The first man came out red

[StewardoftheMystery]

1 Peter 1:23
Being born again, not of “corruptible seed,” but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

Isaiah 1:4
Ah sinful nation, a people laden with iniquity, a “seed of evildoers,” children that are “corrupters:” they have forsaken the Lord, they have provoked the Holy One of Israel unto anger, they are gone away backward.

Isaiah 14:20
Thou shalt not be joined with them in burial, because thou hast destroyed thy land, and slain thy people: “the seed of evildoers”shall never be renowned.

 

[StewardoftheMystery]

Here is another example where sin is shown as red, crimson, or scarlet, in the scarlet worm.

is written in Psa 22:6 - But I am a worm, H8438and no man; a reproach of men, and despised of the people.”

This verse is speaking of Jesus when he was on the cross. But why is he called a worm in that verse? If you look at that word worm in the Hebrew it means a scarlet or crimson colored worm called “coccus ilicis”.

When this scarlet worm has its young, it dies and bleeds out a red liquid onto her young. And after 3 days of being dead, the body of the worm turns white. Now to show what this scarlet worm represents we go to Isa 1:18 - Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD:though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, H8438 they shall be as wool.”

Notice the word crimson is the same word worm (H8438) used in the Psalm. So the Lord is showing sin as red, scarlet, or crimson. This by the way is why the Dragon is shown as red and the beast is shown as scarlet in the Revelation.

But why is Jesus shown as sin? Paul gives us this mystery in 2 Corinthians 5:21For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.”

What amazes me about this is thinking about how God just might have created this little worm in the beginning just to symbolize sin and Jesus on the cross, just think about it. God had a detailed plan from the very beginning, amazing grace!

This scarlet worm which represents sin also reveals another mystery in Isa 66:24- And they shall go forth,and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm H8438 shall not die,neither shall their fire be quenched;and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh”
Again notice the same word scarlet (H8438) is shown again as worm. This is the same wording Jesus used in this parable about the need to remove sin in our lives. Jesus said in Mark 9:43-48And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
44 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
45 And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
46 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
47 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire:
48 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.”

Jesus is not talking about removing our physical body parts, he is talking about removing sin from our lives, or you will be in danger of hell. And your sins will still remain, eating at you like a worm on a dead carcass.

This parable is why Paul often compared sin like being “members”of your body, and the need to put them to death.

And that is why Jesus was made to be sin for us, so he could put to death in us that body of sin.
Romans 6:6
Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.”

 

[Luminary]

I can appreciate that. The only point I'm trying to make is that Adam (the name of that person many associate with the first human) does not mean red.

You know, it's funny in a sense that we (here in North America) easily equate red-skinned with 'native' Americans--- as in the skin tone of the people that were here before any white people arrived. There are very good and interesting videos that debunk the whole 'Out of Africa' theory (more properly we should call it theology rather than theory) and one anthropologist that I know -named Robert Sepehr has a multitude of youtube vids on the subject, many of which include an exploration of this red-man idea. I don't agree with much of what he presents, but much of it I do find interesting. He has one vid in particular on the 0 negative blood type that touches on origins and has a couple million views. I won't link it here (in case that's against some kind of rule) but you can easily find it by searching- He dives into 'red' civilizations in other vids on Phonecia (meaning blood red) if you have an interest.

Rh- Negative Blood and Antediluvian Civilizations - ROBERT SEPEHR​

But that's NOT what I'm talking about here. I'm focusing on the tendency for people to take an idea, forming it into a premise, then building an entire theology around that premise. That's exactly how denominations are formed. How sects are formed, even how cults are formed. Get yourself a following and in time you have the Millerites, and from that the Seventh Day Adventists, the Mormons, the Jehovah's Witnesses, the Calvinists, the Mid-Acts Dispensationalists, the Catholics, the Protestants and so on....

Even bad ideas and false premises can become the foundation for such groups. It's an association game. You take an idea and build a theology around it-- things to support your idea. You cherry pick supporting material and embrace it while at the same time ignoring the material that counters your premise. I'll give an example...

In Exodus you have Moses and the people constructing the tabernacle for the ark of God-- what they considered to be the house for the very presence of God. "‘Take from among you a contribution to the LORD; whoever is of a willing heart, let him bring it as the LORD’S contribution: gold, silver, and bronze, and blue, purple and scarlet material, fine linen, goats’ hair, and rams’ skins dyed red, and porpoise skins, and acacia wood, and oil for lighting, and spices for the anointing oil, and for the fragrant incense, and onyx stones and setting stones for the ephod and for the breastpiece."

