the 144 thousand

[kevinlb63]

revelation 14
4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins.
These are they which follow the Lamb whither soever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men,
being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb. quote the women! is the church of men!!!! i think it is the churches of today teaching false doctrin,,,,,,and thay are many!!!!!! and one of the churches that is referd to as a momen is the church of rome !!! and thay are in the us to.

and a question! do you think jesus will touch the earth????? when he come back.

 

[MightyAngel1]

revelation 14
4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins.
These are they which follow the Lamb whither soever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men,
being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb. quote the women! is the church of men!!!! i think it is the churches of today teaching false doctrin,,,,,,and thay are many!!!!!! and one of the churches that is referd to as a momen is the church of rome !!! and thay are in the us to.

and a question! do you think jesus will touch the earth????? when he come back.

Howdy Kevinlb63!

Yes, Jesus Christ will touch the earth when He returns. The Bible says the following in Zechariah 14:3-4...

Zechariah 14:3 Then shall the Lord go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.

Zechariah 14:4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.

God Bless You!

Dr. Mike

 

[kevinlb63]

Howdy Kevinlb63!

Yes, Jesus Christ will touch the earth when He returns. The Bible says the following in Zechariah 14:3-4...

Zechariah 14:3 Then shall the Lord go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.

Zechariah 14:4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.

God Bless You!

Dr. Mike

thanks dr mike
you are right! the mount of oloves and mount sion are one in the same!!!!


revelation 14
1 And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion,
and with him an hundred forty and four thousand,
having his Father's name written in their foreheads.

 

[MightyAngel1]

thanks dr mike
you are right! the mount of oloves and mount sion are one in the same!!!!

Howdy Kevin!

Thanks!

Kevin--revelation 14
1 And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion,
and with him an hundred forty and four thousand,
having his Father's name written in their foreheads.

I have a few questions for you.

1) Who do you see as being the 144,000?
2) Which Seed are they?
3) What are they now regarding the Gospel of Un-Circumcision (Galatians 2:7) ?
4) What Gospel will they preach and under what system of Governmental operation is their Gospel preached? Thanks in advance for you answer.

God Bless You!

Dr. Mike

 

[kevinlb63]

Governmental operation and the Gospel do not go together!!! and as i said before the 144 thousand are those who here not defiled by woman/ church roman church! and for the seed i do not know what seed or creed thay will be.
for all thay had to do is to love god and his son. who ever thay are and i think there time on earth has passed. because jesus says he will seal them in there foreheads . and to do it to there new body! and sence he said the dead in christ will rise first. the dead in christ i! think! are the 144 thousand. and then we who are alive will be next!! there are twelve tribes 12 thousand of each so i do not know so i will get the names of each tribe! seed!
•Judah
•Issachar
•Zebulun
•Reuben
•Simeon
•Gad
•Ephraim
•Manesseh
•Benjamin
•Dan
•Asher
•Naphtali

 

[MightyAngel1]

Governmental operation and the Gospel do not go together!!!

Howdy Kevin!

I have heard many pastors teach that as of late, and quite frankly, These pastors are dead wrong according to God. So, If there are pastors here reading this, I hope you take heed to what God says here as follows...

Jeremiah 23:1 WOE BE unto the pastors that destroy and scatter the sheep of my pasture! saith the Lord.

Jeremiah 23:2 Therefore thus saith the Lord God of Israel against the pastors that feed my people; Ye have scattered my flock, and driven them away, and have not visited them: behold, I will visit upon you the evil of your doings, saith the Lord.

The Biblical Factual Truth is simply this, Kevin. God's Governmental operation which is Kingdom Priesthood here on earth, see Exodus 19:5-6, does go hand in hand with the Gospel of Circumcision.

The Gospel of Circumcision is also known as the Gospel of the Kingdom. See Matthew 4:17 and Galatians 2:7. This very same Gospel is going to be preached by the 144,000 of Revelation 7:1-8 as prophesied by Jesus in Matthew 24:14.

