Surveys: Most Adult US Christians don’t believe The Holy Spirit is real: study

[God's Truth]

Well, all the Brilliant, minds That Gathered at “The Synod Of Dort” for a few Months thought “Calvin’s” explanation was “Theological Sound” and some of Them were not even “Calvinist”!

And I know, I am no where near Those “Biblical Scholars”,
And not fit to be in the same room.

The Bible tells us it is not to the scholars, in fact, it is hid from them.
They have to become like little children and humble themselves to have truth.
That means they have to disregard all the things that think they know and get rid of any pride.
Many people have pride after going to college.

Think of the Apostle Paul, he was highly educated, and he knew Aramaic and Greek.
He had to give it all up for God's truth and he was glad to.

They Read The Real “Copied Manuscript “ of The “Holy Scripture” what The BOOK and What GOD actually said. And not what a interpreter said. Using replace words and has a different meaning of Thought in many places, because in some places there are no translation to carry the [thought] words to replace or have the same identity as the Original Wording.

We have the Bible in our language and God says He gives understanding to those who get His teachings and obeys His commands.
It really is light and easy.
Jesus says to change to that like a child, a child is subject to everything their father says to do.
We have to have that mind and heart set, to do whatever God says to do.

We are to humble ourselves and confess our sins, and repent of them.
We believe that Jesus' blood washes us clean.
And we call on Jesus to help us, to save us, to give us his Spirit.

When we obey and are saved we receive understanding.

So, I will stay in my Lane. And Go with what I got!

Martin Luther and John Calvin were Catholics and rightly saw many errors in the Catholic denomination, but they didn't go far enough in correcting those errors, and they added some false doctrines of their own, they added some false teachings they learned from Augustine in particular.

When a man went to college, they studied the writings of men like Aquinas and Augustine and Arminius.
It was easy to be influenced by the teachings of men.

However, the Bible tells us how to make Jesus our Teacher.

It is an ongoing error passed down by different denominations to study from men and believe a certain way, instead of having Jesus as your Teacher.

And leave that “Deep Water” Deep Diving Suits to you!

That Ocean is DEEP., I know what I am Talking About

When I jump into The “Scriptures” I “ scuba-dive, in flesh water. I have “DEEP DIVE” in The ScriptureI been There about Twice. I Ain’t going No more. When you DEEP DIVE, when you get back up to the Surface, you still is Not up! Your voice. Will scare you, when you waiting For Your Tone to get Back To The Surface.

Catholic was my life, until it hit me that they didn't know God. I started to search for God's Truth and immediately started searching in different denominations, for that is what I thought I had to do to find God.
I figured one of these denominations had to be right!
There were too many and I was overwhelmed by them all.
Which one was the truth???!!!

The truth is found in the New Testament scriptures, in Jesus' words, and he starts out saying to repent of your sins.

All these other denominations are preaching falseness.

They might mean well but they are doing a hindrance.

This Generation is Totally Different, The have no idea the Deepness of GOD.

Many, Think Calvinist, they think Teaching of Calvinist, It is not So.

A Calvinist, Think The Deepness of “GOD”,

It is not teaching, it is Arriving To A Place in “GOD’S TRUTH”!

Calvinism is not the Way.
I can show you easily from the scriptures.

Methodist is Teaching
Pentecostalism is Teaching
Baptist is about Teaching
Roman Catholic is about Teaching
And …etc.

“Calvinism” is about Arriving to a Place In “GOD”.

You rejected Pentecostalism, and Baptists, and Catholicism...but you settled on Calvinism!
I can show you it is not the truth.
But it doesn't seem to matter to you anyway.
Does it matter to you?

 

[PloughBoy]

The Bible tells us it is not to the scholars, in fact, it is hid from them.
They have to become like little children and humble themselves to have truth.
That means they have to disregard all the things that think they know and get rid of any pride.
Many people have pride after going to college.

Think of the Apostle Paul, he was highly educated, and he knew Aramaic and Greek.
He had to give it all up for God's truth and he was glad to.



We have the Bible in our language and God says He gives understanding to those who get His teachings and obeys His commands.
It really is light and easy.
Jesus says to change to that like a child, a child is subject to everything their father says to do.
We have to have that mind and heart set, to do whatever God says to do.

We are to humble ourselves and confess our sins, and repent of them.
We believe that Jesus' blood washes us clean.
And we call on Jesus to help us, to save us, to give us his Spirit.

