The Diety of Jesus

[Rxlx]

Jesus is not GOD and GOD is not Jesus:

John 8:48
48;Then answered the Jews, and said unto him, Say we not well that thou art a Samaritan, and hast a devil?

49; Jesus answered, I have not a devil; but I honour my Father, and ye do dishonour me.

 

[KingJ]

Jesus is not GOD and GOD is not Jesus:

John 8:48
48;Then answered the Jews, and said unto him, Say we not well that thou art a Samaritan, and hast a devil?

49; Jesus answered, I have not a devil; but I honour my Father, and ye do dishonour me.

God the Father. God the Son. God the Holy Spirit. Three different Beings, yet one Deity.

Instead of this painful back and forth circular argument and cherry picking of scriptures, please could you take a stab at these questions @Rxlx @Rhema @Butch5 :

1. Is worshipping and praying to Jesus fine for you?

If, Yes, please explain as scripture is crystal clear that there is one God and He is very jealous Exo 34:14. We must have no God's before Him Exo 20:3.

2. Is God just in that He ordained Jesus suffer a cruel and torturous death for sins He did not commit?

If, Yes, please explain. If you state that Jesus was a ransom as some do, please note that that does not answer the question, it is simply moving the goal posts.

3. Do you believe God cannot manifest Himself as three different beings?

If, yes, please explain to me how God came into existence.

4. Was Jesus dumb and lying when He angered the Pharisees all the more by making Himself equal with God? John 5:18

If, No, please explain why.

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You and other non-trinitarians NEED to understand what your belief insinuates. IE You need to 'deal' with the questions above in a way that does not incriminate God. As God is good Psalm 136:1, just Job 34:12 and righteous in all His ways Psalm 145:17 and Jesus did anger the Pharisees all the more when He made Himself equal with God.

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If you do reply, please do so in a logical, easy to read point form. Try avoid coming across as someone who wants to evade and troll. This is a very important topic. Please understand that I am accusing you and other non-trinitarians of heavily incriminating God, mocking Jesus and Christianity.

 

[Rxlx]

Instead of this stupid back and forth why don't you stop calling Jesus a liar!

Can you not read?

'for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.'

Jesus is not GOD and GOD is not Jesus.

 

[Rhema]

Step by step...where in what you quoted from Brother BAC to me, was Trinity even mentioned?

So you think I misunderstood @B-A-C ?? Then why not just say that. We can ask him.

@B-A-C, if you could be so inclined to clarify, when you concluded that -

This is something you absolutely must believe in order to be saved.

Were you referring to the Trinity or not?

These were the verses immediately before your conclusion.

John 5:18 For this cause therefore the Jews were seeking all the more to kill Him, because He not only was breaking the Sabbath, but also was calling God His own Father, making Himself equal with God.

John 5:34 "But the witness which I receive is not from man, but I say these things that you may be saved.

But was it not your intent that "these things" being said were to establish Jesus as part of the Trinity?

My apologies if you somehow hold to the Deity of Jesus (as I do) without adhering to the doctrine of the Trinity.

I see now that you hadn't quoted the typical verse of John 8:24:

I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am, ye shall die in your sins.​

- John 8:24 KJV

But your previous conclusions had been:

God created everything. Jesus created everything. Jesus is God.

Not like God, not half God... God with us.

Before stating that:

his is something you absolutely must believe in order to be saved.

I am forced now to pause any continued conversation with @Christ4Ever until this be clarified. I read that you believe all must believe Jesus is God in order to be saved. Nick seems to think I misunderstood your post.

If you could be so kind,
Rhema

 

[Rhema]

What interests me is the A-Z belief of one who does not believe in the trinity.

i don't believe that really interests you at all. Why? Because you've already arrived at a conclusion.

Christianity only works if the trinity is real.

But maybe that's only your form of Christianity. One with whom others disagree.

Surely they believe God is twisted, evil and unjust .....and are ok with that.

No. We do not. But you are not inclined to take the time to listen and understand why. You keep making these false conclusions, as if you understand it all, which is, again, why I don't believe that you have any interest in the A-Z belief of one who does not believe in the Trinity.