You see, Kevin, The Gospel of the Kingdom is preached under the Law of Moses commonly referred to as Levitical Law. Jesus Christ preached the Gospel of the Kingdom as shown in Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John.

Not only did Jesus Christ preach the Gospel of the Kingdom, Jesus Christ fulfilled a portion of the Levitical Law during and at the end of His earthly Ministry. See Matthew 5:17-18 and Leviticus 23:1-22.

So, To say that Governmental operation and the Gospel does not go together, is a major shift away from what God says in His Holy Word. What you say places you in very grave danger with God. See Jeremiah 23:1-2 above.

Kevin--and as i said before the 144 thousand are those who here not defiled by woman/ church roman church! and for the seed i do not know what seed or creed thay will be.

I agree that they are not defiled by women for they are virgins. But, The Bible does not say anything about the Roman Church here. So, You should not include that remark in what you say. Just say what God says and you will be right.

As far as who the 144,000 are, I will be happy to tell you because I know. The 144,000 of Revelation 7:1-8, as you have pointed out, enter into the Tribulation period, see 1 Thessalonians 5:5b-8, as the Seed of Jacob multiplied as the dust of the earth. See Genesis 28:14.

When God places His Seal upon their foreheads, These 144,000 become the Seed of Isaac multiplied as the stars of the heaven. See Genesis 26:4 and Hebrews 12:23. This is why you see them in Heaven with Jesus in Revelation 14:1-5.

Kevin--for all thay had to do is to love god and his son. who ever thay are and i think there time on earth has passed.

No, Their time has not passed. Their time has not even started yet. Because, The man of sin, the son of perdition, has not been made known unto the world yet. See 2 Thessalonians 2:3.

Kevin--because jesus says he will seal them in there foreheads. and to do it to there new body!

No, They are not sealed in their new bodies. They are sealed just the way they are in human flesh like you and I are right now.

Kevin--and sence he said the dead in christ will rise first. the dead in christ i! think! are the 144 thousand.

Nope! The 144,000 never taste death. The Seal of God protects them from dying. They never die during their time of ministry which is the first 3 1/2 years of the Tribulation period of Daniel 9:27.

No harm can come to them because of the Seal of God on their foreheads.

Kevin--and then we who are alive will be next!!

Oh, No we will not. Because, We have already left before the Ministry of the 144,000 begins. See Revelation 4:1, Acts 15:17, and Romans 11:25.

Kevin--there are twelve tribes 12 thousand of each so i do not know so i will get the names of each tribe! seed!
•Judah
•Issachar
•Zebulun
•Reuben
•Simeon
•Gad
•Ephraim
•Manesseh
•Benjamin
•Dan
•Asher
•Naphtali

According to the Book of Revelation 7:1-8, The following Tribes have 12000 Jewish Priests who will preach the Gospel of Circumcision with the Seal of God on their foreheads...

Judah, Reuben, Gad, Aser, Nepthalim, Manasses, Simeon, Levi, Issachar, Zabulon, Joseph, and Benjamin.

God Bless You!

Dr. Mike

 

[kevinlb63]

Howdy Kevin!

I have heard many pastors teach that as of late, and quite frankly, These pastors are dead wrong according to God. So, If there are pastors here reading this, I hope you take heed to what God says here as follows...

Jeremiah 23:1 WOE BE unto the pastors that destroy and scatter the sheep of my pasture! saith the Lord.

Jeremiah 23:2 Therefore thus saith the Lord God of Israel against the pastors that feed my people; Ye have scattered my flock, and driven them away, and have not visited them: behold, I will visit upon you the evil of your doings, saith the Lord.

The Biblical Factual Truth is simply this, Kevin. God's Governmental operation which is Kingdom Priesthood here on earth, see Exodus 19:5-6, does go hand in hand with the Gospel of Circumcision.