The Hebrew word in that passage is adom (red). It's a different word entirely from the Hebrew word for man (adam). They are not interchangeable. They don't mean the same thing just like Edom and Adam are not the same word and do not mean the same thing. The "red" (admoni) that Esau came out of the womb as is not the same as the 'red' soil that the man (adam or Adam) was formed from. That's the first problem. The second problem stems from the first error. When you want to parlay "red" into meaning "sin" are you willing to do so consistently? Is red blood then an equivalent? Are those red-dyed skins that cover the tabernacle then 'symbolic' of a covering of sin for the ark of God? It's problematic. Is the red blood sprinkled on the altar for sacrifice symbolic of sin? No-- it's a payment for sin.

The "dom" or "dam" root of all those words and names above comes from the single root word for red. It's the exact same word scripture uses for "blood" and sorry-- blood is not symbolic of sin. Unless you've constructed a whole new theology based upon that misconcept.

Thank you for pointing all this out! I will look into it

I do have to say though, through the searching I’ve done myself on the name Adam, majority come back to “of the red earth/ ruddy skin color.” Which even white people have that pinkish play to their skin…lol…just different shades of red Just as the earth itself is different shades of red, into tan, grey, brown, and even black. (Depending on mineral concentration and makeup)

There is also the factor of the equator. The closer to the equator the darker people get. And it’s opposite. The farther, the paler they get or whiter. Some even pinker…lol

And on the flip side of this, in the Energetic sense, according to our chakras, red represents our base instincts. Our “root”, from which all else grows (upward) to the Crown which is indigo.(enlightenment-freedom) Not necessarily “bad” per say, but certainly where what we consider sin dwells when out of balance. But the same can be said of the other chakras also….when out of balance…It’s a whole system…

So either way it goes, (physical/Spiritual) red represents the “base” instincts. And when you factor in the blood, (being the color red), holds all of our “instructions” to life itself. And with a “lower” consciousness….Sin dwells…
Even the shedding of blood, is the “giving up” of life itself….even symbolically… or “sin”.

“Flesh and blood cannot enter the kingdom of heaven”!

And when you go deeper into that, into the genetics aspect of it, it has been shown that it acts like an on/off switch in the 97% that they called junk. Which not sure if they have found this or not, but “moves” (on/off) according to our choices. Which then changes the rest from the inside out.
Fight/flight….good/evil….yes/no…..
should I/or shouldn’t I(?!)

Our choosing on a daily based, literally makes or breaks us on a physical level, based upon the mechanics of our DNA.

Hence the instruction for Living. In the Bible, and others’ religions that speak of the same accord. The Golden rule!
The pleading to seek Gods righteousness and not our own. Because Love itself; Agape Love/ Compassionate Action….is literally a “force” that heals and creates.

Everything that we do, we do out of Love. Love of food. Love of people. Love of the planet. Love of ourself.
Love creates inventions and spawns innovations. It heals people faster when they have a support system compared to those who don’t. And when there is a Lack of that kind of Love, it destroys and brings death. Or when it is out of balance and turns into an addiction!

So truly, you both are speaking the same thing from my point of view. Only separated by language. And a few missing pieces, such as our energetic point system -(that runs our organs and the rest of our bodies; the Health of them, determined by the balance of energy in each point —-all researchable

It’s how Jesus was able to do what he did. And why he died to show us. It was a sacrifice. And he did cover -every sin- that we could sin- by providing a WAY out of it, Speaking Only the Truth, Lighting the Way- That leads to Life itself!

But I do indeed understand your complaint. As I suffer from the same complaint. That’s why there are people like us

 

[AnneOminous]

Thank you for pointing all this out! I will look into it

I do have to say though, through the searching I’ve done myself on the name Adam, majority come back to “of the red earth/ ruddy skin color.” Which even white people have that pinkish play to their skin…lol…just different shades of red Just as the earth itself is different shades of red, into tan, grey, brown, and even black. (Depending on mineral concentration and makeup)

There is also the factor of the equator. The closer to the equator the darker people get. And it’s opposite. The farther, the paler they get or whiter. Some even pinker…lol

And on the flip side of this, in the Energetic sense, according to our chakras, red represents our base instincts. Our “root”, from which all else grows (upward) to the Crown which is indigo.(enlightenment-freedom) Not necessarily “bad” per say, but certainly where what we consider sin dwells when out of balance. But the same can be said of the other chakras also….when out of balance…It’s a whole system…

So either way it goes, (physical/Spiritual) red represents the “base” instincts. And when you factor in the blood, (being the color red), holds all of our “instructions” to life itself. And with a “lower” consciousness….Sin dwells…
Even the shedding of blood, is the “giving up” of life itself….even symbolically… or “sin”.

