The 29 conversion accounts in the book of Acts

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29 conversion accounts in the book of Acts .
Sometimes there's laying on of hands .
Sometimes its baptism included, sometimes not .
Sometimes tongues, sometimes not .
Sometimes repentence, sometimes just 'believe '.
Why do some say Acts 2.38 is the plan of salvation for today ? Why pick any of the 29 conversion accounts and claim that for todays doctrines .
Acts is a transitional book .
Thoughts ?

 

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The book of Acts is history and gives accounts of many individual stories.
Having established the template for Christian salvation in five major accounts there was no need by Luke to record the minutia details of all 29 conversion accounts (I have not as yet checked your number claimed).
So for example with Paul's conversion emphasises water baptism, but with no reference to speaking in tongues. But later in the epistles Paul makes it very clear to us that he does indeed speak in tongues like all other Christians.
Having established that Acts 2:38-39 is the gospel of salvation and then giving five examples (from memory) upholding this then the "formula" preached by Jesus himself is revealed.

Often people will take specific verses and declare 'look see' here they did not get baptised or here they did not speak in tongues. such an approach is deliberate denial of the integrity of scripture and the gospel message.
For people would rather apply their own denominational doctrines of men upon scripture to validate their refusal to submit to all of scripture.
Take the example of the Philippian jailer -
Acts 16:29 And he called for lights and sprang in, and, trembling for fear, fell down before Paul and Silas, 30 and brought them out and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?
31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus, and THOU shalt be saved and thy household. 32 And they spake the word of God to him, with all those in his house.
No water baptism and no Holy Spirit baptism so it is not necessary to be like the first century church > Pentecostal, but rather just believe (whatever that is).
But is this what Luke is really writing to all who will read his book?
Acts 16:32 And they spoke the word of the Lord to him and to all who were in his house. - seems like Acts 2:38-39 and Acts 10 were expounded.

There cannot be multiple choices for the gospel of salvation - there are not many paths to God - there is only one way to enter the kingdom of God/heaven while a disciple is still living on Earth -
Acts 2:38 And Peter said to them, "Repent and be baptized [full immersion], each one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
[with Bible sign of speaking in tongues]
Acts 2:39 For the promise is for you and for your children, and for all those who are far away, as many as the Lord our God calls to himself."

 

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Why pick any of the 29 conversion accounts and claim that for todays doctrines

Because people want to believe in the cessation of the Spirit-filled church and prefer the teachings of the Popes down through the centuries rather than to become true worshippers by the Spirit of Christ -
Even to the point that many Christians deny the truth of scripture:

Mark 16:14 And afterward he was manifested to the eleven themselves as they sat at meat; and he rebuked their unbelief and hardness of heart, because they believed not them that had seen him risen from the dead.
16:15 And he [Jesus] said to them, Go into all the world, and preach the gospel to the whole creation.
16:16 Who hath believed and is baptized shall be saved; but who hath disbelieved shall be condemned.
16:17 And these signs shall follow them that have believed: in my name shall they cast out demons, speak with tongues;
16:18 and in their hands they shall take up serpents, and if they drink aught deadly, it shall in now wise hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.
16:19 So then the Lord Jesus, after he had spoken to them, was taken up into heaven, and sat down at the right hand of God.
16:20 And THEY went forth, and preached everywhere, the Lord working with them, and confirming the word by the signs that followed.

When I was a practicing Roman Catholic I was challenged by these verses and many others pertaining to the giving of the Holy Spirit and water baptism.
After much prayer to Jesus about 'are these scriptures true and is this the way,' Jesus moved mightily in my life and I submitted to the gospel.
I was baptised in water for the forgiveness of my sins, and then I went on to pray for the gift of the Holy Spirit and 30 days later I burst forth speaking in tongues.
I knew that Jesus is God, that Jesus is my Saviour, that God was now abiding in me. I also received a wonderful revelation about the Bible being written by God unto salvation.
Mark 16 is alive and true and valid - healings, miracles, blessings - praying in the Holy Spirit is praying in tongues.

