Sons of God

JerryfromMass said:
No. You'd be wrong. All you need do is read English properly to see I was referring to angels in good stead with God, i.e., God's messengers. Love you, bro.
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Jerry...You really don't know what you're talking about.....You just spit out words to see how they splatter and you make no sense at all....Pitiful.
 
B-A-C said:
Gen 19:1; Now the two angels came to Sodom in the evening, and Lot was sitting in the gate of Sodom. When Lot saw them, he rose to meet them, and he bowed himself with his face toward the ground.
Gen 19:10; But the men reached out their hands and pulled Lot into the house with them, and shut the door.
Gen 19:11; And they struck the men who were at the doorway of the house with blindness, both small and great, so that they became weary trying to find the door.

It seems these angels physically grabbed Lot and pulled him into the house.
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Yes, thanks BAC, I get so tired of Butch5 pretending he doesnt know what I am talking about, this is all a game to him, I think his sole purpose here is to put as much faithlessness as possible into the children of God. He knows we base alot of what we believe on faith, and he attacks it wherever he can, and he never admits he wrong, at least not that I have seen.

There is also when the angels in Genesis 18

18 1 Then the Lord appeared to him by [a]the terebinth trees of Mamre, as he was sitting in the tent door in the heat of the day. 2 So he lifted his eyes and looked, and behold, three men were standing by him; and when he saw them, he ran from the tent door to meet them, and bowed himself to the ground, 3 and said, “My Lord, if I have now found favor in Your sight, do not pass on by Your servant. 4 Please let a little water be brought, and wash your feet, and rest yourselves under the tree. 5 And I will bring a morsel of bread, that you may refresh your hearts. After that you may pass by, inasmuch as you have come to your servant.”
They said, “Do as you have said.”
6 So Abraham hurried into the tent to Sarah and said, “Quickly, make ready three measures of fine meal; knead it and make cakes.” 7 And Abraham ran to the herd, took a tender and good calf, gave it to a young man, and he hastened to prepare it. 8 So he took butter and milk and the calf which he had prepared, and set it before them; and he stood by them under the tree as they ate.

Its clear they were solid enough to have their feet washed and to be handed food and to eat it. These are just the two that come to mind.
 
Admon Mikha'el said:
Well sir, You're going to have to put "experience" aside and go by the Word...What does the Word say? What does John 20:19 say?
19 In the evening that same day, the first day of the week, when the talmidim were gathered together behind locked doors out of fear of the Judeans, Yeshua came, stood in the middle and said, “Shalom aleikhem!”
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The door was locked and Jesus came in and stood in the midst of them.. THAT'S what happened...He walked through a locked door and stood in the midst of them.... A person would need help to get that one wrong!
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Where does it say He walked through the door? You're assuming that. Maybe He walked through the wall. Maybe God put Him like He did with, Enoch, Elijah, and Philip.
But you didnt answer my question. Why should I think He walked through the door rather than having God put Him there?

You see, this is exactly why I don't do as you suggest. People assume He walked through the door and then claim they will have a "spiritual" body that can walk through walls. The Scriptures say no such thing. Let me ask you a question. If Jesus could simply walk through solid matter, why did the angels have to move the stone away from the tomb? Why didn't He just walk through it?

I don't see why I should make an unwarranted assumption when I have a more plausible answer which has examples in Scripture.
 
Butch5 said:
Where does it say He walked through the door? You're assuming that. Maybe He walked through the wall. Maybe God put Him like He did with, Enoch, Elijah, and Philip.
But you didnt answer my question. Why should I think He walked through the door rather than having God put Him there?

You see, this is exactly why I don't do as you suggest. People assume He walked through the door and then claim they will have a "spiritual" body that can walk through walls. The Scriptures say no such thing. Let me ask you a question. If Jesus could simply walk through solid matter, why did the angels have to move the stone away from the tomb? Why didn't He just walk through it?

I don't see why I should make an unwarranted assumption when I have a more plausible answer which has examples in Scripture.
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The Word does not say Jesus literally walked through walls or doors. Jesus simply appeared then was not. Which means Jesus had the ability to appear and disappear at will.
 
Brad Huber said:
They have the ability to make themselves a body. To switch back and forth tween spirit and material. Angels are spirits and yet, there are examples of them being solid, perhaps something like the glorified body Jesus had, or that we are promised. As to creating a seed of life to inject into a female, that I am unsure of, but I dont need to know all to see truth.
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Jude 1 speaks of angels having engaged in sex with humans.
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Bible Gateway passage: Jude - English Standard Version

Greeting - Jude, a servant of Jesus Christ and brother of James, To those who are called, beloved in God the Father and kept for Jesus Christ: May mercy, peace, and love be multiplied to you. Judgment on False Teachers - Beloved, although I was very eager to write to you about our common...
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I'm kind of out of it today...and darn! My wife made me eat again...Its bugsome....I rarely get hungry anymore and forget about eating...Then she gets all upset that I didn't eat....Women! LOL She's such a wonderful wife!!!!!!!!!
 
JerryfromMass said:
The Word does not say Jesus literally walked through walls or doors. Jesus simply appeared then was not. Which means Jesus had the ability to appear and disappear at will.
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I agree that it doesn't say He walked through doors or walls. It also doesn't say He can appear and disappear at will.
 
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