I would love to hear a non-trinitarian post a rational and logical argument for God being just and good when He chose to send an unlucky Being who clearly must have drawn the shortest straw to die a cruel and torturous death for sins He did not commit.

Didn't Jesus directly state:

Saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done.​

- Luke 22:42 KJV

Maybe your "unlucky being" actually volunteered, just like your hypothetical mother, who for the sake of giving birth, volunteered to suffer the associated pain.

But of course an obvious problem here is that if Jesus is God and the Father is God, how could they have separate wills that conflict? This is God in conflict with Himself. (And then agreeing with Himself to kill Himself.)

Throughout all history, millions of people have suffered cruel and torturous deaths for sins they did not commit (nor did they volunteer to suffer).

Respectfully,
Rhema

please could you take a stab at these questions @Rxlx @Rhema @Butch5 :

My concern is that you want easy answers in five words or less. But that's not possible. Maybe if I have the time. But would you pay attention?

And if I did post well reasoned answers, accompanied with supporting scripture, whose to say that Nick just won't DELETE them, like he has done so readily in the past, thereby wasting all of my time?

 

[Rhema]

Please understand that I am accusing you ...

So what?

 

[B-A-C]

Were you referring to the Trinity or not?

I am a trinitarian, but I was specifically addressing the diety of Jesus in that section.

I can't remember if you were a modalist or not.
Question: If you only believe in the diety of Jesus, then does that mean you don't believe in the diety of the Father.

 

[Rxlx]

I am a trinitarian, but I was specifically addressing the diety of Jesus in that section.

I can't remember if you were a modalist or not.
Question: If you only believe in the diety of Jesus, then does that mean you don't believe in the diety of the Father.

Lunacy.

 

[B-A-C]

Lunacy.

1Cor 1:21 For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not come to know God, God was well-pleased through the foolishness of the message preached to save those who believe.
1Cor 3:19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness before God. For it is written, "He is THE ONE WHO CATCHES THE WISE IN THEIR CRAFTINESS";

 

[Rxlx]

1Cor 1:21 For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not come to know God, God was well-pleased through the foolishness of the message preached to save those who believe.
1Cor 3:19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness before God. For it is written, "He is THE ONE WHO CATCHES THE WISE IN THEIR CRAFTINESS";

and you prech a foolish message of Babylonian trinitarianism.

 

[Rhema]

I am a trinitarian, but I was specifically addressing the diety of Jesus in that section.

But does that difference make any difference? (I hadn't thought it would.)

Yet I do appreciate the partial clarification (thank you), but could you be so kind as to confirm your belief that those who do not believe in the Trinity cannot be saved?

I can't remember if you were a modalist or not.

I am not.
I am neither Arian, Trinitarian, nor Sabellian.
I'm somethin' else.

Question: If you only believe in the diety of Jesus, then does that mean you don't believe in the diety of the Father.

Odd question, but I wouldn't think so. I've always believed in the deity of the Father. If one's Father in Heaven is not God, then we've really run the dictionary through the shreader.

Grace be to you and peace from God the Father, and from our Lord Jesus Christ,​

(Galatians 1:3 KJV)

But why didn't Paul settle things by writing, "and from our Lord Jesus Christ, God the Son.?"

But I do hold to certain elements of Exaltation Christology.

Exaltation Christology in an Early Creed | The Bart Ehrman Blog

So far in this series of posts dealing with How Jesus Became God, I have maintained that in the very early years of Christianity, soon after the disciples came to believe in the resurrection, there were two forms of Christology that emerged. And I have discussed only one of these…

ehrmanblog.org

(My apologies that it turns into a commercial.)

Rhema

 

[Christ4Ever]

Step by step...where in what you quoted from Brother BAC to me, was Trinity even mentioned?

So you think I misunderstood @B-A-C ?? Then why not just say that. We can ask him.

@B-A-C, if you could be so inclined to clarify, when you concluded that -

You presented something that was not in evidence. If you had wanted it to be about the Trinity, then you should have included as part of that quote what he had referenced that included the Trinity. I took the quote for what it was, and did not extrapolate it as you did in your reply to me to include something that was not evident in the words used by Brother BAC that you quoted.