 

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The book of Acts is history and gives accounts of many individual stories.
Having established the template for Christian salvation in five major accounts there was no need by Luke to record the minutia details of all 29 conversion accounts (I have not as yet checked your number claimed).
So for example with Paul's conversion emphasises water baptism, but with no reference to speaking in tongues. But later in the epistles Paul makes it very clear to us that he does indeed speak in tongues like all other Christians.
Having established that Acts 2:38-39 is the gospel of salvation and then giving five examples (from memory) upholding this then the "formula" preached by Jesus himself is revealed.

Often people will take specific verses and declare 'look see' here they did not get baptised or here they did not speak in tongues. such an approach is deliberate denial of the integrity of scripture and the gospel message.
For people would rather apply their own denominational doctrines of men upon scripture to validate their refusal to submit to all of scripture.
Take the example of the Philippian jailer -
Acts 16:29 And he called for lights and sprang in, and, trembling for fear, fell down before Paul and Silas, 30 and brought them out and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?
31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus, and THOU shalt be saved and thy household. 32 And they spake the word of God to him, with all those in his house.
No water baptism and no Holy Spirit baptism so it is not necessary to be like the first century church > Pentecostal, but rather just believe (whatever that is).
But is this what Luke is really writing to all who will read his book?
Acts 16:32 And they spoke the word of the Lord to him and to all who were in his house. - seems like Acts 2:38-39 and Acts 10 were expounded.

There cannot be multiple choices for the gospel of salvation - there are not many paths to God - there is only one way to enter the kingdom of God/heaven while a disciple is still living on Earth -
Acts 2:38 And Peter said to them, "Repent and be baptized [full immersion], each one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
[with Bible sign of speaking in tongues]
Acts 2:39 For the promise is for you and for your children, and for all those who are far away, as many as the Lord our God calls to himself."

Why would you pick Acts 2 .38 ( Chapter number 2 in a book of 28 chapters) as any plan for salvation for today, is my point. Notice there's no Gentiles until 10 years later ( Acts 11 ,Cornelius) being preached to . Notice Peter is addressing Israel specifically about what they did. Notice they ask ' what must we do " . Unlike the Jailer . He asks what must I do to BE SAVED . Big difference. Then look at Acts 2 .38 . It literally says be baptised then they will recieve the Holy Spirit . This is not how a person recieves the Holy spirit today. Neither is it through the laying on of hands. Acts is a record of transitions.

 

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The book of Acts is history and gives accounts of many individual stories.
Having established the template for Christian salvation in five major accounts there was no need by Luke to record the minutia details of all 29 conversion accounts (I have not as yet checked your number claimed).
So for example with Paul's conversion emphasises water baptism, but with no reference to speaking in tongues. But later in the epistles Paul makes it very clear to us that he does indeed speak in tongues like all other Christians.
Having established that Acts 2:38-39 is the gospel of salvation and then giving five examples (from memory) upholding this then the "formula" preached by Jesus himself is revealed.

Often people will take specific verses and declare 'look see' here they did not get baptised or here they did not speak in tongues. such an approach is deliberate denial of the integrity of scripture and the gospel message.
For people would rather apply their own denominational doctrines of men upon scripture to validate their refusal to submit to all of scripture.
Take the example of the Philippian jailer -
Acts 16:29 And he called for lights and sprang in, and, trembling for fear, fell down before Paul and Silas, 30 and brought them out and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?
31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus, and THOU shalt be saved and thy household. 32 And they spake the word of God to him, with all those in his house.
No water baptism and no Holy Spirit baptism so it is not necessary to be like the first century church > Pentecostal, but rather just believe (whatever that is).
But is this what Luke is really writing to all who will read his book?
Acts 16:32 And they spoke the word of the Lord to him and to all who were in his house. - seems like Acts 2:38-39 and Acts 10 were expounded.

There cannot be multiple choices for the gospel of salvation - there are not many paths to God - there is only one way to enter the kingdom of God/heaven while a disciple is still living on Earth -
Acts 2:38 And Peter said to them, "Repent and be baptized [full immersion], each one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
[with Bible sign of speaking in tongues]
Acts 2:39 For the promise is for you and for your children, and for all those who are far away, as many as the Lord our God calls to himself."