When we obey and are saved we receive understanding.


Martin Luther and John Calvin were Catholics and rightly saw many errors in the Catholic denomination, but they didn't go far enough in correcting those errors, and they added some false doctrines of their own, they added some false teachings they learned from Augustine in particular.

When a man went to college, they studied the writings of men like Aquinas and Augustine and Arminius.
It was easy to be influenced by the teachings of men.

However, the Bible tells us how to make Jesus our Teacher.

It is an ongoing error passed down by different denominations to study from men and believe a certain way, instead of having Jesus as your Teacher.

Catholic was my life, until it hit me that they didn't know God. I started to search for God's Truth and immediately started searching in different denominations, for that is what I thought I had to do to find God.
I figured one of these denominations had to be right!
There were too many and I was overwhelmed by them all.
Which one was the truth???!!!

The truth is found in the New Testament scriptures, in Jesus' words, and he starts out saying to repent of your sins.

All these other denominations are preaching falseness.

They might mean well but they are doing a hindrance.


Calvinism is not the Way.
I can show you easily from the scriptures.

You rejected Pentecostalism, and Baptists, and Catholicism...but you settled on Calvinism!
I can show you it is not the truth.
But it doesn't seem to matter to you anyway.
Does it matter to you?

Evidently you have no idea who composite the Bible, and what is a bible, and who form creative words to transpired a collectives. It seem you are in complete lost with Drum up Imaginary thoughts concerning “The Compiled “BOOK”.

I think I am the wrong person you should be Disgusting such matters, because all your words, you are relating concerning “TRUTH” is going get you in trouble at The Last DAY.

PS. And is no evidence of “The FEAR” that ought to be Feared.

Do you really understand what a “Deceiver” is?

How many hours, have you place in “Exhausting” the Word study of That word?

And Do you “FEAR” “GOD ALMIGHTY”?
All Evidence, are being transpired about something gradually being ushered in.

PS. I am not into any kind of “ fraternities or Religious Cults, or any kind of covenant denominations or Non-denominations of a set religious sect.

So my signature or “MARK” is not place on any kind of Religious Sect.

When I Rode In “Motorcycle Clubs”
“———Devils, Satan ________, Hells __________”. I Made No “Covenant” with Them Either, but The rest did! The Only Covenant I have made in “Blood”! “The New Covenant “ by The Blood of Jesus” within “The Collective Body of “The Congregation of GOD”.

Good try, be care concerning. Being “Deceptive” the more you practice it, The better you become at it. Unbeknownst.

 

[God's Truth]

Evidently you have no idea who composite the Bible, and what is a bible, and who form creative words to transpired a collectives. It seem you are in complete lost with Drum up Imaginary thoughts concerning “The Compiled “BOOK”.

I think I am the wrong person you should be Disgusting such matters, because all your words, you are relating concerning “TRUTH” is going get you in trouble at The Last DAY.

PS. And is no evidence of “The FEAR” that ought to be Feared.

Do you really understand what a “Deceiver” is?

How many hours, have you place in “Exhausting” the Word study of That word?

And Do you “FEAR” “GOD ALMIGHTY”?
All Evidence, are being transpired about something gradually being ushered in.

So you think hiding behind a bunch of old men who died a long time ago makes you safe?

PS. I am not into any kind of “ fraternities or Religious Cults, or any kind of covenant denominations or Non-denominations of a set religious sect.

So my signature or “MARK” is not place on any kind of Religious Sect.

When I Rode In “Motorcycle Clubs”
“———Devils, Satan ________, Hells __________”. I Made No “Covenant” with Them Either, but The rest did! The Only Covenant I have made in “Blood”! “The New Covenant “ by The Blood of Jesus” within “The Collective Body of “The Congregation of GOD”.

Good try, be care concerning. Being “Deceptive” the more you practice it, The better you become at it. Unbeknownst.

You didn't say you were a Calvinist? You didn't brag about them and their education?

 

[God's Truth]

Evidently you have no idea who composite the Bible, and what is a bible, and who form creative words to transpired a collectives. It seem you are in complete lost with Drum up Imaginary thoughts concerning “The Compiled “BOOK”.

The believers from the beginning to whom these books and letters were written to are what determined these books as scripture.

 

[God's Truth]

The New Testament teachings were by letter and books from the beginning. We can see in 2 Peter 3:15-16 Peter recognizes what Paul writes as scripture.


2 Peter 3:15 Bear in mind that our Lord’s patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him. He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.


