipline, disciple. #DeusVult

[*Edit: I may have jumped in at the wrong time in your discussion, but my popcorn observation stands haha]
 
We all have evidence of it. It all goes back to the garden brother. Even in knowing what they should not have done, they in pride choose to do what they had been commanded not to do. The sin in us since then would attribute all kinds of reasons to the why (mechanics of it), but as part of our DNA I do believe, we know by that the sin in us is evident even if we can't reason it or be aware of it through the man called Adam. I also believe that given humanity enough time, they will be able to find that "sin gene" if they were so inclined to believe in it.

I know many believe this but I don't (sin gene).

Scripture is clear that we are accountable and will be judged only for our own sin. Rom 2:6, Gal 6:5. If we had a sin gene, God and or Adam would receive some of our punishment.

I believe mankind is in a weak flesh and that the only affects on us from Adam and Eve's sin are exactly per scripture in Gen 3. Everything wrong with society today is summed up in those four curses mentioned by God.

I also believe our fall was inevitable. Adam was created in flesh from day 1. And the flesh is weak. This was by design. God placing the devil in the garden was to speed up an inevitable fall.

IE no sin gene, only a weak flesh.

No brother, God is good, all the time, and there is no darkness in Him. That He was able to create the possibility of evil, all the while keeping Himself separate from it does not mean that He must be in part so and is complicit to it. The thought of that is horrendous to the human intellect, especially as viewed in children, but so is the death of God on the Cross. For to have one forgiven, wiped away and not just covered as in previous temple sacrifices, required Him to limit His omniscience.

Yes, man is accountable, whether they want to accept it or not. It's like some like to say, must we acknowledge God in order for Him to exists? No, but we know there are fools in their hearts that would say so. :(

I agree 100%.

My 'AI post' was just to illustrate the fact that whilst many may not use their minds as much as the next, this does not mean any of us over twenty are not fully accountable for our actions. For knowing what is right and wrong.

To know what is right and wrong, we don't need the bible, we don't need the Holy Spirit, we don't need training. We just need a working brain. Which is why children and mentally disabled are exempt.
 
I don't trust my brain to judge dark from light in all situations. I trust God.
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Squares A and B are the exact same shade of color. Sure this case is tricky but the enemy is tricky, smart and motivated to make us doubt God.
 
I don't trust my brain to judge dark from light in all situations. I trust God.
Checker_shadow_illusion.svg

Squares A and B are the exact same shade of color. Sure this case is tricky but the enemy is tricky, smart and motivated to make us doubt God.

This is now your third rabbit trail.

If God did not give you the ten commandments you would not know that sins like adultery and murder are wrong?

Did you not read my posts to you?
 
Not sure I am following.

It is very important to try and understand why Catholics believe in and teach Purgatory. When you do, you should realise that you are not wise to mock them for it.

Catholics firmly believe that God is just and righteous. They teach non-OSAS and Purgatory. These beliefs work hand in hand. Non-OSAS only works if there is a Purgatory. God's justice is upheld because those who die young or never get a proper opportunity to be tested in this life, have an opportunity for purification in Purgatory. Good Christians who serve God for fifty years and stumble terribly in year 51 of servitude, get a chance to make amends in Purgatory.

Purgatory enables God to remain just and righteous whilst holding to a non-OSAS belief. I respect Catholics for properly defending the true nature and character of God.

Those who teach non-OSAS and exclude a Purgatory, well those people I have an issue with. How do you believe God is just and righteous when He can send to eternal punishment a faithful servant who stumbles in year 51 of servitude and to eternal bliss a criminal next to Jesus who only repents of his sins, has no servitude and only lives to praise Jesus for 2-4 hours.

I personally don't believe either are true. I believe OSAS. But whatever you believe, if God is tainted and incriminated by it, your belief is false. All who hear your teaching can be stumbled and believe God is unjust and unrighteous.

As Christians we must do better. Properly representing God to the lost is our 'one' job.