Acts 2.39 is to Their children . Who's children ?

 

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The book of Acts is history and gives accounts of many individual stories.
Having established the template for Christian salvation in five major accounts there was no need by Luke to record the minutia details of all 29 conversion accounts (I have not as yet checked your number claimed).
So for example with Paul's conversion emphasises water baptism, but with no reference to speaking in tongues. But later in the epistles Paul makes it very clear to us that he does indeed speak in tongues like all other Christians.
Having established that Acts 2:38-39 is the gospel of salvation and then giving five examples (from memory) upholding this then the "formula" preached by Jesus himself is revealed.

Often people will take specific verses and declare 'look see' here they did not get baptised or here they did not speak in tongues. such an approach is deliberate denial of the integrity of scripture and the gospel message.
For people would rather apply their own denominational doctrines of men upon scripture to validate their refusal to submit to all of scripture.
Take the example of the Philippian jailer -
Acts 16:29 And he called for lights and sprang in, and, trembling for fear, fell down before Paul and Silas, 30 and brought them out and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?
31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus, and THOU shalt be saved and thy household. 32 And they spake the word of God to him, with all those in his house.
No water baptism and no Holy Spirit baptism so it is not necessary to be like the first century church > Pentecostal, but rather just believe (whatever that is).
But is this what Luke is really writing to all who will read his book?
Acts 16:32 And they spoke the word of the Lord to him and to all who were in his house. - seems like Acts 2:38-39 and Acts 10 were expounded.

There cannot be multiple choices for the gospel of salvation - there are not many paths to God - there is only one way to enter the kingdom of God/heaven while a disciple is still living on Earth -
Acts 2:38 And Peter said to them, "Repent and be baptized [full immersion], each one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
[with Bible sign of speaking in tongues]
Acts 2:39 For the promise is for you and for your children, and for all those who are far away, as many as the Lord our God calls to himself."

You said " Having established the template for Christian salvation in five major accounts" Which verse says that there are 5 major accounts , established the template ect , which verse tells us this is the case ?

 

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The book of Acts is history and gives accounts of many individual stories.
Having established the template for Christian salvation in five major accounts there was no need by Luke to record the minutia details of all 29 conversion accounts (I have not as yet checked your number claimed).
So for example with Paul's conversion emphasises water baptism, but with no reference to speaking in tongues. But later in the epistles Paul makes it very clear to us that he does indeed speak in tongues like all other Christians.
Having established that Acts 2:38-39 is the gospel of salvation and then giving five examples (from memory) upholding this then the "formula" preached by Jesus himself is revealed.

Often people will take specific verses and declare 'look see' here they did not get baptised or here they did not speak in tongues. such an approach is deliberate denial of the integrity of scripture and the gospel message.
For people would rather apply their own denominational doctrines of men upon scripture to validate their refusal to submit to all of scripture.
Take the example of the Philippian jailer -
Acts 16:29 And he called for lights and sprang in, and, trembling for fear, fell down before Paul and Silas, 30 and brought them out and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?
31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus, and THOU shalt be saved and thy household. 32 And they spake the word of God to him, with all those in his house.
No water baptism and no Holy Spirit baptism so it is not necessary to be like the first century church > Pentecostal, but rather just believe (whatever that is).
But is this what Luke is really writing to all who will read his book?
Acts 16:32 And they spoke the word of the Lord to him and to all who were in his house. - seems like Acts 2:38-39 and Acts 10 were expounded.

There cannot be multiple choices for the gospel of salvation - there are not many paths to God - there is only one way to enter the kingdom of God/heaven while a disciple is still living on Earth -
Acts 2:38 And Peter said to them, "Repent and be baptized [full immersion], each one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
[with Bible sign of speaking in tongues]
Acts 2:39 For the promise is for you and for your children, and for all those who are far away, as many as the Lord our God calls to himself."

You said //Having established that Acts 2:38-39 is the gospel of salvation // How and why ? Its at the beginning of a book of 28 chapters with transitions running all the way through. I don't believe we should pick anything in the book of Acts as the plan of salvation for today.

