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Speaking the Truth in Love

Words can be very powerful if not used
Words are Powerful no matter how they are used. Our Words are either working for us or against us.


But sometimes we have to be discerning.
Because not everyone is on the same level of maturity. I cannot talk to a 2 year old child the way i talk to a 15 year old man.

True and that's why we have 50 year old babies who should be leaders in their faith but never shed their Spiritual pampers all the while walking with God for 50 years.

If we refuse to Speak and Explain the Truth then we are aiding in non growth and that's Not The Love Of God.

Blessings
 
Very good Point sister....Can you elaborate a bit? How would that apply to adult Christians?

Greetings sir,

What do you mean sir, adult Christians or matured Christians? Because matured Christians they knows what is the meaning of true Love.

I am not saying that we trash out truth while rebuking someone, i am saying that there are WAYS how to say our words while not compromising the truth, we called it the ART of SPEAKING.

Thank you sir, i do respect each and everyone of you here and i do, really do thankful that i am learning so much from this site.

“Now we who are strong [in our convictions and faith] ought to [patiently] put up with the weaknesses of those who are not strong, and not just please ourselves. Let each one of us [make it a practice to] please his neighbor for his good, to build him up spiritually.”
‭‭ROMANS‬ ‭15:1-2‬ ‭

By the way sir, maturity of a Christian, doesn’t come on age or how long he has been in the ministry.
 
Greetings sir,

What do you mean sir, adult Christians or matured Christians? Because matured Christians they knows what is the meaning of true Love.

I am not saying that we trash out truth while rebuking someone, i am saying that there are WAYS how to say our words while not compromising the truth, we called it the ART of SPEAKING.

Thank you sir, i do respect each and everyone of you here and i do, really do thankful that i am learning so much from this site.

“Now we who are strong [in our convictions and faith] ought to [patiently] put up with the weaknesses of those who are not strong, and not just please ourselves. Let each one of us [make it a practice to] please his neighbor for his good, to build him up spiritually.”
‭‭ROMANS‬ ‭15:1-2‬ ‭

By the way sir, maturity of a Christian, doesn’t come on age or how long he has been in the ministry.
You mentioned that we must speak to a two year old child differently than we would to a 15 year old boy. Then we need to speak differently again to an adult....Yes...Then you do have to speak to baby Christians differently than to mature Christians....Without ever compromising on the truth.....Complicated!
 
Then you do have to speak to baby Christians differently than to mature Christians

If i am going to share the love of Christ to baby Christian, or to someone who got lost, i know i need to go back to the basic of what love of Christ is.

I can’t share to them directly to The Word in Revelations because i know they will get choked.

Thank you sir, wont be able to respond to you soon.
 
Speaking the Truth in Love is the title of this thread.

Speaking Truth is of Key Importance.

If you concentrate on pleasing the flesh with feel good words all you accomplished is making the flesh happy and done nothing to equip them to over come.

ministering to babies vs mature is something all together different.

You may say, well it depends on their level of understanding........ Ask your self how does this level of understanding grow if you Replace Truth with Feel Good Words? It doesn't. They leave happy confusing it with Gods Peace thinking all will be ok and soon learn.....nothing changed for the better. Then they get mad at God and want to quit.

Truth of the Word is Priority.

His Truth Will Make You Free
Blessings
 
Greetings,

Speaking the Truth in Love is the title of this thread.

Speaking Truth is of Key Importance.

If you concentrate on pleasing the flesh with feel good words all you accomplished is making the flesh happy and done nothing to equip them to over come.

ministering to babies vs mature is something all together different.

You may say, well it depends on their level of understanding........ Ask your self how does this level of understanding grow if you Replace Truth with Feel Good Words? It doesn't. They leave happy confusing it with Gods Peace thinking all will be ok and soon learn.....nothing changed for the better. Then they get mad at God and want to quit.

Truth of the Word is Priority.

His Truth Will Make You Free
Blessings

'Speaking the truth in love' is from Ephesians 4:15 and has nothing to do with what you are putting forth .
To understand it, one needs to read the whole chapter after recognizing what the truth is that the Apostle spoke of.

Yes, the truth will make you free, indeed. Christ and Him crucified. Why was He crucified?

Ignoring the context of a snippet of a verse to make an invalid point is not all that beneficial to oneself.


If you speak Truth of Gods Word and Christians get offended then they need to find out why Gods Word Offended them.....its called FLESH.

BLESSINGS

Christians are not offended with the truth for it is the Truth that set them free. Some were offended when Jesus told them that except they eat His flesh and drink His blood they have no life in them.
It is those who get offended by the Gospel who reject God's Word, Who is the Life.

