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Testing

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Did you know that as Christians we are in a war? Did you know that we are constantly being tested? Almost everyday in some way.

Even Jesus was tempted and tested.
( Matt 16:1; Matt 19:3; Matt 22:18; Matt 22:35; Mark 10:2; Mark 12:15; John 8:6; Luke 11:16; John 6:6; Matt 4:1; Mark 1:13; etc... )

But testing is what determines where we are in our walk with God.

Jas 1:3; knowing that the testing of your faith produces endurance.

1 Pet 4:12; Beloved, do not be surprised at the fiery ordeal among you, which comes upon you for your testing, as though some strange thing were happening to you;

(Some people use the verse below to support a pre-trib rapture)
Rev 3:10; 'Because you have kept the word of My perseverance, I also will keep you from the hour of testing, that hour which is about to come upon the whole world, to test those who dwell on the earth.

God allowed Job to be tested. ( Job 1:8-12; )
Jesus allowed Peter to be tested ( Luke 22:31; )

Leaders in the church are supposed to be tested over a period of time before they are appointed as leaders.
2 Cor 8:22; We have sent with them our brother, whom we have often tested and found diligent in many things, but now even more diligent because of his great confidence in you.
1 Tim 3:10; These men must also first be tested; then let them serve as deacons if they are beyond reproach. ( Also Rev 2:2; )

Abraham was tested.
Heb 11:17; By faith Abraham, when he was tested, offered up Isaac, and he who had received the promises was offering up his only begotten son;

The church of Smyrna in Revelation was tested.
Rev 2:10; 'Do not fear what you are about to suffer. Behold, the devil is about to cast some of you into prison, so that you will be tested, and you will have tribulation for ten days. Be faithful until death, and I will give you the crown of life.

Our works will be tested.
1 Cor 3:13; each man's work will become evident; for the day will show it because it is to be revealed with fire, and the fire itself will test the quality of each man's work.

Paul tested the Corinthians.
2 Cor 2:9; For to this end also I wrote, so that I might put you to the test, whether you are obedient in all things.

We are even told to test ourselves.
2 Cor 13:5; Test yourselves to see if you are in the faith; examine yourselves! Or do you not recognize this about yourselves, that Jesus Christ is in you--unless indeed you fail the test?
2 Cor 13:6; But I trust that you will realize that we ourselves do not fail the test.

So why does God allow us to be tested?

Deut 8:2; "You shall remember all the way which the LORD your God has led you in the wilderness these forty years, that He might humble you, testing you, to know what was in your heart, whether you would keep His commandments or not.

1 Pet 1:7; so that the proof of your faith, being more precious than gold which is perishable, even though tested by fire, may be found to result in praise and glory and honor at the revelation of Jesus Christ;

Jas 1:2; Consider it all joy, my brethren, when you encounter various trials,
Jas 1:3; knowing that the testing of your faith produces endurance.
Jas 1:4; And let endurance have its perfect result, so that you may be perfect and complete, lacking in nothing.

1 Pet 1:6; In this you greatly rejoice, even though now for a little while, if necessary, you have been distressed by various trials,
1 Pet 1:7; so that the proof of your faith, being more precious than gold which is perishable, even though tested by fire, may be found to result in praise and glory and honor at the revelation of Jesus Christ;
1 Pet 1:8; and though you have not seen Him, you love Him, and though you do not see Him now, but believe in Him, you greatly rejoice with joy inexpressible and full of glory,
1 Pet 1:9; obtaining as the outcome of your faith the salvation of your souls.

How are doing on your tests?

2 Cor 10:3; For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war according to the flesh,
2 Cor 10:4; for the weapons of our warfare are not of the flesh, but divinely powerful for the destruction of fortresses.
2 Cor 10:5; We are destroying speculations and every lofty thing raised up against the knowledge of God, and we are taking every thought captive to the obedience of Christ,
2 Cor 10:6; and we are ready to punish all disobedience, whenever your obedience is complete.

1 Pet 2:11; Beloved, I urge you as aliens and strangers to abstain from fleshly lusts which wage war against the soul.

Some Christians think this only applies to non-believers, however they aren't in the battle, in fact most of them don't acknowledge they are in a war.
(Interestingly enough, many will ask why God is testing them, or at least ask "Why me?")
Satan doesn't test those who are already his, he doesn't have to. The war for your soul begins when you accept Jesus.

Does your testing show the proof of your faith? Does your testing show your trust in God? ...or ...
Does your testing show disobedience and failure to "take very thought captive"?