Much of the New Testament is letters from the apostles to the churches, and the apostles commanded the churches to share the letters.


Colossians 4:16 After this letter has been read to you, see that it is also read in the church of the Laodiceans and that you in turn read the letter from Laodicea.

1 Thessalonians 5:27 I charge you before the Lord to have this letter read to all the brothers and sisters.



The Christian believers to whom these books and letters were written to is what determined these books as scripture.


Luke 1:1-4 Many have undertaken to draw up an account of the things that have been fulfilled among us, just as they were handed down to us by those who from the first were eyewitnesses and servants of the word. Therefore, since I myself have carefully investigated everything from the beginning, it seemed good also to me to write an orderly account for you, most excellent Theophilus, so that you may know the certainty of the things you have been taught.

John 20:30 Jesus performed many other signs in the presence of his disciples, which are not recorded in this book. 31 But these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Messiah, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name.

As 2 Peter 1:20-21 says. Above all, you must understand that no prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet’s own interpretation. For prophecy never had its origin in the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.



Jesus fulfilled all of the Old Testament, it was all about him, and he quoted it often. The New Testament apostles preached things that were confirmed by checking the Old Testament.



The Bereans of Acts 17:11, “examining the Scriptures daily, to see whether these things were so.”



Paul speaks Old Testament scriptures to the Gentiles many, many times, possibly hundreds of times.

The New Testament is the Old Testament revealed in meaning and fulfilled in prophecy:


2 Peter 3:1 Dear friends, this is now my second letter to you. I have written both of them as reminders to stimulate you to wholesome thinking. 2 I want you to recall the words spoken in the past by the holy prophets and the command given by our Lord and Savior through your apostles.

Romans 16:25-27 Now to him who is able to establish you by my gospel and the proclamation of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery hidden for long ages past, but now revealed and made known through the prophetic writings by the command of the eternal God, so that all nations might believe and obey him–to the only wise God be glory forever through Jesus Christ! Amen.

2 Timothy 3:14 But as for you, continue in what you have learned and have become convinced of, because you know those from whom you learned, and how from infancy you have known the holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.

 

[PloughBoy]

The believers from the beginning to whom these books and letters were written to are what determined these books as scripture.

May I ask, what does that mean?

 

[PloughBoy]

The New Testament teachings were by letter and books from the beginning. We can see in 2 Peter 3:15-16 Peter recognizes what Paul writes as scripture.


2 Peter 3:15 Bear in mind that our Lord’s patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him. He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.


Much of the New Testament is letters from the apostles to the churches, and the apostles commanded the churches to share the letters.


Colossians 4:16 After this letter has been read to you, see that it is also read in the church of the Laodiceans and that you in turn read the letter from Laodicea.

1 Thessalonians 5:27 I charge you before the Lord to have this letter read to all the brothers and sisters.



The Christian believers to whom these books and letters were written to is what determined these books as scripture.


Luke 1:1-4 Many have undertaken to draw up an account of the things that have been fulfilled among us, just as they were handed down to us by those who from the first were eyewitnesses and servants of the word. Therefore, since I myself have carefully investigated everything from the beginning, it seemed good also to me to write an orderly account for you, most excellent Theophilus, so that you may know the certainty of the things you have been taught.

John 20:30 Jesus performed many other signs in the presence of his disciples, which are not recorded in this book. 31 But these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Messiah, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name.

As 2 Peter 1:20-21 says. Above all, you must understand that no prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet’s own interpretation. For prophecy never had its origin in the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.



Jesus fulfilled all of the Old Testament, it was all about him, and he quoted it often. The New Testament apostles preached things that were confirmed by checking the Old Testament.



The Bereans of Acts 17:11, “examining the Scriptures daily, to see whether these things were so.”



Paul speaks Old Testament scriptures to the Gentiles many, many times, possibly hundreds of times.

The New Testament is the Old Testament revealed in meaning and fulfilled in prophecy:


2 Peter 3:1 Dear friends, this is now my second letter to you. I have written both of them as reminders to stimulate you to wholesome thinking. 2 I want you to recall the words spoken in the past by the holy prophets and the command given by our Lord and Savior through your apostles.

Romans 16:25-27 Now to him who is able to establish you by my gospel and the proclamation of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery hidden for long ages past, but now revealed and made known through the prophetic writings by the command of the eternal God, so that all nations might believe and obey him–to the only wise God be glory forever through Jesus Christ! Amen.