“Flesh and blood cannot enter the kingdom of heaven”!

And when you go deeper into that, into the genetics aspect of it, it has been shown that it acts like an on/off switch in the 97% that they called junk. Which not sure if they have found this or not, but “moves” (on/off) according to our choices. Which then changes the rest from the inside out.
Fight/flight….good/evil….yes/no…..
should I/or shouldn’t I(?!)

Our choosing on a daily based, literally makes or breaks us on a physical level, based upon the mechanics of our DNA.

Hence the instruction for Living. In the Bible, and others’ religions that speak of the same accord. The Golden rule!
The pleading to seek Gods righteousness and not our own. Because Love itself; Agape Love/ Compassionate Action….is literally a “force” that heals and creates.

Everything that we do, we do out of Love. Love of food. Love of people. Love of the planet. Love of ourself.
Love creates inventions and spawns innovations. It heals people faster when they have a support system compared to those who don’t. And when there is a Lack of that kind of Love, it destroys and brings death. Or when it is out of balance and turns into an addiction!

So truly, you both are speaking the same thing from my point of view. Only separated by language. And a few missing pieces, such as our energetic point system -(that runs our organs and the rest of our bodies; the Health of them, determined by the balance of energy in each point —-all researchable

It’s how Jesus was able to do what he did. And why he died to show us. It was a sacrifice. And he did cover -every sin- that we could sin- by providing a WAY out of it, Speaking Only the Truth, Lighting the Way- That leads to Life itself!

But I do indeed understand your complaint. As I suffer from the same complaint. That’s why there are people like us

There are people like us because there are people like him... Many people, with a wave of the hand will dismiss the things they don't understand and make no effort to understand them-- because they don't "believe" in such things. Similarly they will also 'believe' in other things without any investigation whatsoever simply because they were taught those things. Strange, isn't it? The stronger their 'beliefs' the less likely they are willing to examine them or anything new. I understand what you are saying about energy-- perhaps one of these things that people dismiss is that God is light and surrounded by light. Consider how Ezekiel perceived His glory-

Now above the expanse that was over their heads there was something resembling a throne, like lapis lazuli in appearance; and on that which resembled a throne, high up, was a figure with the appearance of a man. Then I noticed from the appearance of His loins and upward something like glowing metal that looked like fire all around within it, and from the appearance of His loins and downward I saw something like fire; and there was a radiance around Him. As the appearance of the rainbow in the clouds on a rainy day, so was the appearance of the surrounding radiance. Such was the appearance of the likeness of the glory of the LORD. And when I saw it, I fell on my face and heard a voice speaking.

All of that for another thread, perhaps some other day.


I already pointed out several times that you can't interchange "red" and "sin." Not the same. Not the same word, not the same meaning. You can't interchange red and sin and you can't make Adam mean red in the sense that because the name has the root for red, that makes man sinful. It's manufactured theology and nonsense. It's not some "mystery" that Stew has solved it's an over-reach and if I had more patience I'd show him again that the H110 Hebrew word used at the beginning in Genesis where the man Adam is concerned is not the H119 used later in Genesis for Esau-- which was his premise for this thread and another. Of course he ignores this, because it counters his 'belief.'

He goes on and attempts to support his notion with a comparison between the twins- Jacob and Esau-- Jacob being fair and Esau being ruddy. As if Jacob was pure and Esau was sinful-- this is the foundation of the concept he presented. He said-

If you are red then you are dead, but if you are white then you are alright.

It's complete bunk. Jacob may have had lighter skin (so what!) but he certainly wasn't pure. Esau may have been stupid to so flippantly trade his rights as the firstborn to satisfy his hunger, but it wasn't a sin to do so. Jacob was a deceiver and supplanter (it's what his name means) and from him come the twelve sons through four different women-- that's his legacy. Not a particularly good son, nor husband, nor father..... oh- and he dug a well. Bravo. Esau married foreign women.... that was his sin? Might have to ignore that two of Jacob's wives were originally his father-in-law Laban's slave girls- Billah and Zilpah. oops. From these come Israel.