2 Cor 5:20 Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God.
I'll mock any group who teaches something different than what God and Scripture say.
"those who die young or never get a proper opportunity to be tested in this life have an opportunity for purification in Purgatory" - There is no evidence for Purgatory. There is no evidence a baby or young child STAYS a baby/child for eternity. Inference they are treated differently since they didn't have the opportunity. Same as those who weren't alive before Jesus was born.
There's a big difference between "refused the Truth and Salvation" vs "No opportunity."
I don't know God's Plan for creation and to assume you or they do IS a problem.

Give us your cherry picked verses on this "purgatory". I know which ones to expect.
 
I know many believe this but I don't (sin gene).

Scripture is clear that we are accountable and will be judged only for our own sin. Rom 2:6, Gal 6:5. If we had a sin gene, God and or Adam would receive some of our punishment.
I’m sorry, but I don’t see that either Romans 2:6 or Galatians 6:5 is about original sin of man, which of course Romans 5:12–19 alludes to. Those verses do not exclude the reality of sin existing in all of us, even apart from our own sinful acts. I would have you consider Psalm 51:5 and though there might be other verses, I do believe this is pretty clear on the existence of the original sin of man.

I do agree that we won't be judged for another's sin, but only our own, which is why one must consider original sin belonging to all of us, through Adam and is evidenced by death which we will all experience. Now one can show exceptions to this also, but only by the instances of divine intervention. Otherwise, they too would have died like everyone else.

I believe mankind is in a weak flesh and that the only affects on us from Adam and Eve's sin are exactly per scripture in Gen 3. Everything wrong with society today is summed up in those four curses mentioned by God.

I also believe our fall was inevitable. Adam was created in flesh from day 1. And the flesh is weak. This was by design. God placing the devil in the garden was to speed up an inevitable fall.

IE no sin gene, only a weak flesh.
Nah. I do not believe we are soulless husks...though in modern culture they'd have no problem believing in that! lol
There would be more to unwrap in the above, but I do believe the "Nah" covers it for me. :)

I agree 100%.

My 'AI post' was just to illustrate the fact that whilst many may not use their minds as much as the next, this does not mean any of us over twenty are not fully accountable for our actions. For knowing what is right and wrong.

To know what is right and wrong, we don't need the bible, we don't need the Holy Spirit, we don't need training. We just need a working brain. Which is why children and mentally disabled are exempt.
You can call me Al if you want. I've been called a lot worse in my day...even on Talk Jesus! lol
That is why I truly believe in God's grace which can also be reflected by His direct divine intervention at times, but not a carta blanche as some would believe exists.

For your last two sentences, I would say that Romans 2:14-15 fits in there nicely.

With the Love in Christ Jesus.
YBIC/Moderator
Nick
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I’m sorry, but I don’t see that either Romans 2:6 or Galatians 6:5 is about original sin of man, which of course Romans 5:12–19 alludes to. Those verses do not exclude the reality of sin existing in all of us, even apart from our own sinful acts. I would have you consider Psalm 51:5 and though there might be other verses, I do believe this is pretty clear on the existence of the original sin of man.

Rom 2:6 and Gal 6:5 make it clear that we will be judged 'exactly' according to what 'we' did. Not what a 'sin gene' made us do.

Rom 5:12-19 clearly states that sin entered the world through one man.

Now Rom 5 does not mean Adam gave us all a sin gene. It means the knowledge of sin, the Gen 3:14-19 curses that follow sin came upon the earth the moment he sinned. 'Sin was found'. Its like when you first discover coffee, there is no going back. God's presense had to leave earth. Earth became unholy as there was an Adam and an Eve walking around with sin and a sin awareness.

Babies pre-Adam's sin woke up in a world with a weak flesh and no 'sin awareness'.

Babies after Adam's sin wake up in a world with a weak flesh and one where they can see their mothers cry in childbirth. Their fathers yelling as they just had pests kill their crop. Their siblings stealing their food as food is scarce.