This is something you absolutely must believe in order to be saved.

Were you referring to the Trinity or not?

These were the verses immediately before your conclusion.

I don't care what he answers to this. You were erroneous in your reply back to me, and now only seek to obfuscate your mistake with including evidence you did not include initially. Stop it.

John 5:18 For this cause therefore the Jews were seeking all the more to kill Him, because He not only was breaking the Sabbath, but also was calling God His own Father, making Himself equal with God.

John 5:34 "But the witness which I receive is not from man, but I say these things that you may be saved.

But was it not your intent that "these things" being said were to establish Jesus as part of the Trinity?

My apologies if you somehow hold to the Deity of Jesus (as I do) without adhering to the doctrine of the Trinity.

I see now that you hadn't quoted the typical verse of John 8:24:
I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am, ye shall die in your sins.- John 8:24 KJV

But your previous conclusions had been:

God created everything. Jesus created everything. Jesus is God.

Not like God, not half God... God with us.

Before stating that:

his is something you absolutely must believe in order to be saved.

I am forced now to pause any continued conversation with @Christ4Ever until this be clarified. I read that you believe all must believe Jesus is God in order to be saved. Nick seems to think I misunderstood your post.

Regardless of Brother BAC's response to the questions you posed to him, it is irrelevant to your reply to me based on what you quoted. You were mistaken and are now asking these questions of Brother BAC to absolve yourself for not providing a more comprehensive quote initially. Had you done so, I probably would have altered my response to you, if I addressed it at all.

The devil is a deceiver, brother. Do not let your pride prevent you from recognizing and acknowledging your mistakes as any Godly man would do.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
\o/
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[KingJ]

So what?

So what to implying we must not 1. serve Jesus as God is jealous, 2. that God is demented and unjust to expect a being to volunteer to die a cruel death as a lamb to the slaughter for people He did not create or sin He did not commit, 3. That Jesus is dumb for making Himself equal with God.

At least you outright evade. You don't try hide it as others do .

 

[KingJ]

i don't believe that really interests you at all. Why? Because you've already arrived at a conclusion.

But maybe that's only your form of Christianity. One with whom others disagree.


No. We do not. But you are not inclined to take the time to listen and understand why. You keep making these false conclusions, as if you understand it all, which is, again, why I don't believe that you have any interest in the A-Z belief of one who does not believe in the Trinity.

I have no time to respond to waffling.

Didn't Jesus directly state:

Saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done.​

- Luke 22:42 KJV

Maybe your "unlucky being" actually volunteered, just like your hypothetical mother, who for the sake of giving birth, volunteered to suffer the associated pain.

But of course an obvious problem here is that if Jesus is God and the Father is God, how could they have separate wills that conflict? This is God in conflict with Himself. (And then agreeing with Himself to kill Himself.)

Throughout all history, millions of people have suffered cruel and torturous deaths for sins they did not commit (nor did they volunteer to suffer).

Respectfully,
Rhema

Not sure if you and @Butch5 are able to provide a rational response to a rational accusation.

Please 'try' grasp that the death of Jesus does not incriminate Him, it incriminates God.

Please 'try' grasp why I say that. I will give you an example and you tell me if you think this is the workings of a good, righteous and just Father.

Let's say you made a gun (mankind).and knew that the gun would get no sales unless it was known to have killed someone (nobody would go to heaven unless Jesus was '''''ransomed'', '''punished'', ''paid penalty for sin'', ''volunteered'' pick whatever words you want). You give the gun to a person called lucifer. Let's say a criminal gang leader of a Mexican cartel. You chose your innocent daughter as the victim (Jesus was sinless and He was chosen Eph 1:4). Knowing that by choosing Lucifer your daughter would not just be shot but tortured and then shot. And you would not come to her aid even though she does try to call you and ask for help. (Jesus was sent as a lamb to the slaughter, He was abandoned, beaten and crucified). Do you think anyone on this planet with a working brain would think of you as a good, righteous and loving father? Yes or No answer please.

My concern is that you want easy answers in five words or less. But that's not possible. Maybe if I have the time. But would you pay attention?