No-- "dam" can't be interchanged with "sin" but you can however interchange the word for blood. It's the same word. The distinction isn't between red and white, but between flesh and spirit. Between blood and water, one being physical and the other spiritual in meaning and nature. You know there is yet another completely distinct word for the color red. While blood is red, and red is ruddy, and red is earthly and fleshy, there is another distinct word for red that is translated as crimson (tola) or scarlet-- shani.

“Come now and let us reason together, saith the Lord: though your sins are as scarlet, they shall be white as snow; though they are red like crimson they shall be as wool.”

The duality of natures is what can't be missed. A polarity with opposites, one an imperfect reflection of the other- the physical a likeness of the greater spiritual reality. But likely not the kind of mystery that Stew will want to explore.

 

[StewardoftheMystery]

1 Corinthians 15:22
For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

 

[StewardoftheMystery]

Ezekiel 16:1-22​

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King James Version​

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16 Again the word of the Lord came unto me, saying,
2 Son of man, cause Jerusalem to know her abominations,
3 And say, Thus saith the Lord God unto Jerusalem; Thy birth and thy nativity is of the land of Canaan; thy father was an Amorite, and thy mother an Hittite.
4 And as for thy nativity, in the day thou wast born thy navel was not cut, neither wast thou washed in water to supple thee; thou wast not salted at all, nor swaddled at all.
5 None eye pitied thee, to do any of these unto thee, to have compassion upon thee; but thou wast cast out in the open field, to the lothing of thy person, in the day that thou wast born.
6 And when I passed by thee, and saw thee polluted in thine own blood, I said unto thee when thou wast in thy blood, Live; yea, I said unto thee when thou wast in thy blood, Live.
7 I have caused thee to multiply as the bud of the field, and thou hast increased and waxen great, and thou art come to excellent ornaments: thy breasts are fashioned, and thine hair is grown, whereas thou wast naked and bare.
8 Now when I passed by thee, and looked upon thee, behold, thy time was the time of love; and I spread my skirt over thee, and covered thy nakedness: yea, I sware unto thee, and entered into a covenant with thee, saith the Lord God, and thou becamest mine.
9 Then washed I thee with water; yea, I throughly washed away thy blood from thee, and I anointed thee with oil.
10 I clothed thee also with broidered work, and shod thee with badgers' skin, and I girded thee about with fine linen, and I covered thee with silk.
11 I decked thee also with ornaments, and I put bracelets upon thy hands, and a chain on thy neck.
12 And I put a jewel on thy forehead, and earrings in thine ears, and a beautiful crown upon thine head.
13 Thus wast thou decked with gold and silver; and thy raiment was of fine linen, and silk, and broidered work; thou didst eat fine flour, and honey, and oil: and thou wast exceeding beautiful, and thou didst prosper into a kingdom.
14 And thy renown went forth among the heathen for thy beauty: for it was perfect through my comeliness, which I had put upon thee, saith the Lord God.
15 But thou didst trust in thine own beauty, and playedst the harlot because of thy renown, and pouredst out thy fornications on every one that passed by; his it was.
16 And of thy garments thou didst take, and deckedst thy high places with divers colours, and playedst the harlot thereupon: the like things shall not come, neither shall it be so.
17 Thou hast also taken thy fair jewels of my gold and of my silver, which I had given thee, and madest to thyself images of men, and didst commit whoredom with them,
18 And tookest thy broidered garments, and coveredst them: and thou hast set mine oil and mine incense before them.
19 My meat also which I gave thee, fine flour, and oil, and honey, wherewith I fed thee, thou hast even set it before them for a sweet savour: and thus it was, saith the Lord God.
20 Moreover thou hast taken thy sons and thy daughters, whom thou hast borne unto me, and these hast thou sacrificed unto them to be devoured. Is this of thy whoredoms a small matter,
21 That thou hast slain my children, and delivered them to cause them to pass through the fire for them?
22 And in all thine abominations and thy whoredoms thou hast not remembered the days of thy youth, when thou wast naked and bare, and wast polluted in thy blood.