Another example:

1. Murder can exist because jealousy can exist.
2. Jealousy can exist because fine linen to make nice clothing is scarce.
3. Fine linen is scarce because pests are killing flax plants.
4. Pests are killing flax plants because Adam sinned.
4. Adam's sin ushered in Gen 3:17-19 'The ground being cursed'.

Jesus comes along and tells us not to cling to earthly possessions. Tells us that it is more blessed to give. To not be jealous but to be humble, grateful and love others as ourselves. If we obey these He becomes our strength and our desires that can end in murder are completely diffused. It's quite amazing actually how following the teachings of Jesus diffuse sin.

I am working on creating a new thread that traces all that is wrong on earth to those curses. It is actually very interesting.

I do agree that we won't be judged for another's sin, but only our own, which is why one must consider original sin belonging to all of us,

I don't know how you can reconcile the two. If we have a sin gene, God and or Adam are to blame for our sin.

If a mother takes heroine when she is pregnant and the baby grows up with an inevitable heroine addiction that leads to prostitution and murder, the mother would be mostly to blame.

Nah. I do not believe we are soulless husks...though in modern culture they'd have no problem believing in that! lol
There would be more to unwrap in the above, but I do believe the "Nah" covers it for me. :)

Not sure what you mean? My only point was that we have a weak flesh by design.

I believe a human is more prone to temptation due to the inherent limitations of the flesh. We are smart but not 'that smart'. We cannot fly. We cannot walk on water. We cannot live a day without needing to eat food. We bleed easily. etc etc

The devil could have tempted Eve with adultery but he chose vanity. She and Adam would have probably been able to fail on a few items.

You can call me Al if you want. I've been called a lot worse in my day...even on Talk Jesus! lol

No lol, I was referring to my post # 41. It was an AI generated post that I merely reviewed before posting.

Dear AI = Dear Chat GPT / Grok ;)

That is why I truly believe in God's grace which can also be reflected by His direct divine intervention at times, but not a carta blanche as some would believe exists.
For your last two sentences, I would say that Romans 2:14-15 fits in there nicely.

We agree on everything it seems except that I don't believe you have meditated enough on how the wording 'sin gene' incriminates God.

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Sin gene implies that:
  1. God is unjust. If God created us with an inherited condition that makes sin unavoidable and then condemns us for our inevitable sins, His justice becomes difficult to reconcile with that teaching.
  2. Personal responsibility is undermined. If our sinful actions are inevitable consequences of a condition inherited from Adam, it becomes difficult to explain how we are fully responsible for those actions.
  3. Free will is compromised. If the inherited condition makes sinful choices unavoidable, then our ability to choose otherwise is called into question.
  4. Adam becomes indirectly responsible for our personal sins. If we cannot avoid sinning because of what we inherited from Adam, then the explanation for our sinful actions shifts away from our own choices and towards Adam's original transgression.
  5. We are held accountable for a condition we did not choose. We did not choose to inherit the condition, yet if it makes our sinful behaviour inevitable, we are still held accountable for the resulting actions.
  6. God appears to punish people for the consequences of how He created them. If God deliberately created us with a condition that makes sin unavoidable, then condemning us for the inevitable consequences raises a serious question about His justice.
  7. Judgment according to our own deeds becomes difficult to explain. Romans 2:6 says God will render to every man according to his deeds. If our sinful deeds are unavoidable consequences of an inherited condition, how does that reconcile with personal accountability?
  8. The distinction between temptation and sin becomes blurred. Having a desire or being tempted is not the same as committing a sinful act. An inherited inclination does not itself establish that a person has no choice in how to respond.
  9. The consequences of Adam's sin become confused with personal guilt. All humanity may experience the consequences of Adam's transgression, including mortality, but that does not automatically establish that every person is personally guilty of Adam's act or incapable of resisting sin.
  10. The meaning of God's judgment needs clarification. If people are condemned for personal sins they could not possibly avoid, the claim that God judges each person justly according to their own deeds requires further explanation.
My objection is not to the biblical teaching that sin and death entered the world through Adam. My objection is to the claim that we inherit a condition from Adam that makes our personal sins inevitable. We must distinguish between inheriting the consequences of Adam's sin and being unable to resist sin because of an inherited condition.