I typed very simple accusations. A reply can be equally simple. For example.

''No, I do not believe we must serve Jesus as God is jealous''

But I understand why you, @Butch5 and @Rxlx cannot give direct lines as I have.

 

[KingJ]

Instead of this stupid back and forth why don't you stop calling Jesus a liar!

Can you not read?

'for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.'

Can you not read?

1. Isaiah 9:6 For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
2. John 5:18 Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.
3. John 10:30 I and the Father are one.
4. John 8:58 Jesus answered, “I tell you the truth, before Abraham was even born, I Am!
5. John 10:38 But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him.
6. John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.

Then, there are many scriptures linking Jesus to the Messiah and the Messiah to God.

The Messiah would be The LORD/YAHWEH our Righteousness

Jeremiah 23:5-6 'The days are coming,” declares the LORD, “when I will raise up to David a righteous Branch, a King who will reign wisely
and do what is just and right in the land. In his days Judah will be saved and Israel will live in safety. This is the name by which he will be called: The LORD Our Righteousness.

The Messiah has been from the days of eternity

Mic 5:2 "But as for you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, Too little to be among the clans of Judah, From you One will go forth for Me to be ruler in Israel. His goings forth are from long ago, From the days of eternity."

The Messiah would be the Son of God

Psa 2:6-9 "But as for Me, I have installed My King Upon Zion, My holy mountain." (7) "I will surely tell of the decree of the Lord: He said to Me, 'You are My Son, Today I have begotten You. (8) 'Ask of Me, and I will surely give the nations as Your inheritance, And the very ends of the earth as Your possession. (9) 'You shall break them with a rod of iron, You shall shatter them like earthenware.'"

A virgin would give birth to one who is 'God with us'

Isa 7:14 "Therefore the Lord Himself will give you a sign: Behold, a virgin will be with child and bear a son, and she will call His name Immanuel.

David's lord is both a priest and a king and at the right hand of Yahweh

Psa 110:1-6 A Psalm of David. The Lord says to my Lord: "Sit at My right hand Until I make Your enemies a footstool for Your feet." (2) The Lord will stretch forth Your strong scepter from Zion, saying, "Rule in the midst of Your enemies." (3) Your people will volunteer freely in the day of Your power; In holy array, from the womb of the dawn, Your youth are to You as the dew. (4) The LORD has sworn and will not change His mind, "You are a priest forever According to the order of Melchizedek." (5) The Lord is at Your right hand; He will shatter kings in the day of His wrath. (6) He will judge among the nations, He will fill them with corpses, He will shatter the chief men over a broad country.

God has a Son and asks you what His name is!

Pro 30:4 Who has ascended into heaven and descended? Who has gathered the wind in His fists? Who has wrapped the waters in His garment? Who has established all the ends of the earth? What is His name or His son's name? Surely you know!

God has a God!

Psa 45:6-7 Your throne, O God, is forever and ever; A scepter of uprightness is the scepter of Your kingdom. (7) You have loved righteousness and hated wickedness; Therefore God, Your God, has anointed You With the oil of joy above Your fellows.

Yahweh is spoken of two different personalities

Hos 1:6-7 Then she conceived again and gave birth to a daughter. And the LORD said to him, "Name her Lo-ruhamah, for I will no longer have compassion on the house of Israel, that I would ever forgive them. (7) "But I will have compassion on the house of Judah and deliver them by the Lord their God, and will not deliver them by bow, sword, battle, horses or horsemen."

Yahweh will live amongst us, and Yahweh will send Him!

Zech 2:10-11 Shout and be glad, O Daughter of Zion. For I am coming, and I will live among you,” declares the Lord. “Many nations will be joined with the Lord in that day and will become my people. I will live among you and you will know that the Lord Almighty has sent me to you.’

What Bible verses say the Messiah would be God?

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Jesus is not GOD and GOD is not Jesus.

1 Cor 12:3 Therefore I want you to know that no one who is speaking by the Spirit of God says, “Jesus be cursed,” and no one can say, “Jesus is Lord,” except by the Holy Spirit.

According to this verse, not knowing that Jesus is Lord, is evidence of not having the Holy Spirit.