1 Cor 9:24; Do you not know that those who run in a race all run, but only one receives the prize? Run in such a way that you may win.
1 Cor 9:25; Everyone who competes in the games exercises self-control in all things. They then do it to receive a perishable wreath, but we an imperishable.
1 Cor 9:26; Therefore I run in such a way, as not without aim; I box in such a way, as not beating the air;
1 Cor 9:27; but I discipline my body and make it my slave, so that, after I have preached to others, I myself will not be disqualified.
 
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No pun intended but this puts a whole new prespective on : " Don't change your channel, this is a test"!....great thread of yours!
 
Loving the Lord and being approved.

There are many Christians that consider themselves approved (at least by their standards) but our standards aren't what matters.

2 Cor 10:18; For it is not he who commends himself that is approved, but he whom the Lord commends.
2 Tim 2:15; Be diligent to present yourself approved to God as a workman who does not need to be ashamed, accurately handling the word of truth.

This is very much related to the testing and trials mentioned in the OP.

Jas 1:12; Blessed is a man who perseveres under trial; for once he has been approved, he will receive the crown of life which the Lord has promised to those who love Him.

Hmmm... to those who love him, it is a commandment that we love him. ( Matt 22:37; Mark 12:30; Luke 10:27; )
So how do we know if we really love the Lord? Is it simply saying "I love you". Sometimes those words are easy to say without meaning them. ( Matt 15:8; Mark 7:6; )

John 14:15; "If you love Me, you will keep My commandments.
John 14:21; "He who has My commandments and keeps them is the one who loves Me; and he who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I will love him and will disclose Myself to him."
Notice it says Jesus does not disclose everyone to the father, only those who love him.

John 14:23; Jesus answered and said to him, "If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our abode with him.
John 14:24; "He who does not love Me does not keep My words; and the word which you hear is not Mine, but the Father's who sent Me.
John 15:10; "If you keep My commandments, you will abide in My love; just as I have kept My Father's commandments and abide in His love.

Loving God is a pre-requisite for certain blessings.
Rom 8:28; And we know that God causes all things to work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to His purpose.
Rom 8:35; Who will separate us from the love of Christ? Will tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
Eph 6:24; Grace be with all those who love our Lord Jesus Christ with incorruptible love.

1 Cor 16:22; If anyone does not love the Lord, he is to be accursed. Maranatha.

Jas 2:5; Listen, my beloved brethren: did not God choose the poor of this world to be rich in faith and heirs of the kingdom which He promised to those who love Him?

1 Jn 5:2; By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God and observe His commandments.
1 Jn 5:3; For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments; and His commandments are not burdensome.
2 Jn 1:6; And this is His love, that we walk according to His commandments. This is the commandment, just as you have heard from the beginning, that you should walk in it.

Jude 1:21; keep yourselves in the love of God, waiting anxiously for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ to eternal life.

Rev 2:4; 'But I have this against you, that you have left your first love.
 
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James 1:12; and Rev 2:10; are really the only two verses in the Bible where it talks about a "crown of life".
There is some debate over what the crown of life actually is.
However I notice both verses, talk about being tested before you can receive it.

Jas 1:12; Blessed is a man who perseveres under trial; for once he has been approved, he will receive the crown of life which the Lord has promised to those who love Him.
Rev 2:10; 'Do not fear what you are about to suffer. Behold, the devil is about to cast some of you into prison, so that you will be tested, and you will have tribulation for ten days. Be faithful until death, and I will give you the crown of life.

Could the requirements for the "crown of life" be the same as for "eternal life"?

Matt 19:17; And He said to him, "Why are you asking Me about what is good? There is only One who is good; but if you wish to enter into life, keep the commandments."

 
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The armor of God

You know it's interesting, many Christians can quote the verses in Ephesians 6 about the armor of God, but it's just as amazing that a great many of them
cannot tell you why they need the armor in the first place.

Eph 6:11; Put on the full armor of God, so that you will be able to stand firm against the schemes of the devil.
Eph 6:12; For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Eph 6:13; Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.

As I stated in the OP, we are in a battle. Almost everyday.
 
Christians shouldnt test others unless they are trying to install themselves into some kind of leadership. Then yes, they should be tested. Far too many people are turned off to christianity due to hypocrites in high places.
 
Christians shouldnt test others unless they are trying to install themselves into some kind of leadership. Then yes, they should be tested. Far too many people are turned off to christianity due to hypocrites in high places.
Really?:eyes: and Really again! and then Really again.:eyes: I am going to stay out of this one, and see who will take up 'Elijah's mantle? ok
 
Really?:eyes: and Really again! and then Really again.:eyes: I am going to stay out of this one, and see who will take up 'Elijah's mantle? ok
Elijah's test was not for him, it was for all Israelites that were not sure who was the most powerful God. Not the same thing.
 
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