Scripture repeatedly holds people accountable for their own actions. We should therefore be careful not to explain personal sin in a way that makes individual responsibility meaningless.
 
My objection is not to the biblical teaching that sin and death entered the world through Adam. My objection is to the claim that we inherit a condition from Adam that makes our personal sins inevitable. We must distinguish between inheriting the consequences of Adam's sin and being unable to resist sin because of an inherited condition.

Scripture repeatedly holds people accountable for their own actions. We should therefore be careful not to explain personal sin in a way that makes individual responsibility meaningless.
(Case in point, The entire City of Enoch. And probably Nineveh in Jonah's time. John the Baptist. Joseph and Mary. Elijah says hello.)
 
When you judge someone you consider all that took place. Law / justice 101.
Limited information. That is why the finite human mind is incapable of judging God in some situations. While testing Job, a bunch of supporting characters were killed. God allowed it. I know by faith that God is omniscient and just. His infinite mind is taking into account all that took place and all future decisions of those souls. We take into account all that we know about the past and remember.

Please never direct AI posts at me. Your using AI on spiritual matters is forgivable due to limited information. Just another rabbit hole on the finite mind to toss aside (lost count).
 
Limited information. That is why the finite human mind is incapable of judging God in some situations. While testing Job, a bunch of supporting characters were killed. God allowed it. I know by faith that God is omniscient and just. His infinite mind is taking into account all that took place and all future decisions of those souls. We take into account all that we know about the past and remember.

Of course we can judge God on what He allowed to happen to the loved ones around Job.

Atheists accuse God of evil 24/7 for allowing children to die in the flood. Heck even for killing the wicked. They have a field day with instances of genocide.

There is absolutely no evil present in a God Creator when He decides 'our time is up'. It is what it is. We had no say in the day we were given life and we have no say in the day it is taken.

What we as Christians need to focus on is rather 'how' it was taken? Do children get another chance as their minds are not fully developed and they are surely not accountable for their actions?

In every instance of 'God empowering' someone to take a life, it has always been swift. This is key as you cannot defend God on torture. Torture is pure evil.

Please never direct AI posts at me. Your using AI on spiritual matters is forgivable due to limited information. Just another rabbit hole on the finite mind to toss aside (lost count).

This made me chuckle. It is 2026, AI is an amazing tool. You must learn to use it, not fight it.
 
I was about to give up on this thread and "Why God Is Incomprehensible" arrived in my inbox. Source. I guess someone here needs to read this.
Boxed In

Atheists constantly argue against the existence of God by complaining, “If God exists, then why … [fill in the blank]??” What they’re really saying is, “I can’t comprehend God’s behavior, therefore he can’t possibly exist.”

My reply, and the message of this week’s letter is quite simple: If God is able to fit neatly and completely into the limited confines of human comprehension, then he isn’t much of a God. He certainly is not YHWH, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.

“‘My thoughts are nothing like your thoughts,’ says the LORD. ‘And my ways are far beyond anything you could imagine.’”

Isaiah 55:8 (NLT)
To Infinity …

We don’t have to rely solely on Scripture; science and math have a great deal to teach us about God’s incomprehensibility. The eye-opening lessons begin with acknowledging the relationship between the biblical God and the concept of infinity.

“Great is our Lord, and mighty in power; His understanding is infinite.”

Psalm 147:5 (NKJV)

Like God’s presence and wisdom, the mathematical number line - the spinal cord of modern science’s worldview - is boundless. It stretches from negative infinity to positive infinity.

As a budding scientist I quickly learned that, even though we have a word for infinity and speak about infinity with familiarity - just as we do God - infinity is, in fact, utterly beyond human comprehension.