What you are talking about is not the truth as we are to speak it. And, how will they, who do not yet believe, believe, if you [we] do not speak it,

Christ died for the sin of the world because of God's love for the world.
That you may grow in love, speak the truth.
Many oppose the truth and speak falsely against the truth, against the Son of God, therefore, we are encouraged and exhorted to speak the truth, which is that Jesus is the Son of God, the Christ and there is none other name given amongst men whereby we must be saved.

Using worldly, motivational talk and worldly wisdom will only tickle the ears of the world and they will nod their heads and usually soon forget.
What some are suggesting here and on other threads for the purpose of propagating and justifying worldly wisdom is completely out of line.

May i suggest that those who have ears hear?

If you wish to discuss 'Speaking the truth in love....' do so in context.

I know that some of you mean well but meaning well will not save anyone nor direct them in the Truth.

Also, forget the idea of 'mother knows best' because not only do some mothers not know best, others also do not go about explaining it best [same for some dads] and also because there will come a time when many will know that God knows best and some of those will even address Him as Lord.
God gave His best in His Son, Yes, God knows best and all He ever said about the Truth that we may know is, "
This is My beloved Son, in Whom I am well pleased." and that is the truth in love to speak.




Also, if you want to discuss political correctness it may be worthwhile considering two things [which can also include reference to the one time Jesus 'used a whip', one time.]

It was the leaders who had the bad doctrine, who were offended by the Son, who demanded correctness. Apostles were instructed to not speak the truth, but the Apostles did speak it, which was 'politically incorrect'. They spoke of the love of God in sending His Son declaring that to be the Truth.

There are many in today's world who are not politically correct. [The media would have people believe] Jihadists are not.[ I have not met any], Neo Nazi's are not politically correct. Many Hindu's likewise, to name only a few.
Does that make any of them and what they say, Truth? Will any of them not perish because they are not willing to be politically correct?
Presenting the argument here [or elsewhere at TalkJesus ] of political correctness to back up misuse of Scripture and supporting it, especially for self justifying purposes, may find oneself also being quite politically incorrect as far as what is acceptable here.
This is not debatable


Bless you ....><>

ps... there is one other point to mention.... some may also use the idea of what proceeds from a persons mouth reveals their heart.....
perhaps context here is needed as well?

Matthew 12:34
You brood of vipers! How can you speak good, when you are evil? For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks

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That whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have eternal life. For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not His Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through Him might be saved. He that believeth on Him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
John 3:15-21

and, this is the offensive truth...
Jesus saith unto him, I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by Me.
John 14:6
 
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If you concentrate on pleasing the flesh with feel good words all you accomplished is making the flesh happy and done nothing to equip them to over come.


just like many of the preachers on TV and around the world do today, only tell us what the flesh wants to here, never tells us about what we need to here, about the temptations of the world.

yet when do correct a a person the bible seems to give us good instruction on that also

Galatians 6:1
Brothers, if anyone is caught in any transgression, you who are spiritual should restore him in a spirit of gentleness. Keep watch on yourself, lest you too be tempted.
 
the flesh can talk about the word of God all day long and if not done in the spirit is it any good??
 
the flesh can talk about the word of God all day long and if not done in the spirit is it any good??

Good point. It seems there is a balance here.
The old saying is "we can love people straight to hell".

If we love people, but never tell them the truth... what good is that love? Especially in the light of eternity. One day when those people are burning in hell, are they going to remember you loved them, or that you never told them the truth?
..on the other hand...
If we tell people the truth, in a harsh, uncaring, unloving way... are they going to receive it? (sometimes they do anyway)

When it comes to speaking in the Spirit, the two thing above also matter. But It seems we can love "in degrees" so to speak.

For example, Billy Graham was a speaker at a large evangelical crusade. There could be thousands of people there. He might have "known" very few of them, possibly 3 or 4 of them at most. But he preaches on spending eternity in heaven or hell.
hundreds of people come up to receive Jesus at the end of the service. At a certain level, Billy Graham loved those people, but he doesn't really know most of them. Still they received his message.
He always prayed before delivering a message, and it seems God always gave him the right words.

On a more personal level.
Maybe you have someone you are close to... a brother or sister, a son or a daughter, a mother or father, a friend at work,... or maybe even a spouse, who isn't saved.
You "know" them. You talk to them every day. Converse with them, eat with them, work with them, just... spend time with them almost every day. You build a relationship with them.
You've shared the salvation message with them, they know how you feel. You've prayed, you've cried, you spoke with love and compassion... but they don't want to listen. (Although some do)
We all know someone like this. Sometimes familiarity breeds contempt. We want that person to get saved... "so badly". So we share the gospel with them over and over again... to the point it becomes a sore spot.
They know you love them... they KNOW it. But they're just tired of you harping on them over and over again. Sometimes this can drive a wedge between people.