 

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Notice there's no Gentiles until 10 years later ( Acts 11 ,Cornelius) being preached to

Why do you claim 10 years difference between the day of Pentecost and Cornelius? where is that in scripture?
I think you will find it to be about 3½ years later.

 

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Why do you claim 10 years difference between the day of Pentecost and Cornelius? where is that in scripture?
I think you will find it to be about 3½ years later.

That's the time frame from Acts 2 to Acts 11 .

 

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It literally says be baptised then they will receive the Holy Spirit . This is not how a person receives the Holy spirit today. Neither is it through the laying on of hands. Acts is a record of transitions.

NO scripture does not declare this - again peoples are reading into scripture what they prefer to believe and accept.
And today believers are experiencing the truth of Mark 16 and true worshippers do speak in new tongues when they receive the indwelling Holy Spirit.
God has not given to the world 4,000 gospels of choice.

 

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Why do you claim 10 years difference between the day of Pentecost and Cornelius? where is that in scripture?
I think you will find it to be about 3½ years later.

Saul returns to preach in Damascus · Saul’s life is threatened (Ac.9:23) · Saul escapes to Jerusalem · Barnabus introduces Saul to disciples · Saul stays with Peter 15 days (Gal.1:18-19) · Saul debates Grecian Jews (Ac.9:29) · Saul flees to Tarsus in Cilicia (Ac.9:29,30)	​	​
39​	· Saul preaches in Cilicia and Syria for five years (Gal.1:21) · Persecution has ceased in Jerusalem · Jerusalem church continues to grow (Ac.9:31) · Peter travels Judean Countryside (Ac.9:32) · Peter heals Aeneas in Lydda (Ac.9:33) · Peter raises Tabitha in Joppa (Ac.9:36) · Peter called to Caesarea by Cornelius (A.10)	​	​
40​	· Peter has to defend having preached in a Gentile house to the church leaders in Jerusalem. (Ac.11) · Missionaries from Cyrene in North Africa come to Antioch in Syria and preach to the Gentiles (Ac.11:20) · Saul is preaching in Cilicia and Syria

 

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NO scripture does not declare this - again peoples are reading into scripture what they prefer to believe and accept.
And today believers are experiencing the truth of Mark 16 and true worshippers do speak in new tongues when they receive the indwelling Holy Spirit.
God has not given to the world 4,000 gospels of choice.

Mark 16 is still Israel .

 

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You said " Having established the template for Christian salvation in five major accounts" Which verse says that there are 5 major accounts , established the template etc, which verse tells us this is the case ?

OK here is one
Acts 10:40 HIM [Jesus] God raised the third day, and gave him to be made manifest,
10:41 not to all the people, but to witnesses chosen before of God, to us, who ate and drank with him after he rose from the dead.
10:42 And he [Jesus] charged us to preach to the people, and to testify that this is he ordained of God as Judge of living and dead.
10:43 To him all the prophets witness, that through his name every one that believeth unto him receiveth remission of sins.
10:44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Spirit fell on all that heard the word.
10:45 And they of the circumcision that believed were amazed, who came with Peter, because that on the nations also was poured out the gift of the Holy Spirit.
10:46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,
10:47 Can anyone forbid the water, that these should not be baptized, who have received the Holy Spirit as well as we?
10:48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. Then asked they him to tarry certain days.

 

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OK here is one
Acts 10:40 HIM [Jesus] God raised the third day, and gave him to be made manifest,
10:41 not to all the people, but to witnesses chosen before of God, to us, who ate and drank with him after he rose from the dead.
10:42 And he [Jesus] charged us to preach to the people, and to testify that this is he ordained of God as Judge of living and dead.
10:43 To him all the prophets witness, that through his name every one that believeth unto him receiveth remission of sins.
10:44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Spirit fell on all that heard the word.
10:45 And they of the circumcision that believed were amazed, who came with Peter, because that on the nations also was poured out the gift of the Holy Spirit.
10:46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,
10:47 Can anyone forbid the water, that these should not be baptized, who have received the Holy Spirit as well as we?
10:48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. Then asked they him to tarry certain days.

