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Still any religion other than true christianity is anti-christ. That said I think this son of perdition is one single entity that will be clearly revealed and distinguishable from the other candidates..... like the beast would be when every single person begins to worship him and take its mark.


i totally understand the other views and their potential correctness. but there seems to be many candidates really.

so i dont really know, there should be something that seperates this son of perdition from all other false believing groups, which world has many even under name of "christianity"
 
iscariot in Strong's Greek is...

2469. Iskariotes is-kar-ee-o'-tace of Hebrew origin (probably 377 and 7149); inhabitant of Kerioth; Iscariotes (i.e. Keriothite), an epithet of Judas the traitor:--Iscariot.

Antichrist in Strong's Greek is defined as...

500. antichristos an-tee'-khris-tos from 473 and 5547; an opponent of the Messiah:--antichrist.

An ''entity'' in the world today is simply ''world ruling powers'',you can't limit it down to the RCC,the RCC is Just a part of Babylon.
Communism is one of those entities and IS antichristian!
The money system is another part of world ruling powers and so on and so forth,I do not think it is only limited to the RCC,I think they are only a part of it.

Here is a little info from a Q and A...

Who is the Antichrist?

The term" antichrist" appears in only
four verses of the New Testament. All four
yerses are in first and second John:
1 John.2:18. "Little children, it is the
last time; and as ye have heard that
antichrist shall come, even now are there
many antichrists; whereby we know that
it is the last time."
1 John 2:22. "Who is a liar, but he that
denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is
antichrist that denieth the Father and the
Son."
1 John 4:3. "And every spirit that confesseth
not that Jesus Christ is come in
the flesh, is not of God; and this is that
spirit of antichrist. . ."
2 John 7. "For many deceivers are
entered into the world, who confess not
that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh.
This is a deceiver and an antichrist."
It is obvious from reading these passages,
that John had no conception of
some great individual, at the end of the
age, rising up to a position of great power
and all the world worshipping him. His
concept, is clearly that there were many
antichrists aready in the world, and that
whoever does not confess that Jesus
Christ came in the flesh is antichrist.

The term "antichrist" comes from two
Greek words, anti ("instead of, in place of,
in the room of") and Christos ("Christ, the
anointed"). Thus, the term "antichrist" literally
refers to someone who stands in the
place of Christ, either as a Vice-Christ or
as a usurper of Christ's rightful position.
John obviously-treats the antichrists
as people who stand in the place of Christ
as usurpers. They deny that Jesus is the
Christ, because they, themselves, have
become Christ. They, also, deny that Jesus
Christ really came in the flesh, and here
one must know a little history to understand
the accusation which John levels at
these people.
In John's day a sect had arisen called
Gnosticism. The Gnostics (from gnosis,
"knowledge") attempted to combine the
"knowledge" of all the mystery religions of
Babylon, Egypt, and Greece with
Christianity. This religion adopted the
dualism of the Greeks (i.e., matter is evil,
and spirit is good).
In applying Greek dualism to
Christianity, they came up with a doctrine
called Docetism. This doctrine stated that
the "Christ image" (spiritual, immortal,
and good) inhabited a fleshly body (material,
mortal, and evil) called "Jesus." In
making the distinction between Jesus and
the Christ image, they denied that Jesus
was the Christ, teaching instead that
"Christ" merely-inhabited the body of
Jesus.
The result was that they denied that
Christ died for our sins. Rather, only
Jesus BODY died on the Cross. Christ
Himself did not really die, they said (contrary
to Romans 8:34). Thus, these
docetic Gnostics undermined the Cross
and the basis of justification.

