The Fate of the Unborn That have Died in the Womb

[Brother Paul]

Sin is passed on to the unborn child but there is a truth in scripture for how Christ can bring the unborn that has died in the womb to God.

Psalm 51:5 Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me.
6 Behold, thou desirest truth in the inward parts: and in the hidden part thou shalt make me to know wisdom.

Psalm 139:13 For thou hast possessed my reins: thou hast covered me in my mother's womb.
14 I will praise thee; for I am fearfully and wonderfully made: marvellous are thy works; and that my soul knoweth right well.
15 My substance was not hid from thee, when I was made in secret, and curiously wrought in the lowest parts of the earth.
16 Thine eyes did see my substance, yet being unperfect; and in thy book all my members were written, which in continuance were fashioned, when as yet there was none of them.
17 How precious also are thy thoughts unto me, O God! how great is the sum of them!

Matthew 11:25 At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.
26 Even so, Father: for so it seemed good in thy sight.
27 All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him.

I suspect that the Father can reveal His Son to the unborn to reveal His Son to them as He enables them to believe in Him to be saved because...

Psalm 58:3 The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies.

1 Corinthians 15:21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

The baby, unborn or born, dies because it had inherited sin, but the starting scripture above proves that necessity for Christ to save the unborn child that would have believed in Him to be saved if born & raised and He will.

Paul also writes this about being married to a believer being married to an unbeliever...

1 Corinthians 7:12 But to the rest speak I, not the Lord: If any brother hath a wife that believeth not, and she be pleased to dwell with him, let him not put her away.
13 And the woman which hath an husband that believeth not, and if he be pleased to dwell with her, let her not leave him.
14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy.
15 But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases: but God hath called us to peace.
16 For what knowest thou, O wife, whether thou shalt save thy husband? or how knowest thou, O man, whether thou shalt save thy wife?
17 But as God hath distributed to every man, as the Lord hath called every one, so let him walk. And so ordain I in all churches.

So you are right since I assume your wife is also a believer but even if not, she is sanctified by your marriage to her and thus your unborn child is holy when the child had died.

But obviously Christ is the only One that can bring us, including the unborn child, to God.

1 Peter 3:18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:

So you will be seeing your unborn child in Heaven in that day.

Calvinists always misinterpret Psalm 51. They got it from the Roman catholi9c church (Calvin was a partial Augustinian). The "iniquity" does not refer to a shape of him made by God, it refers to the iniquity of his parents lust.

Psalm 58:3 speaks (truthfully) that we all will sin but this should not be read into (eisegesis) to mean babies are born already condemned, that doctrine is just pure evil. Far too many other scriptures would have to be ignored or re-interpreted (which Calvinists seem to do in many places)

I am guessing you are a man so you probably do not know but most conceptions fail and the potential "person" never comes to live. That's nature. The whole problem people are having politically about abortion is due to the nature of the two extreme views. Does conception equal a human being? Many Christians and Muslims say yes but many say no. When God knits us together in the womb does this mean when we are an embryo (many of which abort naturally) or when we become a fetal human at 15 to 16 weeks? Many very sincere Christians and Jews (even Rabbis) say when God breathed into them the breath of life THAT is when they became a living soul. For these people you are not a human being until you take your first breath (this not including the pro-death crowd: assisted suicide, euthanasia, the right to die movement, third trimester and partial birth aborters). in the end people are arguing about something God never condemns. The same God that commanded Joshua to kill every man, woman, and child (including babies) in Jericho. Neither Jesus or the Apostles speak anything about this issue. Why? Think about these things.

 

[MedicBravo]

@GodB4Us It's also why women rarely decide where to eat.

 

[GodB4Us]

Calvinists always misinterpret Psalm 51. They got it from the Roman catholi9c church (Calvin was a partial Augustinian). The "iniquity" does not refer to a shape of him made by God, it refers to the iniquity of his parents lust.

Psalm 58:3 speaks (truthfully) that we all will sin but this should not be read into (eisegesis) to mean babies are born already condemned, that doctrine is just pure evil. Far too many other scriptures would have to be ignored or re-interpreted (which Calvinists seem to do in many places)

I am guessing you are a man so you probably do not know but most conceptions fail and the potential "person" never comes to live. That's nature.

Then that which is not written in the book, will not come to pass as it is evident, meaning no members of the body shall develop when that person is not in God's mind to develop in the womb as written in the book.

Psalm 139:1O lord, thou hast searched me, and known me....
.....13 For thou hast possessed my reins: thou hast covered me in my mother's womb.
14 I will praise thee; for I am fearfully and wonderfully made: marvellous are thy works; and that my soul knoweth right well.
15 My substance was not hid from thee, when I was made in secret, and curiously wrought in the lowest parts of the earth.
16 Thine eyes did see my substance, yet being unperfect; and in thy book all my members were written, which in continuance were fashioned, when as yet there was none of them.
17 How precious also are thy thoughts unto me, O God! how great is the sum of them!

The whole problem people are having politically about abortion is due to the nature of the two extreme views. Does conception equal a human being? Many Christians and Muslims say yes but many say no. When God knits us together in the womb does this mean when we are an embryo (many of which abort naturally) or when we become a fetal human at 15 to 16 weeks? Many very sincere Christians and Jews (even Rabbis) say when God breathed into them the breath of life THAT is when they became a living soul. For these people you are not a human being until you take your first breath (this not including the pro-death crowd: assisted suicide, euthanasia, the right to die movement, third trimester and partial birth aborters). in the end people are arguing about something God never condemns. The same God that commanded Joshua to kill every man, woman, and child (including babies) in Jericho. Neither Jesus or the Apostles speak anything about this issue. Why? Think about these things.

According to Psalm 139 verses, God knew the unborn child before he or she was developed in the womb and therefore killing the unborn child is murder regardless of having taken a breath outside of the womb. There is forgiveness in Christ Jesus for abortion as He has prayed to the Father at His own crucifixion for the Father to forgive them for they know not what they do, but we do have His words for the believers that know of this, to prevent such ignorance of committing this sin.

 

[GodB4Us]

@GodB4Us It's also why women rarely decide where to eat.

Is it because of their indecisiveness?

When I see in entertainment media how fast a woman can change her clothes or get ready, I am thinking science fiction or fantasy at best.

 

[MedicBravo]

@GodB4Us That and 99% of women NEVER give an answer when you ask them where you want to eat.
Ordering in is different.
Considering Eve decided where to eat first and how that turned out all women know the error of doing it.
It's why most women eat off your plate. Your fries are her fries remember?

 

[GodB4Us]

@GodB4Us That and 99% of women NEVER give an answer when you ask them where you want to eat.
Ordering in is different.
Considering Eve decided where to eat first and how that turned out all women know the error of doing it.
It's why most women eat off your plate. Your fries are her fries remember?

That is why smart men order two meals for themselves. *snicker

 

[God's Truth]

The fate of the unborn still had a spirit or it could not have had life to begin with. The spirit of the unborn who died goes to heaven with the Lord.