The Gospel of Circumcision is also known as the Gospel of the Kingdom. See Matthew 4:17 and Galatians 2:7. This very same Gospel is going to be preached by the 144,000 of Revelation 7:1-8 as prophesied by Jesus in Matthew 24:14.

You see, Kevin, The Gospel of the Kingdom is preached under the Law of Moses commonly referred to as Levitical Law. Jesus Christ preached the Gospel of the Kingdom as shown in Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John.

Not only did Jesus Christ preach the Gospel of the Kingdom, Jesus Christ fulfilled a portion of the Levitical Law during and at the end of His earthly Ministry. See Matthew 5:17-18 and Leviticus 23:1-22.

So, To say that Governmental operation and the Gospel does not go together, is a major shift away from what God says in His Holy Word. What you say places you in very grave danger with God. See Jeremiah 23:1-2 above.



I agree that they are not defiled by women for they are virgins. But, The Bible does not say anything about the Roman Church here. So, You should not include that remark in what you say. Just say what God says and you will be right.

As far as who the 144,000 are, I will be happy to tell you because I know. The 144,000 of Revelation 7:1-8, as you have pointed out, enter into the Tribulation period, see 1 Thessalonians 5:5b-8, as the Seed of Jacob multiplied as the dust of the earth. See Genesis 28:14.

When God places His Seal upon their foreheads, These 144,000 become the Seed of Isaac multiplied as the stars of the heaven. See Genesis 26:4 and Hebrews 12:23. This is why you see them in Heaven with Jesus in Revelation 14:1-5.



No, Their time has not passed. Their time has not even started yet. Because, The man of sin, the son of perdition, has not been made known unto the world yet. See 2 Thessalonians 2:3.



No, They are not sealed in their new bodies. They are sealed just the way they are in human flesh like you and I are right now.



Nope! The 144,000 never taste death. The Seal of God protects them from dying. They never die during their time of ministry which is the first 3 1/2 years of the Tribulation period of Daniel 9:27.

No harm can come to them because of the Seal of God on their foreheads.



Oh, No we will not. Because, We have already left before the Ministry of the 144,000 begins. See Revelation 4:1, Acts 15:17, and Romans 11:25.



According to the Book of Revelation 7:1-8, The following Tribes have 12000 Jewish Priests who will preach the Gospel of Circumcision with the Seal of God on their foreheads...

Judah, Reuben, Gad, Aser, Nepthalim, Manasses, Simeon, Levi, Issachar, Zabulon, Joseph, and Benjamin.

God Bless You!

Dr. Mike

are you a jehovah witness if you are i have nothing else to say!!!!!
you need to read my other post!!! no rature for me !! it is not in the bible ones . in fact jesus says he will not come untill the tribulatons is over!!! quote matthew 24:29 Immediately{{ after}} the(( tribulation)) of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken And{ then} shall appear the {{sign of the Son of man in heaven}}: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory
and by the way when jesus comes back all soles leave the fleach the good bad and ugly. that is why the angel says come and eat the flesh of kings /rich men/poor men/ bond men/ he means all fleash will be done away with for thay will be no need for fleash.

 

[MightyAngel1]

are you a jehovah witness if you are i have nothing else to say!!!!!

Howdy Kevin!

No, I am not a JW. However, I am a Christian. I am a born again, Spirit filled, Holy Spirit Gifted with the Gifts of the Holy Spirit of 1 Corinthians Chapter 12, I am a Faith walker, and I am also a Pastor.

Kevin--you need to read my other post!!! no rature for me !! it is not in the bible ones.

Well, This will be very easy for you. You will be left down behind. See Acts 15:17 and Matthew 25:1-13. Why Acts 15:17?

Well, Since you have declared there will be no rapture for you, then, when the Rapture takes place, you will become the residue of men that might seek after the Lord.

And, You will see with your own eyes the man of sin, the son of perdition described by the Apostle Paul in 2 Thessalonians 2:3.

Kevin--in fact jesus says he will not come untill the tribulatons is over!!!