John had these heretics in mind when
he wrote in John 1:14, "And the Word
was made flesh." The Word did not merely
inhabit a flesh body; it was literally
made flesh.
The "antichrist" banner was carried by
different people and groups all through
the middle ages. Today, we have witnessed
a revival of the doctrines of Mystery
Babylon in various guises. In modern
occult circles it is taught that man can
become Christ through various means.
One such religious group are the Jews,
whose Zionist rabbis are teaching that the
Jewish State is their Messiah (Christ).
This is not surprising, since the Jews have
solid control of the occult as a whole.
Thus, Judaism has taken on the
antichrist banner, for they not only deny
that Jesus is the Christ, but they claim to
stand in the place of Christ. They are
usurpers.
One should keep in mind, also, that
the modern concept of "the Antichrist" is
reached by assuming that the "beasts" of
the book of Revelation are the same as
"the Antichrist." While there may be some
connection, these terms are different and
should not be treated as synonomous.



EDIT:

The London Jewish World of March 15, 1923 declared: "Fundamentally, Judaism is anti-Christian."

from the Talmud, Kethuboth 111a) In other words, to call the Jewish people the Messiah is no metaphor; they are literally just that; they are the "Messiah," says the Talmud.
That is fine as far as it goes. Certainly all those do represent certain aspects of the spirit of Antichrist, but the Antichrist of propohecy, the one upon which the whole world apart from the remnant people of God, will submit their worship and trust to. the Antichrist whose mark will be enforced, is the one that must meet all the criteria that the prophecies apply to it. That starts from Daniel with the little horn, works throguh the various references made to it through the gospels and the epistles, and of course Revelation. The Antichrist we all must beware of and be aware of is the one that fulfills every single aspect or characteristic which the peophecies apply to it.
That was my purpose in the thread "Were they right". That thread was a Biblical and historical study of every reference to the antichrist throughout scripture to understand the context of each, to compare them with other scriptures dealing with the same subject....the reformers did the same thing....and they came up with just one answer. And I agree with them. The RCC. Only the RCC answers every particular, only the RCC fulfills every aspect of all the prophecies that pertain to the Antichrist of scripture.
Like John said, there were many antichrists, but when we look back throughout Biblical and Christian history, there is only one Antichrist.

Speaking of that thread, time I continued with it methinks.
 
That is fine as far as it goes. Certainly all those do represent certain aspects of the spirit of Antichrist, but the Antichrist of propohecy, the one upon which the whole world apart from the remnant people of God, will submit their worship and trust to. the Antichrist whose mark will be enforced, is the one that must meet all the criteria that the prophecies apply to it. That starts from Daniel with the little horn, works throguh the various references made to it through the gospels and the epistles, and of course Revelation. The Antichrist we all must beware of and be aware of is the one that fulfills every single aspect or characteristic which the peophecies apply to it.
That was my purpose in the thread "Were they right". That thread was a Biblical and historical study of every reference to the antichrist throughout scripture to understand the context of each, to compare them with other scriptures dealing with the same subject....the reformers did the same thing....and they came up with just one answer. And I agree with them. The RCC. Only the RCC answers every particular, only the RCC fulfills every aspect of all the prophecies that pertain to the Antichrist of scripture.
Like John said, there were many antichrists, but when we look back throughout Biblical and Christian history, there is only one Antichrist.

Speaking of that thread, time I continued with it methinks.

1 John 2:18:Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

So,do you think some antichrist will come in the future even though there are many antichrists on earth now?
 
Still any religion other than true christianity is anti-christ. That said I think this son of perdition is one single entity that will be clearly revealed and distinguishable from the other candidates..... like the beast would be when every single person begins to worship him and take its mark.


i totally understand the other views and their potential correctness. but there seems to be many candidates really.

so i dont really know, there should be something that seperates this son of perdition from all other false believing groups, which world has many even under name of "christianity"

Still any religion other than true christianity is anti-christ.


How so?

The Muslims have their beliefs,Just like the wiccans or Odinists have their beliefs,Just like Hindus have their beliefs and Buddists have their beliefs etc etc

How is it antichrist if they do not believe in the God of the Bible or the messiah Jesus?

as for Judaism as far as I know,they believe in the God of the Bible but reject the messiah Jesus.
There is no getting around that,if anyone has browsed through the Talmud to see what modern Jews believe about Jesus,then we could talk about an anti-Christ religion.