2 Timothy 3:14 But as for you, continue in what you have learned and have become convinced of, because you know those from whom you learned, and how from infancy you have known the holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.

And sir, I sure do not understand what you are alluding to here.

 

[God's Truth]

May I ask, what does that mean?

The people who gathered together books and letters and called them scripture...it was the books and letters to whom the books and letters were written for, the first Christians.

Many think the Catholics determined what books were to be included in the Bible, because over the centuries people publicly listed the books that they used. There were canons put together and used by people even before the Catholics. Different people gave personal statements about the books and letters, but they were only commenting on the books and letters that the first Christians used from the beginning. They had only acknowledged those books early Christian communities already accepted as scripture.

The Catholics started to introduce heresies in approximately 310 A.D. The Roman Catholic Church, which taught things contrary to the Bible, began with the prayers for the dead and the sign of the Cross. The Catholics continued to bring in many false teachings.

The Catholic denomination might not have started out in grave error, but it is definitely what ended up happening.

Just because they use the books and letters we now all use as the Bible, doesn't mean they teach the truth.

The books and letters are the scriptures and the truth, not the way the Catholics and or Calvinists claim they mean.

We can have Jesus himself as our Teacher by doing what he says.

We are not to go by what the Catholic popes say, or what Luther says, or Calvin, etc.

We do what Jesus says and he becomes our Teacher.

 

[God's Truth]

And sir, I sure do not understand what you are alluding to here.

Your post to me earlier was about you giving kudos and honor to men of denominations as being the ones who gave us the scriptures.

I am just explaining that the books and letters they say are scripture---those books and letters were already determined as scripture by the first Christians to whom they were written to.

Just because someone has the books and letters doesn't mean they can tell you what they mean.

Jesus is the one who reveals what they mean, and he says he does that for those who get his teachings and do what he says.

 

[PloughBoy]

Your post to me earlier was about you giving kudos and honor to men of denominations as being the ones who gave us the scriptures.

I am just explaining that the books and letters they say are scripture---those books and letters were already determined as scripture by the first Christians to whom they were written to.

Just because someone has the books and letters doesn't mean they can tell you what they mean.

Jesus is the one who reveals what they mean, and he says he does that for those who get his teachings and do what he says.

Your quote:
“Your post to me earlier was about you giving kudos and honor to men of denominations as being the ones who gave us the scriptures.”


I am sorry sir, your Comprehension and Assessment is 100% dead wrong.

You are. Running on another Rail.

 

[God's Truth]

Your quote:
“Your post to me earlier was about you giving kudos and honor to men of denominations as being the ones who gave us the scriptures.”


I am sorry sir, your Comprehension and Assessment is 100% dead wrong.

You are. Running on another Rail.

Then explain what you mean when you said:

"Evidently you have no idea who composite the Bible, and what is a bible, and who form creative words to transpired a collectives. It seem you are in complete lost with Drum up Imaginary thoughts concerning “The Compiled “BOOK”."



You are NOT speaking the truth about me.

 

[God's Truth]

@PloughBoy

You also said:

"Well, all the Brilliant, minds That Gathered at “The Synod Of Dort” for a few Months thought “Calvin’s” explanation was “Theological Sound” and some of Them were not even “Calvinist”!

And I know, I am no where near Those “Biblical Scholars”,
And not fit to be in the same room."




That is what you said to me.
You said the BRILLIANT MINDS, the Calvinists.



You said:
"They Read The Real “Copied Manuscript “ of The “Holy Scripture” what The BOOK and What GOD actually said. And not what a interpreter said. Using replace words and has a different meaning of Thought in many places, because in some places there are no translation to carry the [thought] words to replace or have the same identity as the Original Wording."




See that^^^
You BRAGGED on them and said they had the real copies...
You said they didn't need an Interpreter!
YOU ARE WRONG THOUGH FOR JESUS IS OUR INTERPRETER.



You bragged on John Calvin and his followers!:


"A Calvinist, Think The Deepness of “GOD”,

It is not teaching, it is Arriving To A Place in “GOD’S TRUTH”!"


You also said this about the man John Calvin:


"Methodist is Teaching
Pentecostalism is Teaching
Baptist is about Teaching
Roman Catholic is about Teaching
And …etc.

“Calvinism” is about Arriving to a Place In “GOD”."




You are bragging about a man NAMED JOHN CALVIN and people who followed him.
John Calvin taught things that are wrong!