You need to study John Chapter 20. Because, Jesus Christ describes in this Chapter exactly what He is going to do when He returns.

Kevin--quote matthew 24:29 Immediately{{ after}} the(( tribulation)) of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken And{ then} shall appear the {{sign of the Son of man in heaven}}: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory

Do you know what is being described here by the Apostle Matthew? Christ's return to deliver Israel, that is, the Seed of Jacob multiplied as the dust of the earth, from the Antichrist.

Kevin--and by the way when jesus comes back all soles leave the fleach the good bad and ugly. that is why the angel says come and eat the flesh of kings /rich men/poor men/ bond men/ he means all fleash will be done away with for thay will be no need for fleash.

You said quote "Kevin--he means all fleash will be done away with for thay will be no need for fleash."

Well, I know that God did not tell you that because God does not contradict His Law or Covenant. Let us see what God says about this in Genesis 9:12...

Genesis 9:12 And God said, This is the token of the covenant which I make between me and you and every living creature that is with you, for perpetual generations.

You do know what perpetual generations means, yes? Perpetual generations means that there will be human beings on this earth for ever and ever. The Human race will never end.

Why? Because the Earth abideth for ever. Ecclesiastes 1:4.

Ecclesiastes 1:4 One generation passeth away, and another generation cometh: but the earth abideth for ever.

God Bless You!

Dr. Mike

 

[kevinlb63]

flesh

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</TD><TD style="WIDTH: 100%" class=t_text vAlign=top>1 And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion,
and with him an hundred forty and four thousand,
having his Father's name written in their foreheads. thay are not in the flesh at this time or any time after that .. the flesh is corrupt and god and jesus said so... all flesh dies at the time of christ coming that is why the angel says come and eat the flesh of kings/ rich men/poor men/bond men/ free men all leave the flesh when he comes back. and then comes the thousand years of peace with christ. satin is bound for a thousand years while the 144 teach his gospel and then satin is let loose again to decive the one that can be!! and thay follow him and he trys to make war with jesus , but is consumed. and thats the game...
matthew 24 29 amediatly after the tribulation of those days
matthew 31
and he sent his angels to collect his elect! from the four winds of heaven
[9] Even{ him,} { jesus}
whose coming is{ after } a f t e r the working of {{{Satan}}}
Rev 12:11 And they [Christians] overcame him [Satan]
by the blood of the Lamb [Jesus Christ],
and by the word of their testimony;
and they [Christians] loved not their [own] lives unto the death
[Christians willing to die for Christ, rather than live for Satan
(or rather than live in fear of Satan
revelation 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints:
here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
revelation 14:13
And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write,
Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth:
Yea,saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours;
and their works do follow them. all these things take place before christ comes back...........
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[kevinlb63]

mount Sion

revelation 14
1 And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion,
and with him an hundred forty and four thousand,
having his Father's name written in their foreheads!!! i hate to tell you this buy thay are not in heaven at that time thay are on earth. because the new heaven and earth come after the thousand years.

 

[kevinlb63]

Howdy Kevin!

I have heard many pastors teach that as of late, and quite frankly, These pastors are dead wrong according to God. So, If there are pastors here reading this, I hope you take heed to what God says here as follows...

Jeremiah 23:1 WOE BE unto the pastors that destroy and scatter the sheep of my pasture! saith the Lord.

Jeremiah 23:2 Therefore thus saith the Lord God of Israel against the pastors that feed my people; Ye have scattered my flock, and driven them away, and have not visited them: behold, I will visit upon you the evil of your doings, saith the Lord.

The Biblical Factual Truth is simply this, Kevin. God's Governmental operation which is Kingdom Priesthood here on earth, see Exodus 19:5-6, does go hand in hand with the Gospel of Circumcision.

The Gospel of Circumcision is also known as the Gospel of the Kingdom. See Matthew 4:17 and Galatians 2:7. This very same Gospel is going to be preached by the 144,000 of Revelation 7:1-8 as prophesied by Jesus in Matthew 24:14.