...as that is said....

What defines true Christianity?

These mainstream groups seem to preach only what people want to hear...do they really have an understanding of the Bible or have they fallen away?
Do they prefer the favor or popularity of men?
What say you?

These people are NOT HATED!

These mainstream Christians HATE Christians who preach different doctrines.

True Christianity,in my opinion means you might have to be ''hated''
mainstream denominations are not hated,they hate other Christians who preach otherwise...

Matthew 10:22:And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.

Mark 13:13:
And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

Luke 21:17
:And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake.

John 15:18:If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.

John 17:14:I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.
 
Rapture soon

Israel gathered means the day of the Lord is very,very near and the catching up of the church is even nearer!

14 The great day of the Lord is near, it is near, and hasteth greatly, even the voice of the day of the Lord: the mighty man shall cry there bitterly.
15 That day is a day of wrath, a day of trouble and distress, a day of wasteness and desolation, a day of darkness and gloominess, a day of clouds and thick darkness,
16 A day of the trumpet and alarm against the fenced cities, and against the high towers.
17 And I will bring distress upon men, that they shall walk like blind men, because they have sinned against the Lord: and their blood shall be poured out as dust, and their flesh as the dung.
18 Neither their silver nor their gold shall be able to deliver them in the day of the Lord’s wrath; but the whole land shall be devoured by the fire of his jealousy: for he shall make even a speedy riddance of all them that dwell in the land.
2 Gather yourselves together, yea, gather together, O nation not desired;
2 Before the decree bring forth, before the day pass as the chaff, before the fierce anger of the Lord come upon you, before the day of the Lord’s anger come upon you.
3 Seek ye the Lord, all ye meek of the earth, which have wrought his judgment; seek righteousness, seek meekness: it may be ye shall be hid in the day of the Lord’s anger.
—Zephaniah 1:14–2:3 KJV
 
Revelation 22:15:For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

...But Esau/Edom is one of the only that is ''destined'' for destruction.(Obadiah 1:18)
...Can you spot them?(today)

Atheists deny the existence of God,they are not antichrist,as they do not believe in God.

Only Christians believe in Jesus,but who does not?
Which ''people'' collectively reject Jesus and Christianity?
I think you know the answer but are hesitant to post......


The mark of the beast ( a little info)

"The mark of the beast" is the topic of
discussion in many circles today.
Unfortunately, it is usually misunderstood
by both layman and clergy.
Some think that Revelation 13:15-18
is a description of a MAN. who will
become a world dictator. Others prefer an
up-dated version of that theory; which
suggests that “the beast” will be a computer
system, with one main center (or
brain), which will compile information on
Christians in order to control them. These
are still traditional type predictions, cast
from the same mold as those which have
proven to be insufficient thus far.
The fact is that many dictators have
arisen, many empires have held sway over
the world; and for some time now we have
been experiencing the invasion of our privacy
and alienation from our lawful
rights, because of those who misuse computer
technology which has been extant
for years.
It makes one wonder what the
"preachers" are expecting. They are still
looking for a future “beast” while ignoring
the historical creature, who is now tightening
its strangle-hold on the throat of

Christendom. The creature described in
these verses cannot be fulfilled by any one
particular person; neither can its influence
upon people be explained or fulfilled
by a simple mark, or tatoo on one's skin.
Many have tried to over-simplify this
scripture by telling us that what we
should fear is a visible brand on our skin.
Meanwhile, the real beast has been busy
brainwashing, and manipulating our people
while, the preachers look for a tatoo.
Verse 18 tells us that the number of his
name, "666', can be understood only by
someone with "wisdom." It is spiritually
discerned; not physically. After all, it doesn't
take any wisdom to detect a literal
brand, or tatoo on someone. Anyone with
one good eye could detect it, with or without
wisdom.
Perhaps, those who prefer the popular
view of a physical mark would also have
the true followers of Christ marked by a
brand in the forehead spelling the
Father's name, according to Revelation
14:1.
Speculation on this "mark" is rampant
today. Every bookstand has one, two, or
more books, warning Christians against a
physical mark, and giving various
descriptions of how it will appear. The reason
for such broad, spectacular speculation
seems to involve two elements:
1) Many self-appointed prophets have
predicted certain things concerning this