There have been total strangers, random people who I just met 10 minutes ago... on a plane, at a restaurant, at a park, that I felt prompted by the Holy Spirit to share Jesus with. Some even received Him after this moment.
There have been other times, when I have felt compelled by the Spirit to share with close loved ones, they listen. Some can repeat the words I'm going to say before I say them. But they don't receive it.

Just because we speak in the Spirit is no guarantee people will always receive it. Just because we speak in love is no guarantee either. It's been my experience, there's very few times the Spirit
will ever say "don't share Jesus with that person." But as others have said, it does take a little discernment in the Spirit to know when. One advantage a pastor like Billy Graham had was... the people who
were at the service came looking for something. They might not have even known what it was. The people we meet in life, aren't always looking... they "already have it figured out", or so they think so.

While some of that can be heartbreaking.... I have also had this happen...
Someone who I have been praying for and witnessing to for a long time never received what I had to say, then after years and years someone else shares Jesus with them... and they receive it.
... but praise God anyway!!

1 Cor 3:7; So then neither the one who plants nor the one who waters is anything, but God who causes the growth.
1 Cor 3:8; Now he who plants and he who waters are one; but each will receive his own reward according to his own labor.
 
actually that is your flesh speaking you just dont see it

Dave you said the above to this.
If you speak Truth of Gods Word and people get offended then they need to find out why Gods Word Offended them.....its called FLESH.

BLESSINGS

Care to explain?
Blessings
 
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the flesh can talk about the word of God all day long and if not done in the spirit is it any good??
Yes it is. The word is life on its own. The feeling of God's anointing will come. This reminds me of how preachers need to be able to preach despite the logs in their eyes. There will ''always'' be logs in our eyes.
 
Yes it is. The word is life on its own. The feeling of God's anointing will come. This reminds me of how preachers need to be able to preach despite the logs in their eyes. There will ''always'' be logs in our eyes.
Of what use are feelings? Where does the Word say there will always be logs in our eyes? Unless we want to feel the logs? What does the Word say?
 
Of what use are feelings? Where does the Word say there will always be logs in our eyes? Unless we want to feel the logs? What does the Word say?

Nobody is perfect, there is always a log of sort in our eye. Scripture says only God is perfect Mark 10:18.

Then just to add more clarity to preachers. When a preacher steps on to stage to preach, he likely just had an argument with his wife, he swore at someone whilst driving to church, he had some people at church that frustrated him. The devil will always try get a preacher off balance just before a sermon. If that preacher waited until he was in a perfect spiritual state, he would probably only preach 1/10 sermons.
 
Nobody is perfect, there is always a log of sort in our eye. Scripture says only God is perfect Mark 10:18.

Then just to add more clarity to preachers. When a preacher steps on to stage to preach, he likely just had an argument with his wife, he swore at someone whilst driving to church, he had some people at church that frustrated him. The devil will always try get a preacher off balance just before a sermon. If that preacher waited until he was in a perfect spiritual state, he would probably only preach 1/10 sermons.
I will concede that point to a degree.....God does tell us to be perfect...so it is possible. All that preacher has to do is apologize and repent.....kick the devil's butt, then preach
 
Speaking the truth in love

Is not ear tickling

Is not anything to do with political correctness

Is not steeped in new age, modern, feel good terminology.


Speaking the truth in love

Does not compromise the truth

Has compassion for the lost, straying or struggling soul

Is centred on Jesus and Biblical truth.


They say unto Him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act. Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest Thou? This they said, tempting Him, that they might have to accuse Him. But Jesus stooped down, and with His finger wrote on the ground, as though He heard them not. So when they continued asking him, He lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her. And again He stooped down, and wrote on the ground. And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst. When Jesus had lifted up Himself, and saw none but the woman, He said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee? She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.
John 8:4-11


Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love Me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of Myself, but He sent Me.

Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. And because I tell you the truth, ye believe Me not. Which of you convinceth Me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe Me? He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.
John 8:42-47
 
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What we all need to seek to speak is this:

For we are not as many, which corrupt the word of God: but as of sincerity, but as of God, in the sight of God speak we in Christ.
2Corinthians 2:17
 
“Therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, put on tender mercies, kindness, humility, meekness, longsuffering; bearing with one another, and forgiving one another, if anyone has a complaint against another; even as Christ forgave you, so you also must do.

But above all these things put on Love which is the bond of perfection.

And let the peace of God rule in your hearts, to which also you were called in ONE BODY; and be thankful.”
‭‭Colossians‬ ‭3:12-15‬

Blessed day everyone :)

Shalom!
 
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