You see, Kevin, The Gospel of the Kingdom is preached under the Law of Moses commonly referred to as Levitical Law. Jesus Christ preached the Gospel of the Kingdom as shown in Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John.

Not only did Jesus Christ preach the Gospel of the Kingdom, Jesus Christ fulfilled a portion of the Levitical Law during and at the end of His earthly Ministry. See Matthew 5:17-18 and Leviticus 23:1-22.

So, To say that Governmental operation and the Gospel does not go together, is a major shift away from what God says in His Holy Word. What you say places you in very grave danger with God. See Jeremiah 23:1-2 above.



I agree that they are not defiled by women for they are virgins. But, The Bible does not say anything about the Roman Church here. So, You should not include that remark in what you say. Just say what God says and you will be right.

As far as who the 144,000 are, I will be happy to tell you because I know. The 144,000 of Revelation 7:1-8, as you have pointed out, enter into the Tribulation period, see 1 Thessalonians 5:5b-8, as the Seed of Jacob multiplied as the dust of the earth. See Genesis 28:14.

When God places His Seal upon their foreheads, These 144,000 become the Seed of Isaac multiplied as the stars of the heaven. See Genesis 26:4 and Hebrews 12:23. This is why you see them in Heaven with Jesus in Revelation 14:1-5.



No, Their time has not passed. Their time has not even started yet. Because, The man of sin, the son of perdition, has not been made known unto the world yet. See 2 Thessalonians 2:3.



No, They are not sealed in their new bodies. They are sealed just the way they are in human flesh like you and I are right now.



Nope! The 144,000 never taste death. The Seal of God protects them from dying. They never die during their time of ministry which is the first 3 1/2 years of the Tribulation period of Daniel 9:27.

No harm can come to them because of the Seal of God on their foreheads.



Oh, No we will not. Because, We have already left before the Ministry of the 144,000 begins. See Revelation 4:1, Acts 15:17, and Romans 11:25.



According to the Book of Revelation 7:1-8, The following Tribes have 12000 Jewish Priests who will preach the Gospel of Circumcision with the Seal of God on their foreheads...

Judah, Reuben, Gad, Aser, Nepthalim, Manasses, Simeon, Levi, Issachar, Zabulon, Joseph, and Benjamin.

God Bless You!

Dr. Mike

the women is the church !! israels church or the romeman church you be the judge!!!

 

[kevinlb63]

mount Sion

i am not a preacher but i will tell you this the one who scatterd the church is over in rome!! and all the denominational doctrin is what is the trouble.. there is only on church gods ... and we are in the tribulation right now,,,,, i am not going to judge you but i think you are a jw or catholic precher or maybe just a baptist....baptist belive the lie of rapture ..... i am non denominational. i just read the bible and i live christ. an i dont think that jesus and god are flesh.. and if we stay in the flesh we can be corrupted. because the flesh is corrupt
jesus said he is coming back after and i will not be moved, he said so and i belive him! not you.... the preachers that scater!!! is that you!!!!!!!!!!! we need one doctrin not two or three or four of five or six or seven or eigth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! love christ and prepair for his coming!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and our goverment has no place in religion. none and if it does we are in trouble!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[MightyAngel1]

revelation 14
1 And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion,
and with him an hundred forty and four thousand,
having his Father's name written in their foreheads!!! i hate to tell you this buy thay are not in heaven at that time thay are on earth. because the new heaven and earth come after the thousand years.

Howdy Kevin!

I decided to respond to your last post first. So, You think they are on earth? That is, Jesus Christ and the 144,000 standing on mount Zion here on earth?

Ok, Well, Let us do a little Bible study and see if you are right or if God is right. In this case, Only One of you is right. And, One if you is wrong. If I was a gambling man, I would place my bet on God to win.