prophecy. They and their supporters are
frantically turning over every rock in
quest of something that will fit; and, thus,
fulfill THEIR rendition of that prophecy.
They desperately need to find it in just the
way that they predicted. Otherwise they
risk losing credibility, and resulting damage
to their livelihood (flock-fleecing). All
is at stake for them!
2) Since the majority of the people in
Christendom have been innoculated with
this unfortunate doctrine, and subsequently-
learned to FEAR some physical
mark, our enemies are now using that
fear to their own advantage. The internationalists
are actually using variations of
the number "666" in order to spite and
intimidate Christians.. They know what
scares most Christians, so they use it for
that purpose. The fact is that we
Christians have been fooled because of the
lack of accurate Biblical teaching.
This BEAST power has been extant for
many years, already. God is calling us to
"come out of her!" God's plagues are
falling upon Babylon, and we see her suffering
greatly in both areas of power:
economy and religion. We have known for
some time that regardless of any mark
upon your physical body, one cannot live
in our society today and be exempt from
the influence of this beast power.
Therefore, THE "BEAST" HAS
POWER OVER PEOPLE THROUGH
DECEPTION AND MIND CONTROL,
RATHER THAN BY BRANDING US AS
CATTLE. The reference to the mark being
"in the right hand, or in the forehead," as
the Bible relates, simply means WHAT
WE DO (right hand), and WHAT WE
BELIEVE (forehead). If we have been
deceived by "the beast," it will be evidenced
by our beliefs, and our actions.
Thus are we marked!
This "beast" is made up of COMPONENTS

COMPONENTS
which are listed in Revelation
13:1-3, and 17:7-14. IT IS A COMPLEX
CREATURE! It is not one man; it is not
one man's government; it is not one
church! According to the scripture it is
"mountains" (nations), "kings," "kingdoms,"
etc. And it is controled (ridden) by
a woman (Babylon). This picture presents
a composite "beast," made up of many
anti-Christ governments, rulers, kings,
and kingdoms; which we can trace down
through history, as they have had their
turn at world power under the guidance of
that ancient Queen of Paganism....
.Babylon.
The portrayed contrast is MAN'S
GOVERNMENT against GOD'S GOVERNMENT.
Man's government follows
Babylonian rules, as shown by the vision
of kingdoms controled by the harlot. God's
government: which follows God's rules, is
depicted in chapter 19:1-10. These two
systems are opposed to each other; man' s
way . . . and God's way.
These world systems, or developements
of state (called a "beast" in the
Bible) have always been comprised of
many people; some of which have "the
mark," while some don't. Those having
"the mark" are the ones who support (worship)
the ungodly systems. They are
either wicked, and/or decieved people who
worship SELF instead of JESUS, and
thus, are led to support the, beast system.
Today, we see this, in part, as the impetus
behind the religion of HUMANISM, which
is, strangely enough, commensurate to
the state religion behind COMMUNISM.
The common denominator behind all
paganisms is THE WORSHIP OF SELF,
as explained in Romans 1:23-25. The
humber, "666" designates DEIFIED
SELF. Six is considered to be the number
of man (self); three is considered to be the
number of deity; THREE SIXES (666) IS

THE NUMBER OF DEIFIED SELF! That
describes Humanism as it has been
taught for centuries, under various titles:
in Egypt, in Babylon, in the Talmud (the
Jewish book of law), in Communism and
in various other Eastern mystic religion's,
most of which are now being propagated
in the western world, and America.
This same beast forced the "Woman"
(Israel) to flee across the Atlantic, from
Europe, some three centuries ago, as illustrated-
symbolically in Revelation 12.
Then as she gave birth to the new nation
of America (called “the man child” in verses
5 and 13), she found protection and
rest on these shores (called "the wilderness"),
away from the serpent (beast).
Thus, our forefathers found sanctuary
here in Nqrth America, away from the
beast's religious and financial oppression.