And, according to Rom 10:9 not a Christian.

Rom 10:9 If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.

 

[bdavidc]

If you say Jesus is GOD then you are also saying Mary is the mother of GOD as the pagan Catholics do.

Jesus is not GOD and GOD is not Jesus.

The Bible clearly teaches that Jesus is God, and this truth does not necessitate the unbiblical idea that Mary is the "mother of God" in the sense that she is the originator of His divine nature. Scripture affirms that Jesus is fully God and fully man (John 1:1, 14; Colossians 2:9). As the eternal Word, He existed before Mary and all creation, being one with the Father (John 10:30). Mary was chosen by God to bear Jesus in His human nature, but she did not give birth to His divine nature, which is eternal. The phrase "mother of God" is misleading because it suggests she has authority over God or that she originated Him, which is contrary to biblical truth. The Bible clearly distinguishes between Jesus' divine nature, which is from eternity, and His human nature, which took on flesh through Mary (Philippians 2:6-8). Therefore, while Mary was the mother of Jesus in His humanity, she was not the mother of God in the sense of being the source of His divinity. Jesus is God, as affirmed by Scripture, yet He remains distinct from the Father while sharing the same divine essence.

 

[Butch5]

The Bible clearly teaches that Jesus is God, and this truth does not necessitate the unbiblical idea that Mary is the "mother of God" in the sense that she is the originator of His divine nature. Scripture affirms that Jesus is fully God and fully man (John 1:1, 14; Colossians 2:9). As the eternal Word, He existed before Mary and all creation, being one with the Father (John 10:30). Mary was chosen by God to bear Jesus in His human nature, but she did not give birth to His divine nature, which is eternal. The phrase "mother of God" is misleading because it suggests she has authority over God or that she originated Him, which is contrary to biblical truth. The Bible clearly distinguishes between Jesus' divine nature, which is from eternity, and His human nature, which took on flesh through Mary (Philippians 2:6-8). Therefore, while Mary was the mother of Jesus in His humanity, she was not the mother of God in the sense of being the source of His divinity. Jesus is God, as affirmed by Scripture, yet He remains distinct from the Father while sharing the same divine essence.

How is it possible to be fully God and fully man at the same time? How can someone be fully two different things at the same time?

 

[Butch5]

The biggest problem in this debate is people equivocating concerning the word god. At times the same person uses the word god in two different senses. This is also one of the reasons why it's hard to nail down a person's belief. It's because when something doesn't fit one's theology they simply jump to the other definition of God.

Example. John is a doctor so you can go see him if you're sick. But actually, John is a Doctor of Philosophy. The word doctor is being used in two different senses. It's the same with this doctrine. At times the word God is used of Persons and other times it's used of essence. People jump back and forth between the two.

The problem with this is that the word God in the Bible isn't used of an essence. It's used of beings, persons. The word God/god always refers to a being. Whether it's the True God, Jesus, or false gods, which the Scriptures tell us are demons. But it doesn't refer to an essence or substance.
Whenever the Bible uses the word God without a qualification it is a reference to the Father. When the Bible say, God created the Heavens and the Earth, it's referring to the Father, a being.

Since the word God/god is not used of an essence in Scripture the Trintiy doctrine cannot be argued from Scripture. There are two options the doctrine has to explain itself. Either there is one being who consists of three other beings, which is impossible or there is one God essence that consists of the three persons. The first option is impossible, and the second option has two major problems. The first is that the Scriptures don't use the word God as an essence. The second one is that if God/god is an essence, then it must also include the pagan gods because the Bible calls them god too.

 

[bdavidc]

How is it possible to be fully God and fully man at the same time? How can someone be fully two different things at the same time?