 

[Luminary]

There are people like us because there are people like him... Many people, with a wave of the hand will dismiss the things they don't understand and make no effort to understand them-- because they don't "believe" in such things. Similarly they will also 'believe' in other things without any investigation whatsoever simply because they were taught those things. Strange, isn't it? The stronger their 'beliefs' the less likely they are willing to examine them or anything new. I understand what you are saying about energy-- perhaps one of these things that people dismiss is that God is light and surrounded by light. Consider how Ezekiel perceived His glory-

Now above the expanse that was over their heads there was something resembling a throne, like lapis lazuli in appearance; and on that which resembled a throne, high up, was a figure with the appearance of a man. Then I noticed from the appearance of His loins and upward something like glowing metal that looked like fire all around within it, and from the appearance of His loins and downward I saw something like fire; and there was a radiance around Him. As the appearance of the rainbow in the clouds on a rainy day, so was the appearance of the surrounding radiance. Such was the appearance of the likeness of the glory of the LORD. And when I saw it, I fell on my face and heard a voice speaking.

All of that for another thread, perhaps some other day.


I already pointed out several times that you can't interchange "red" and "sin." Not the same. Not the same word, not the same meaning. You can't interchange red and sin and you can't make Adam mean red in the sense that because the name has the root for red, that makes man sinful. It's manufactured theology and nonsense. It's not some "mystery" that Stew has solved it's an over-reach and if I had more patience I'd show him again that the H110 Hebrew word used at the beginning in Genesis where the man Adam is concerned is not the H119 used later in Genesis for Esau-- which was his premise for this thread and another. Of course he ignores this, because it counters his 'belief.'

He goes on and attempts to support his notion with a comparison between the twins- Jacob and Esau-- Jacob being fair and Esau being ruddy. As if Jacob was pure and Esau was sinful-- this is the foundation of the concept he presented. He said-


It's complete bunk. Jacob may have had lighter skin (so what!) but he certainly wasn't pure. Esau may have been stupid to so flippantly trade his rights as the firstborn to satisfy his hunger, but it wasn't a sin to do so. Jacob was a deceiver and supplanter (it's what his name means) and from him come the twelve sons through four different women-- that's his legacy. Not a particularly good son, nor husband, nor father..... oh- and he dug a well. Bravo. Esau married foreign women.... that was his sin? Might have to ignore that two of Jacob's wives were originally his father-in-law Laban's slave girls- Billah and Zilpah. oops. From these come Israel.

No-- "dam" can't be interchanged with "sin" but you can however interchange the word for blood. It's the same word. The distinction isn't between red and white, but between flesh and spirit. Between blood and water, one being physical and the other spiritual in meaning and nature. You know there is yet another completely distinct word for the color red. While blood is red, and red is ruddy, and red is earthly and fleshy, there is another distinct word for red that is translated as crimson (tola) or scarlet-- shani.

“Come now and let us reason together, saith the Lord: though your sins are as scarlet, they shall be white as snow; though they are red like crimson they shall be as wool.”

The duality of natures is what can't be missed. A polarity with opposites, one an imperfect reflection of the other- the physical a likeness of the greater spiritual reality. But likely not the kind of mystery that Stew will want to explore.

That’s an Awesome video! Thank you!

The first thing that came to mind reading your first sentence, was Duality…lol

Its the cognitive dissonance, denial, the backfire effect(the more you show them the more they dissonance)
The war in duality! Stronger in some more than others, depending on how strong it was put into their heads as children….programming is hard to rewrite!

Yes Ezekiel! What He saw, was what’s called our merkaba. Which contains and holds all we are. And the aura that it projects being a Light “body”.
Really wish I could have that kind of sight. The hope remains that one day I will get there eyes not opened all the way yet! Just enough to see where I’m going and not trip on the rocks in front of me…lol

I’m all honesty, I haven’t really gotten into the specific word usage. Like to break down into Strongs…..Reason being, is as I first started my journey, it started out with the Bible itself.

*“If the Bible is the word of God, and God never changes, then why does his book change per denomination? “

Then I had to seek each Bible. From Orthodox to (g)nostic. Then I had to compare translations. Then I had to research the culture(s)…..ugh….
And in the process, (literally in the middle of searching) I was convicted….

“Are you listening to what it is saying(?)”
(Face slap)….lol

Spirit speaks Concepts (and principles) through symbolism. Though looking into language and culture is important to understand this symbolism, most of the original meanings to these symbols have been lost to us. Though the concepts remains, as it truly speaks to the Spirit within us. Which becomes aware of such language.