Looking at Revelation 14:1 The Bible says...And I looked, and lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Zion (KJV) and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written on their foreheads.

Ok, So, What we need to do is find a verse in the Bible to back up what Revelation 14:1 says. Ok, Kevin, Please open your Bible to Hebrews 12:22. The Bible says as follows...

Hebrews 12:22 But ye are come unto mount Zion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels.

Ok, So, In Revelation 14:1, We see mount Zion. In Hebrews 12:22, We see mount Zion. The Point I am making here is that Revelation 14:1 and Hebrews 12:22 describe the very same mount Zion.

And, The mount Zion described in Revelation 14:1 and Hebrews 12:22 is located in Heaven.

Now, Let us look at yet one more verse. The Bible says the following in Revelation 6:1...

Revelation 6:1 AND I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see.

The Context of Revelation 6:1 clearly indicates that Jesus Christ is in Heaven when He begins to open one of the Seven Seals.

Since Jesus Christ is in Heaven in Revelation 6:1, Christ remains in Heaven until He leaves Heaven. Make sense? So, When does Christ leave Heaven? Revelation 19:11.

So, based on the Evidence in Scripture, I have proven to you that Jesus Christ and the 144,000 Jewish Priests who never taste death are in Heaven in Revelation 14:1.

Because, Jesus Christ does not leave Heaven until Revelation 19:11. Then, The Events described in Matthew 24:29-31 take place.

Therefore, based on the Evidence in Scripture and what God shows us, Kevin, Your Assumption that Jesus Christ and the 144,000 are on earth is simply...wrong.

Jesus Christ NEVER stands on this earth during the Tribulation period of Daniel 9:27.

God Bless You!

Dr. Mike

 

[MightyAngel1]

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</TD><TD style="WIDTH: 100%" class=t_text vAlign=top>1 And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion,
and with him an hundred forty and four thousand,
having his Father's name written in their foreheads. thay are not in the flesh at this time or any time after that .. the flesh is corrupt and god and jesus said so... all flesh dies at the time of christ coming that is why the angel says come and eat the flesh of kings/ rich men/poor men/bond men/ free men all leave the flesh when he comes back. and then comes the thousand years of peace with christ. satin is bound for a thousand years while the 144 teach his gospel and then satin is let loose again to decive the one that can be!! and thay follow him and he trys to make war with jesus , but is consumed. and thats the game...
matthew 24 29 amediatly after the tribulation of those days
matthew 31
and he sent his angels to collect his elect! from the four winds of heaven
[9] Even{ him,} { jesus}
whose coming is{ after } a f t e r the working of {{{Satan}}}
Rev 12:11 And they [Christians] overcame him [Satan]
by the blood of the Lamb [Jesus Christ],
and by the word of their testimony;
and they [Christians] loved not their [own] lives unto the death
[Christians willing to die for Christ, rather than live for Satan
(or rather than live in fear of Satan
revelation 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints:
here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
revelation 14:13
And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write,
Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth:
Yea,saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours;
and their works do follow them. all these things take place before christ comes back...........
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Howdy Kevin!

Just one point here. After reading your post, I want you to know something. Replacement Theology, Kevin, is a False Doctrine. You should not be teaching this False Doctrine.

In the verse you posted above, Revelation 12:11,The Specific Audience according to the Seed Covenant of Abraham spoken by God Himself in the Book of Genesis is the Seed of Isaac multiplied as the stars of the Heaven during the Tribulation period of Daniel 9:27.

The Seed of Isaac multiplied as the stars of the heaven are not the Christian Church called in Abraham. The Seed of Isaac multiplied as the stars of the heaven are called in Isaac and they practice New Testament Judaism. Genesis 21:12, Romans 9:7, Hebrews 11:18 and Revelation 14:12.

God Bless You!

Dr. Mike

 

[MightyAngel1]

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[kevinlb63]

Howdy Kevin!

Just one point here. After reading your post, I want you to know something. Replacement Theology, Kevin, is a False Doctrine. You should not be teaching this False Doctrine.