For example, consider this:

There are an infinite number of points in a one-inch line segment.

There are an infinite number of points in a one-foot line segment.

There are an infinite number of points in a one-mile line segment.

And so forth.

It doesn’t matter how long line segments are, they each contain exactly the same infinite number of points!

Even simple arithmetic boggles the mind when it comes to infinity.

For example, with finite arithmetic:

100 + 100 = 200

50 × 100 = 5,000

100 ÷ 100 = 1

But with infinite arithmetic:

infinity + infinity = infinity

50 × infinity = infinity

infinity ÷ 100 = infinity

In the language of science and math, the atheist’s complaint becomes, “If infinity exists, then why doesn’t it obey the normal rules of arithmetic?” And the atheist’s conclusion becomes, “I can’t comprehend infinity’s behavior, therefore it can’t possibly exist.”

But, of course, infinity does exist; if it doesn’t, the entire modern scientific worldview is complete nonsense.
… And Beyond!

And that’s just for starters. In the late 1800s Russian-born German mathematician Georg Cantor asked a seemingly childlike question: “What number comes after infinity?

In seeking an answer, Cantor began by making a trivial observation about the number line, namely: There are an infinite number of whole numbers - 0,1,2,3,4,5, …

But then he made an observation no one else had ever made about the number line, namely: There are infinitely more numbers on the number line than just the whole numbers. There are an infinite number of fractions and irrational numbers - i.e., numbers that cannot be expressed as fractions such as:

Pi (π) = 3.14159 ...

Square Root of Two (√2) = 1.41421 ...

Golden Ratio (φ) = 1.61803 ...

In this manner, to everyone’s astonishment, Cantor proved there are quantities even bigger, even more incomprehensible, than the trivial infinitude of whole numbers! He called this hierarchy of infinities beyond infinity transfinite numbers and labeled them using with the Hebrew letter aleph (א):

Aleph Null (ℵ₀): The quantity of whole numbers.

Aleph One (ℵ₁): The quantity of whole numbers, fractions, and irrationals.

Aleph Two (ℵ₂): The quantity of all possible mathematical functions and graphs.

Etcetera

In addition to being a mathematical genius, Cantor was a devout Christian. As such, he offered a fascinating explanation for where he saw God - whom he saw as the “Absolute Infinity” - fitting into his startling numerical revelation:

“What surpasses all that is finite and transfinite … is the single, completely individual unity in which everything is included, which includes the Absolute, [which is] incomprehensible to the human understanding. This is the Actus Purissimus, which by many is called God.”

Georg Cantor
Out of the Box

Infinity, transfinite numbers, and the biblical God all have one thing in common: they put us in our place. They require us to humble ourselves, to admit our limited capacity for comprehending the deepest mysteries of the universe.

Over the years, I’ve observed that, sadly, humility is not a common trait among atheists. Which explains why they are able to claim with a straight face that, “I can’t comprehend God’s ways, so he can’t possibly exist.”

God’s incomprehensibility is evidence that - contrary to another of atheism’s hackneyed accusations - he is not a product of the human imagination.

Unlike the small, boxed-in, fully comprehensible deity atheists demand he should be, the biblical God - in total agreement with the modern scientific worldview, number line and all - constantly reminds us that most of reality is not visible, not logical, and not even imaginable.

“Oh, how great are God’s riches and wisdom and knowledge! How impossible it is for us to understand his decisions and his ways!”

Romans 11:33 (NLT)

Love,

Of course we can judge God on what He allowed to happen to the loved ones around Job.
You can't see it but you are not judging you are assuming God is good through faith (that's good). We don't know if some loved ones were good with God, some had rejected God, some would have accepted God later in life. Any number of these possible combinations can make God evil and/or partial. By faith I know that only possibilities that keep God's attributes could have happened.

This made me chuckle. It is 2026, AI is an amazing tool. You must learn to use it, not fight it.
Don't laugh at something you can't see yet.
 
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