So when I Read Scripture, it is the concept and principle I keep watch for. There is a lot that I can see in what both of you speak. Both having very good points. But time does not permit me to truly get into it at the moment. I am also not well versed in the OT. For Jesus is my foundation, so spent most of my time in the NT. It’s only over the last few years that I have tried multiple times to read the OT, and can’t seem to get through it.
For multiple reasons I won’t disclose for now. For most are not ready yet.

But I do understand where you are coming from with the Hebrew usage. It does make a difference. As a Hebrew word itself, contains a concept alone. To build upon itself the more words are strung together.
(Hebrew is on my list to learn

But considering the point in time we are at, it’s almost redundant, as the English language is used for a reason, as it get pin point specific. To build a concept. ( infinity symbol) So I focus on the concepts.

And I completely agree with your last paragraph which truly sums Everything up very well!

 

[AnneOminous]

That’s an Awesome video! Thank you!

The first thing that came to mind reading your first sentence, was Duality…lol

Its the cognitive dissonance, denial, the backfire effect(the more you show them the more they dissonance)
The war in duality! Stronger in some more than others, depending on how strong it was put into their heads as children….programming is hard to rewrite!

Yes Ezekiel! What He saw, was what’s called our merkaba. Which contains and holds all we are. And the aura that it projects being a Light “body”.
Really wish I could have that kind of sight. The hope remains that one day I will get there eyes not opened all the way yet! Just enough to see where I’m going and not trip on the rocks in front of me…lol

I’m all honesty, I haven’t really gotten into the specific word usage. Like to break down into Strongs…..Reason being, is as I first started my journey, it started out with the Bible itself.

*“If the Bible is the word of God, and God never changes, then why does his book change per denomination? “

Then I had to seek each Bible. From Orthodox to (g)nostic. Then I had to compare translations. Then I had to research the culture(s)…..ugh….
And in the process, (literally in the middle of searching) I was convicted….

“Are you listening to what it is saying(?)”
(Face slap)….lol

Spirit speaks Concepts (and principles) through symbolism. Though looking into language and culture is important to understand this symbolism, most of the original meanings to these symbols have been lost to us. Though the concepts remains, as it truly speaks to the Spirit within us. Which becomes aware of such language.

So when I Read Scripture, it is the concept and principle I keep watch for. There is a lot that I can see in what both of you speak. Both having very good points. But time does not permit me to truly get into it at the moment. I am also not well versed in the OT. For Jesus is my foundation, so spent most of my time in the NT. It’s only over the last few years that I have tried multiple times to read the OT, and can’t seem to get through it.
For multiple reasons I won’t disclose for now. For most are not ready yet.

But I do understand where you are coming from with the Hebrew usage. It does make a difference. As a Hebrew word itself, contains a concept alone. To build upon itself the more words are strung together.
(Hebrew is on my list to learn

But considering the point in time we are at, it’s almost redundant, as the English language is used for a reason, as it get pin point specific. To build a concept. ( infinity symbol) So I focus on the concepts.

And I completely agree with your last paragraph which truly sums Everything up very well!

Oh it's wonderful to read the texts with context- culture and calendar and language. It really is. For me it was game changing. Like tasting things for the first time.

A baby's switch from pablum to peaches.

But I was introduced to concepts and the spiritual understanding long before ever investigating Hebrew or Greek. First came dreams.

 

[Luminary]

Oh it's wonderful to read the texts with context- culture and calendar and language. It really is. For me it was game changing. Like tasting things for the first time.

A baby's switch from pablum to peaches.

But I was introduced to concepts and the spiritual understanding long before ever investigating Hebrew or Greek. First came dreams.

I know exactly what you speak. For I picked up on this when getting into the cultures. Especially starting out with the SDA. But it’s a massive study. I ended up (figuratively) with a board with red (no connection intended…lol) strings going in every which direction. That literally went around the globe. Just by following the name Jesus where ever it went. And it does indeed go global when one follows faithfully without getting offense.

Really awesome that you had dereams. Nothing I’ve experienced before, but have heard many people speak of this. Quite interesting. And puzzling, as you(who ever) don’t quite know how to take them. Some do. That I have come across. And some don’t. Had my time in dream research, but because it’s subjective, personal to each, very hard to pin down. So one fools errand I didn’t chase too far…lol

 

[StewardoftheMystery]

Psalm 51:5
Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me.