In the verse you posted above, Revelation 12:11,The Specific Audience according to the Seed Covenant of Abraham spoken by God Himself in the Book of Genesis is the Seed of Isaac multiplied as the stars of the Heaven during the Tribulation period of Daniel 9:27.

The Seed of Isaac multiplied as the stars of the heaven are not the Christian Church called in Abraham. The Seed of Isaac multiplied as the stars of the heaven are called in Isaac and they practice New Testament Judaism. Genesis 21:12, Romans 9:7, Hebrews 11:18 and Revelation 14:12.

God Bless You!

Dr. Mike

so what you are saying is Christians have no place in god plain!! and that thay are all jews?

 

[MightyAngel1]

i am not a preacher

Howdy Kevin!

According to 2 Corinthians 5:18, Yes, You are a preacher. You have the Ministry of Reconciliation.

Kevin--but i will tell you this the one who scatterd the church is over in rome!!

Are you sure, The one who scattered is not Rev. Moon?

Kevin--and all the denominational doctrin is what is the trouble..

Well, There is plenty of that.

Kevin-there is only on church gods ...

The Gospel of Circumcision was preached to the Seed of Jacob multiplied as the dust of the earth by Peter. See Galatians 2:7.

The Gospel of Un-Circumcision was preached to the Heathen, i.e. Gentiles, by the Apostle Paul. See Galatians 2:7.

The Seed of Jacob multiplied as the dust of the earth is not the same group of people as the Gentiles. Compare Exodus 19:5-6 with Acts 15:14.

Kevin--and we are in the tribulation right now,,,,,

No, We are not. The Man of Sin, The son of perdition of 2 Thessalonians 2:3 has not been revealed to the world yet.

Kevin--i am not going to judge you

Very good, Thanks!

Kevin--but i think you are a jw or catholic precher or maybe just a baptist....

Be careful here. See Proverbs 23:7 in part...For as he thinketh in his heart so is he.

Kevin--baptist belive the lie of rapture .....

Baptists are not the only denomination who Believe what God says.

Kevin--i am non denominational.

So, Are you a Disciple of Christ?

Kevin--i just read the bible and i live christ.

Well, You are not commanded to read the Bible, You are Commanded to Study the Bible. 2 Timothy 2:15.

Living Christ is a good thing to do. But, You need to make sure that you teach matches what The Holy Word of God says.

Kevin--an i dont think that jesus and god are flesh..

According to John 4:24, God is a Spirit, and they that worship Him must worship Him in Spirit and in Truth.

So, God the Father is a Spirit Being. The Holy Spirit is a Spirit Being. And, Jesus Christ has a Glorified Human Body that is Spiritual. See 1 Corinthians 15:44.

Kevin--and if we stay in the flesh we can be corrupted. because the flesh is corrupt

This is why Paul teaches us to walk after the Spirit, not after the flesh. Romans 8:1.

Kevin--jesus said he is coming back after and i will not be moved, he said so and i belive him! not you....

Jesus said that He is coming back before the Tribulation period begins. I will not be moved. He said so and I believe Him!

Kevin--the preachers that scater!!! is that you!!!!!!!!!!!

No, I do not scatter. I operate on Seed...Time...Harvest. Genesis 8:22.

Kevin--we need one doctrin not two or three or four of five or six or seven or eigth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! love christ and prepair for his coming!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is why I teach the Seed Covenant of Abraham. Why? God spoke this Covenant.

Kevin--and our goverment has no place in religion. none and if it does we are in trouble!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No, We are in trouble because our Government wishes to remove the right of every person in this Country to have a Relationship with Jesus Christ. This is one of the many reasons why the 1962 Supreme Court decision removed the 10 Commandments from the Public School System.

God Bless You!

