Stumbling in sin, versus falling away! Hebrews 6

[Twistie]

The very core of the gospel and why jesus came is exactly this. He came to save us from what we can't do. And as long as we repent he is faithful and forgive us. He took the sin on himself. So we can go to heaven. Anyone denying this,is yet not a believer

It just floors me how many chrsitians will accuse ya of judgement because ya test their spirit like they all high n mighty n they should not be tested..
When one says Abba is a tyrant because of the laws and orders and ways He set that there shows me where one is at.. its written In Him there is no darkness...i believe this is why we must capture every thought and ponder with the Lord ya know?..i mean shoot anyone who tells me they are perfect n are dot on with everything the Lord says because they themselves are sinless in the human form because they celebrate this or that just sounds totally absurd why we must have a One on One relationship with the Lord.. allow Him the time He needs to clean us up n not to go run and speak on things we know nothing about until He shows us the whole picture ya know?..i remember the first time I truly heard Him when He started to reveal things to me i wanted to run n tell all like who dont.? But then He sat me down n showed me we must get the full message not parts n run..when we do that we ourselves are running ahead of Him.. idk i probably sound mad (crazy) n im cool with that lol

Hope alls well

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[JunoTheServant]

If ya think the day the Lord has made includes pagan days that just shows me where your heart is at like when ya called Abba a tyrant then tried to back paddle..

I said God is a righteous Tyrant. Those were my words. You cherry picked the tyrant word and ran with it. A tyrant is also defined as someone with absolute power. In no way I was trying to say GOD is unjust, I am simply pointing out that no one can stop him. So I explained further to clarify my point.

Do you think it is your own power that enable to do what is right??

Psalm 37: 23
23 The steps of a good man are ordered by the Lord: and he delighteth in his way.

Do what God ask you to do and he will literally order your steps and God said to keep his commandments. So you have a choice to obey or disobey what he ask you to do. I have the power to what God tells me to do. If I fail, I get back up dust myself off and keep trying.

Do you think a man can really teach spiritual lessons? Do you think one is above another?

Why do you keep asking me if I think? I read the bible on the line and believe what it says.

I know a man can teach spiritual lessons because God gives men the holy spirit to do just that. So if the preacher is wise you will gain knowledge because he will teach what's in the bible. Nothing is above God's word, it says what it says.

Ecclesiastes 12: 9 - 10
9 And moreover, because the preacher was wise, he still taught the people knowledge; yea, he gave good heed, and sought out, and set in order many proverbs.

10 The preacher sought to find out acceptable words: and that which was written was upright, even words of truth.

Any preacher who says you can bless the pork and eat it, is a liar, that's not inside this bible.

Perhaps dont get so offended when one is questioning ya..His children are told to test every Spirit n that is all you are to me at least just another Spirit i have come in contact with

Funny because I was trying your spirit and that of everyone else who has the audacity to say you don't need to keep God's commandments.

1 John 2: 1 - 4
1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
(Same thing I been saying, if you fall Jesus will advocate for you. If you are a willful sinner he will not advocate for you. I said this already in the thread.)
2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
(That conditional word "IF" keeps showing up, interesting)
4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

So the people who are lying are the people claiming you don't need to keep God's law. See how simple this bible is when you read it on the line?

 

[Twistie]

I said God is a righteous Tyrant. Those were my words. You cherry picked the tyrant word and ran with it. A tyrant is also defined as someone with absolute power. In no way I was trying to say GOD is unjust, I am simply pointing out that no one can stop him. So I explained further to clarify my point.

Psalm 37: 23
23 The steps of a good man are ordered by the Lord: and he delighteth in his way.

Do what God ask you to do and he will literally order your steps and God said to keep his commandments. So you have a choice to obey or disobey what he ask you to do. I have the power to what God tells me to do. If I fail, I get back up dust myself off and keep trying.


Why do you keep asking me if I think? I read the bible on the line and believe what it says.

I know a man can teach spiritual lessons because God gives men the holy spirit to do just that. So if the preacher is wise you will gain knowledge because he will teach what's in the bible. Nothing is above God's word, it says what it says.

Ecclesiastes 12: 9 - 10
9 And moreover, because the preacher was wise, he still taught the people knowledge; yea, he gave good heed, and sought out, and set in order many proverbs.

10 The preacher sought to find out acceptable words: and that which was written was upright, even words of truth.

Any preacher who says you can bless the pork and eat it, is a liar, that's not inside this bible.

Funny because I was trying your spirit and that of everyone else who has the audacity to say you don't need to keep God's commandments.

1 John 2: 1 - 4
1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
(Same thing I been saying, if you fall Jesus will advocate for you. If you are a willful sinner he will not advocate for you. I said this already in the thread.)
2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
(That conditional word "IF" keeps showing up, interesting)
4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

So the people who are lying are the people claiming you don't need to keep God's law. See how simple this bible is when you read it on the line?

Okay all I need to know wanted to see where you are at spiritually..ya seem like a very agitated Spirit...
I sure hope ya keep seeking Him tho..One Teacher One Way One Truth..n no flesh can teach ya a spiritual lessons..Only the Spirit can reveal..just fyi..

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[JunoTheServant]

That's exactly the thing, according to Jesus, noone is righteous, and everyone are doing sin. Paul says who will deliver us from the problem with the sin nature, and points to Jesus. While we are in this body, we will never be perfect. And that's why he came

Yes Jesus came so you can benefit from obedience before he came it didn't matter if you did because you will still die but now you got a chance through the blood of Christ.

I have been a teacher for years and I love a student who tries. I know we can't get a 100% but we can still pass the test. God said to keep his commandments. Yet someone will always make the argument that we are sinners so why bother. Well, because Jesus said to do it. Then just do it. People that whine about it reminds me math students who always claim "I suck at math why bother trying". You think God wants to work with that kind of attitude?

When you are trying God will show up and start correcting you just like how I would correct my math students on where they went wrong. If I misunderstood what I am to do on the Sabbath God sends someone to correct me. He might even punish me to get my attention. If you are not getting corrected you are not a child of God. I have discussed all of this with you already along with scriptures but you keep circling back to the same thing because you don't want to actually obey God just make excuses.

 

[JunoTheServant]

Okay all I need to know wanted to see where you are at spiritually..ya seem like a very agitated Spirit...
I sure hope ya keep seeking Him tho..One Teacher One Way One Truth..n no flesh can teach ya a spiritual lessons..Only the Spirit can reveal..just fyi..

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So you are telling me that Moses and the prophets didn't teach spiritual lessons? Are you telling me that this bible which was written by the prophets isn't a spiritual book?

Always someone claiming one who speaks the truth to have an agitated spirit.

Have a good day.

 

[Hannah1]

Yes Jesus came so you can benefit from obedience before he came it didn't matter if you did because you will still die but now you got a chance through the blood of Christ.

I have been a teacher for years and I love a student who tries. I know we can't get a 100% but we can still pass the test. God said to keep his commandments. Yet someone will always make the argument that we are sinners so why bother. Well, because Jesus said to do it. Then just do it. People that whine about it reminds me math students who always claim "I suck at math why bother trying". You think God wants to work with that kind of attitude?

When you are trying God will show up and start correcting you just like how I would correct my math students on where they went wrong. If I misunderstood what I am to do on the Sabbath God sends someone to correct me. He might even punish me to get my attention. If you are not getting corrected you are not a child of God. I have discussed all of this with you already along with scriptures but you keep circling back to the same thing because you don't want to actually obey God just make excuses.

You seem to ignore how God says we can not be perfect and sinless in this body.
No matter efforts or what one does.