The mystery of Jesus being fully God and fully man is a profound truth revealed in Scripture, though it surpasses human understanding. The Bible teaches that Jesus, the eternal Son of God, took on human nature while remaining fully divine (John 1:1, 14; Colossians 2:9). This is known as the hypostatic union, meaning that in one person, Christ has two distinct natures—divine and human—without mixture, confusion, or division. Just as God’s ways are higher than human ways (Isaiah 55:8-9), this truth cannot be fully grasped by human reasoning alone but is accepted by faith. Jesus’ divine nature means He possesses all the attributes of God—eternality, omniscience, and omnipotence—while His human nature allowed Him to experience hunger, fatigue, and even death (Hebrews 4:15; Philippians 2:6-8). Though difficult to comprehend, this dual nature was necessary for salvation; only a sinless man could be the perfect sacrifice for sin, and only God could bear the weight of humanity’s sin and conquer death (2 Corinthians 5:21; Hebrews 2:14-17). Therefore, while the concept is beyond human experience, it is entirely possible because it is a work of God, and with Him, all things are possible (Luke 1:37).

God is infinitely greater than humanity in every way, possessing perfect wisdom, power, and sovereignty that far exceed human limitations. Scripture reminds us that His ways and thoughts are higher than ours (Isaiah 55:8-9), and He alone has the authority to govern all things according to His perfect will. Unlike human beings, who are finite, fallible, and dependent, God is eternal, all-knowing, and completely self-sufficient (Psalm 90:2; Romans 11:33-36). He created and sustains all things, while we, as His creation, are entirely reliant on Him for life, breath, and purpose (Acts 17:25-28). Acknowledging this truth leads to humility and trust, recognizing that He alone is worthy of worship, obedience, and faith.

 

[bdavidc]

The biggest problem in this debate is people equivocating concerning the word god. At times the same person uses the word god in two different senses. This is also one of the reasons why it's hard to nail down a person's belief. It's because when something doesn't fit one's theology they simply jump to the other definition of God.

Example. John is a doctor so you can go see him if you're sick. But actually, John is a Doctor of Philosophy. The word doctor is being used in two different senses. It's the same with this doctrine. At times the word God is used of Persons and other times it's used of essence. People jump back and forth between the two.

The problem with this is that the word God in the Bible isn't used of an essence. It's used of beings, persons. The word God/god always refers to a being. Whether it's the True God, Jesus, or false gods, which the Scriptures tell us are demons. But it doesn't refer to an essence or substance.
Whenever the Bible uses the word God without a qualification it is a reference to the Father. When the Bible say, God created the Heavens and the Earth, it's referring to the Father, a being.

Since the word God/god is not used of an essence in Scripture the Trintiy doctrine cannot be argued from Scripture. There are two options the doctrine has to explain itself. Either there is one being who consists of three other beings, which is impossible or there is one God essence that consists of the three persons. The first option is impossible, and the second option has two major problems. The first is that the Scriptures don't use the word God as an essence. The second one is that if God/god is an essence, then it must also include the pagan gods because the Bible calls them god too.

The argument presented here misunderstands the biblical use of the term "God" and the doctrine of the Trinity. Scripture does not limit the word "God" to a singular person but instead reveals that the one true God exists as three distinct persons—Father, Son, and Holy Spirit—who share the same divine essence. While the Bible often refers to the Father as "God" in a specific sense, it also clearly applies the term to Jesus (John 1:1; John 20:28; Titus 2:13) and the Holy Spirit (Acts 5:3-4). The assertion that the term "God" must always refer to a singular being or person is an oversimplification that does not account for the full biblical revelation.

Furthermore, while it is true that Scripture primarily refers to God in a personal sense, it also speaks of His divine nature (or essence). For example, Colossians 2:9 states that in Christ "the fullness of deity dwells bodily," indicating that divinity is something shared rather than confined to one person alone. Additionally, John 1:1 makes a distinction between "the Word" (Jesus) and "God" (the Father) while affirming that the Word is also fully God. The doctrine of the Trinity does not require redefining "God" but rather acknowledges how Scripture reveals Him—as one divine being eternally existing in three persons.

The claim that calling God an "essence" would also apply to pagan gods misunderstands biblical language. The Bible calls idols "gods" (1 Corinthians 8:5) not to affirm their divinity but to recognize that they are worshiped as such by people, even though they are false. The one true God is unique and incomparable (Isaiah 46:9), and His divine essence is not something shared with idols or demons. The doctrine of the Trinity remains firmly rooted in Scripture, not in philosophical speculation, and faithfully represents the full biblical teaching on God's nature.