Dr. Mike

 

[kevinlb63]

the last jubilee

well i can tell you and i dont like going here buy here it goes the last jubilee is in 2017 after that it looks like it is time for god to rest!!! acording to daniels time line.. and one more thing you proved that jesus comes back for a third time with all those bible verses. i did not know he come back and gets the elect and then goes back to heaven and stand on mount zion! and then come back again to have his battel with satin....

look from what i have read it all happen at one time!!!!!!!!!!

 

[kevinlb63]

Howdy Kevin!

Just one point here. After reading your post, I want you to know something. Replacement Theology, Kevin, is a False Doctrine. You should not be teaching this False Doctrine.

In the verse you posted above, Revelation 12:11,The Specific Audience according to the Seed Covenant of Abraham spoken by God Himself in the Book of Genesis is the Seed of Isaac multiplied as the stars of the Heaven during the Tribulation period of Daniel 9:27.

The Seed of Isaac multiplied as the stars of the heaven are not the Christian Church called in Abraham. The Seed of Isaac multiplied as the stars of the heaven are called in Isaac and they practice New Testament Judaism. Genesis 21:12, Romans 9:7, Hebrews 11:18 and Revelation 14:12.

God Bless You!

Dr. Mike

i am not replacing doctrin i am just making a point like the word him means jesus or thay could mean christians! . let just say god people
i wasnot trying to change gods word it says to not take away and or add....

 

[MightyAngel1]

so what you are saying is Christians have no place in god plain!! and that thay are all jews?

Howdy Kevin!

Yes, Christians have a place in God's Plan. God's Plan calls for The Preaching of the Gospel of Un-Circumcision to the Gentiles for a specific period of time.

This time began in Acts 22:21 when God sent Paul to preach this Gospel to the Gentiles. Before Paul went to the Gentiles, Paul spent 3 years with God as God revealed to Paul the Gospel of Un-Circumcision and all of the details of this Gospel. See Galatians 1:11-12.

Let me show you something here. I will show you the Seed Covenant of Abraham in the New Testament that was Prophesied by God in the Old Testament.

1) The Seed of Jacob multiplied as the dust of the earth.
2) The Seed of Isaac multiplied as the stars of the heaven.
3) The Seed of Abraham multiplied as the stars of the heaven.

The Bible teaches that the Gospel, that is the Gospel of the Kingdom, also known as the Gospel of Circumcision that is preached under the Law of Moses, came to the Jew first.

And, This Seed of Jacob in the New Testament heard the Gospel of Circumcision and rejected Jesus Christ.

However, The Jews that did receive the Gospel of Circumcision became the Seed of Isaac multiplied as the stars of the heaven as shown in Matthew, Mark, Luke and John.

In Acts 2, We see just now many Jewish People believed the Gospel of Circumcision after Christ's earthly ministry here on earth. There were only 120 in the upper room.

After Saul was saved in Acts 9, Saul's name was later changed to Paul and God sent him to the Gentiles to preach the Gospel of Un-Circumcision.

According to Acts 22:18, The Jewish People who stood on the Covenant of Circumcision, see Genesis 17:10-14, would not receive this Gospel of Un-Circumcision.

Since the Seed of Jacob multiplied as the dust of the earth rejected Jesus Christ, see John 1:11, God blinded them, see Romans 11:8, to the Gospel of Un-Circumcision.

Therefore, The only Gospel the Seed of Jacob multiplied as the dust of the earth are going to hear and receive is the Gospel of Circumcision that will be preached by the 144,000 in the Tribulation period.

The Tribulation Period is all about the Seed of Jacob multiplied as the dust of the earth and the Seed of Isaac multiplied as the stars of the heaven (The 144,000).

The Seed of Abraham multiplied as the stars of the heaven and the Seed of Isaac multiplied as the stars of the heaven in the Church Age DO NOT enter into the Tribulation period.

The Seed Covenant of Abraham is a very powerful component of Study for End Time Bible Prophecy. Once you learn this Covenant, You will never look at your Bible the way you have before.

God Bless You!

Dr. Mike