Israel was protected from this beast for
several years after coming to this new
country in the 1600's, but it (the beast)
was finally successful in getting a foothold
here, and is now attempting to put us
unto complete subjection.
This beast is NOT A MAN; it is a system,
or scheme devised by man. It is man
attempting to usurp the throne of God. It
is SELF trying to be God, manifested
through SELFISH, pagan ideology and
government. It is not one man, nor is it
one man's government! It is simply the
state of affairs, and type of society with
which we end up when we follow man
instead of Israel's God.

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1 John 2:18:Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

So,do you think some antichrist will come in the future even though there are many antichrists on earth now?
The RCC has been with us for 1500 years. The little horn developed immediately after the fall of pagan Rome, and Daniel said he would endure until the judgement.
If you read my thread "were they right" you would find a more comprehensive answer there.
 
Still any religion other than true christianity is anti-christ.

How so?

Anti means "Opposed to; against.". So any religion or denimination of christinaity that leads away from Truth is Anti-Christ. The truth being that Christ Jesus saves and is Lord.

What defines true Christianity?

People born of God's spirit are true Christians.
Those who have fate in Jesus as their Savior.


True Christianity,in my opinion means you might have to be ''hated''
mainstream denominations are not hated,they hate other Christians who preach otherwise...

Perhaps the time of hatred is yet to come. Remeber that Jesus said that you will be hated by all men when He was talking about the end times, and the tribulation time.

Christian persecuation today happens in some countries but in europe and america there isnt much of it. Atleast not the kind Jesus describded.

God bless you
 
Soon!

Copied from America's Last Warning by Eric E Stahl

The first and greatest sign that Jesus is returning soon is the return of the Jewish people to the land of Israel. Zephaniah 1:14–2:3 teaches that the day of the Lord is very, very, soon when Israel, the nation not desired, is gathered. Since Christians are taken to heaven before the day of the Lord, the rapture of the church–age believers is very, very, very soon!

Matthew 24:1–8 KJV
1 And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples
came to him for to shew him the buildings of the temple.
2 And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.
3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?

THE TRUTH �� 79

4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man
deceive you.
5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.
8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.

Mark 13:1-8
1 And as he went out of the temple, one of his disciples saith unto him,
Master, see what manner of stones and what buildings are here!
2 And Jesus answering said unto him, Seest thou these great build- ings? there shall not be left one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.
3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives over against the temple, Peter and James and John and Andrew asked him privately,
4 Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign when all these things shall be fulfilled?
5 And Jesus answering them began to say, Take heed lest any man deceive you:
6 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
7 And when ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars, be ye not troubled: for such things must needs be; but the end shall not be yet.
8 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be earthquakes in divers places, and there shall be famines and troubles: these are the beginnings of sorrows.

80 �� AMERICA’S LAST WARNING

Luke 21:7-11
7 And they asked him, saying, Master, but when shall these things be?
and what sign will there be when these things shall come to pass?
8 And he said, Take heed that ye be not deceived: for many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and the time draweth near: go ye not therefore after them.
9 But when ye shall hear of wars and commotions, be not terrified: for these things must first come to pass; but the end is not by and by.
10 Then said he unto them, Nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom:
11 And great earthquakes shall be in divers places, and famines, and pestilences; and fearful sights and great signs shall there be from heaven.