One what ? And which verse says this is number 1 ?

 

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OK here is one
Acts 10:40 HIM [Jesus] God raised the third day, and gave him to be made manifest,
10:41 not to all the people, but to witnesses chosen before of God, to us, who ate and drank with him after he rose from the dead.
10:42 And he [Jesus] charged us to preach to the people, and to testify that this is he ordained of God as Judge of living and dead.
10:43 To him all the prophets witness, that through his name every one that believeth unto him receiveth remission of sins.
10:44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Spirit fell on all that heard the word.
10:45 And they of the circumcision that believed were amazed, who came with Peter, because that on the nations also was poured out the gift of the Holy Spirit.
10:46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,
10:47 Can anyone forbid the water, that these should not be baptized, who have received the Holy Spirit as well as we?
10:48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. Then asked they him to tarry certain days.

Why not go to a place in scripture where salvation is explained as a settled doctrine? Eph 1.13 , 1 cor 15,1-4 , Rom 10.9 -15 as just a few examples?

 

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Acts is a record of transitions.

Transition to what > Mystery Babylon? Cessationism? Papacy? Unbelief? Denominational Christianity? Churches without the Holy Spirit?

 

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Why not go to a place in scripture where salvation is explained as a settled doctrine? Eph 1.13 , 1 cor 15,1-4 , Rom 10.9 -15 as just a few examples?

You and others do greatly err in your handling of scriptures. None of these scriptures deny Acts and the gospels.
Integrity of doctrine is paramount to the truth of the Word of God - the first church written of in the gospels, experienced in Acts and taught of in the epistles is Pentecostal
repentance from dead works to faith and believing the gospel
water baptism by full immersion for the forgiveness of sins
Holy Spirit baptism with the Bible evidence of speaking in tongues
walking in the Spirit > bearing the fruit of the Spirit
becoming overcomers in the power of God - living testimonies
miracles, provision, healings, blessings, signs that prove the gospel preached by Jesus and the apostles as true.

 

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Acts 8:12 But when they believed Philip preaching good tidings concerning the kingdom of God and the name of Jesus Christ, both men and women were baptized.
8:13 And Simon himself also believed: and being baptized, he continued with Philip; and beholding signs done and great miracles, he was amazed.
8:14 Now when the apostles, those at Jerusalem, heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent unto them Peter and John:
8:15 who, when they were come down, prayed for them, that they receive the Holy Spirit:
8:16 for as yet He was fallen upon none of them: only they had been baptized into the name of the Lord Jesus.
8:17 Then laid they their hands on them, and they received the Holy Spirit.

 

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You and others do greatly err in your handling of scriptures. None of these scriptures deny Acts and the gospels.
Integrity of doctrine is paramount to the truth of the Word of God - the first church written of in the gospels, experienced in Acts and taught of in the epistles is Pentecostal
repentance from dead works to faith and believing the gospel
water baptism by full immersion for the forgiveness of sins
Holy Spirit baptism with the Bible evidence of speaking in tongues
walking in the Spirit > bearing the fruit of the Spirit
becoming overcomers in the power of God - living testimonies
miracles, provision, healings, blessings, signs that prove the gospel preached by Jesus and the apostles as true.

Which verse says that in Paul's letters ? It looks like you maybe reading that into pauls letters from Acts .

 

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Act 19:1 And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper regions came to Ephesus, and found certain disciples:
Act 19:2 and he said unto them, Whether ye received the Holy Spirit when ye believed? And they said unto him, Nay, we did not so much as hear whether there is a Holy Spirit.
Act 19:3 And he said, Into what then were ye baptized? And they said, Into the baptism of John.
Act 19:4 And Paul said, John baptized a baptism of repentance, saying to the people that they should believe unto him that should come after him, that is, unto Jesus.
Act 19:5 And when they heard this, they were baptized into the name of the Lord Jesus.
Act 19:6 And when Paul had laid hands upon them, the Holy Spirit came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.
Act 19:7 And they were in all about twelve men.

Still happening today -