 

[God's Truth]

Your quote:
“Your post to me earlier was about you giving kudos and honor to men of denominations as being the ones who gave us the scriptures.”


I am sorry sir, your Comprehension and Assessment is 100% dead wrong.

You are. Running on another Rail.

You don't even know what you are saying? Did you forget? lol Sad.

 

[PloughBoy]

Your quote:
“Your post to me earlier was about you giving kudos and honor to men of denominations as being the ones who gave us the scriptures.”


I am sorry sir, your Comprehension and Assessment is 100% dead wrong.

@PloughBoy

You also said:

"Well, all the Brilliant, minds That Gathered at “The Synod Of Dort” for a few Months thought “Calvin’s” explanation was “Theological Sound” and some of Them were not even “Calvinist”!

And I know, I am no where near Those “Biblical Scholars”,
And not fit to be in the same room."




That is what you said to me.
You said the BRILLIANT MINDS, the Calvinists.



You said:
"They Read The Real “Copied Manuscript “ of The “Holy Scripture” what The BOOK and What GOD actually said. And not what a interpreter said. Using replace words and has a different meaning of Thought in many places, because in some places there are no translation to carry the [thought] words to replace or have the same identity as the Original Wording."




See that^^^
You BRAGGED on them and said they had the real copies...
You said they didn't need an Interpreter!
YOU ARE WRONG THOUGH FOR JESUS IS OUR INTERPRETER.



You bragged on John Calvin and his followers!:


"A Calvinist, Think The Deepness of “GOD”,

It is not teaching, it is Arriving To A Place in “GOD’S TRUTH”!"


You also said this about the man John Calvin:


"Methodist is Teaching
Pentecostalism is Teaching
Baptist is about Teaching
Roman Catholic is about Teaching
And …etc.

“Calvinism” is about Arriving to a Place In “GOD”."




You are bragging about a man NAMED JOHN CALVIN and people who followed him.
John Calvin taught things that are wrong!

I am sorry, you cannot pick post stick from my statement in sentence in partiality. And sum up the matter in question. It must be taken as a “Whole” pertaining to this in which is concern cannot be taken in a private Partial set.

It cannot happen. I have Been Precise, in laymen terms as I can be.

Sorry for The Inconvenience.

 

[PloughBoy]

You don't even know what you are saying? Did you forget? lol Sad.

Sad for who, it seems you are the one in Dilemma. I am content. You are the one in Argument.

 

[PloughBoy]

Then explain what you mean when you said:

"Evidently you have no idea who composite the Bible, and what is a bible, and who form creative words to transpired a collectives. It seem you are in complete lost with Drum up Imaginary thoughts concerning “The Compiled “BOOK”."



You are NOT speaking the truth about me.

I am sorry, are you familiar with expression of communicating words and Differences?

It seems you are having a hard time at distinguishing the collective words of Expressions of Compile thought patterns.

 

[Christ4Ever]

Dear Members,
Does the thread need to be closed?
It has moved away into anything but what the title of this thread is called "Surveys: Most Adult US Christians don't believe The Holy Spirit is real: study"
Back on point please.
With the Love of Christ Jesus.
Moderator
Nick
\o/
<><

 

[God's Truth]

I am sorry, you cannot pick post stick from my statement in sentence in partiality. And sum up the matter in question. It must be taken as a “Whole” pertaining to this in which is concern cannot be taken in a private Partial set.

It cannot happen. I have Been Precise, in laymen terms as I can be.

Sorry for The Inconvenience.

You said I was running on another rail. I am dedicated to reading what you post and figuring out what you are saying.
You spoke of honor towards Calvinism.
Is this still your position or not?

 

[God's Truth]

Dear Members,
Does the thread need to be closed?
It has moved away into anything but what the title of this thread is called "Surveys: Most Adult US Christians don't believe The Holy Spirit is real: study"
Back on point please.
With the Love of Christ Jesus.
Moderator
Nick
\o/
<><

Would you like to intervene and give a brief explanation of what ploughboy is saying?

 

[God's Truth]

@Christ4Ever

Could you read this thread topic and explain it to me?

alarming to me, down through the years my Assessment have come to be the same. And I better not, speak to many about it and mention any thing about “The Spirit of GOD” Never. You come into such a fear to even mention “The Parakletos name to them. But everybody proclaims they have “The Paracletos” of GOD. Or the “HS”. I have never meant anyone who have said they don’t have it, except a “child”.