Jesus said that near the end of the latter days there will be increasing ethnic violence, or nation against nation. This is occurring now. Islam is attacking all the other religions. America and its other NATO partners are fighting Islamic terrorists over the entire world. There is war in Iraq and Afghanistan, and India and Pakistan are fighting. The Islamic Arabs are attacking the Africans in Sudan, and the Palestinians are attacking the Jewish people. Even the Shiite Muslims and the Sunni Muslims are fighting. The kingdom against kingdom warfare is usually waged over something such as land, oil, or political ideology. The frequency and severity of famines is increasing as the population of earth increases. Many people are living in a state of famine due to a lack of money. Many countries in the Middle East are in political turmoil because of rising food prices. It takes 50% to 60% of their income to buy food now! They can’t pay any more, so they will go hungry if food prices continue to rise. We are about to see famine on a larger scale than we have seen it in my life time. Plagues of fire ants, killer bees, termites, and locusts are types of pestilences increasing in severity as the time of Jesus’ return nears.
There were very few killer earthquakes when I was young. Now earthquakes are in the news regularly. Hundreds of thousands of people are dying because of earthquakes and tsunamis caused by intense earth- quakes. All kinds of new diseases plague the world now. Cancer, heart disease, and HIV/AIDS are good examples of the end-time pestilences.
Luke also tells us that there will be great signs and fearful sights from heaven.
 
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Hi Eric
Jesus said that near the end of the latter days there will be increasing ethnic violence, or nation against nation. This is occurring now. Islam is attacking all the other religions. America and its other NATO partners are fighting Islamic terrorists over the entire world. There is war in Iraq and Afghanistan, and India and Pakistan are fighting. The Islamic Arabs are attacking the Africans in Sudan, and the Palestinians are attacking the Jewish people. Even the Shiite Muslims and the Sunni Muslims are fighting. The kingdom against kingdom warfare is usually waged over something such as land, oil, or political ideology. The frequency and severity of famines is increasing as the population of earth increases. Many people are living in a state of famine due to a lack of money. Many countries in the Middle East are in political turmoil because of rising food prices. It takes 50% to 60% of their income to buy food now! They can’t pay any more, so they will go hungry if food prices continue to rise. We are about to see famine on a larger scale than we have seen it in my life time. Plagues of fire ants, killer bees, termites, and locusts are types of pestilences increasing in severity as the time of Jesus’ return nears.
There were very few killer earthquakes when I was young. Now earthquakes are in the news regularly. Hundreds of thousands of people are dying because of earthquakes and tsunamis caused by intense earth- quakes. All kinds of new diseases plague the world now. Cancer, heart disease, and HIV/AIDS are good examples of the end-time pestilences.
Luke also tells us that there will be great signs and fearful sights from heaven.

Wars, plagues, famine and earthquakes have been around so long. Jesus spoke about tribulation that has not been since earth began and never will be. But there's less war now on earth than was at 2nd world war. Or when world was less civilized. Could say we are rather moving towards peace actually.

1 Thessalonians 5:3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

4But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.


Yes food may become a big issue soon. I dont know if plagues and earthquakes have increased since 2000 years ago ,any at all. Modern medice just has prevented people from dying in many plagues that used to kill people.
So im not sure how to look at it.

God bless you
 
signs

Hi Eric


Wars, plagues, famine and earthquakes have been around so long. Jesus spoke about tribulation that has not been since earth began and never will be. But there's less war now on earth than was at 2nd world war. Or when world was less civilized. Could say we are rather moving towards peace actually.

1 Thessalonians 5:3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

4But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.


Yes food may become a big issue soon. I dont know if plagues and earthquakes have increased since 2000 years ago ,any at all. Modern medice just has prevented people from dying in many plagues that used to kill people.
So im not sure how to look at it.

God bless you

Hi Yari,

Yes we had all those problems before. The sign is that they will get harder and harder and harder and more often and more often and more often like birth pains as we near the end.

Danie12:4-10 also list knowledge increasing,transportation increasing and an understanding of the sealed up prophecy. There are other signs but I don't want to list them all myself.

God bless you too!
 
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