I've been seeking to get on the same page as you, but you continue to present information without proof. I specifically ask for your proof that will disprove or counter the scriptures I present - but you don’t. I would be foolish to dismiss what I've studied to take hold of and believe something I’ve not been given any proof of. When you've asked me for proof, I’ve provided it. I've been asking you for proof about Jesus dying for the penalty of sin, without taking away sins since I’ve started. I have asked you today to show proof that God is imputing sins unto believers; but again you won't. If I can show you, but you are not showing me, what does that say? How can I get on the same page with you if you will not prove your position through scripture? If I’m asking - that means I would like to know. I can’t know unless you show me, that's what the body of Christ is about. We nourish each other.
Nobody said Jesus doesn't take away the sins of the world. Tell me what that means. I think most if not all Christians don't understand what it means. I hope they do....When Jesus took away the sins of the world, we followed Him. When He died we died, and when He rose from the dead we also rose from the dead and no longer slaves to sin.
Romans 6 (CJB)
6 So then, are we to say, “Let’s keep on sinning, so that there can be more grace”? 2 Heaven forbid! How can we, who have died to sin, still live in it? 3 Don’t you know that those of us who have been immersed into the Messiah Yeshua have been immersed into his death? 4 Through immersion into his death we were buried with him; so that just as, through the glory of the Father, the Messiah was raised from the dead, likewise we too might live a new life. 5 For if we have been united with him in a death like his, we will also be united with him in a resurrection like his. 6 We know that our old self was put to death on the execution-stake with him, so that the entire body of our sinful propensities might be destroyed, and we might no longer be enslaved to sin.
But here you are telling us that it's impossible for us to sin. At least that's what it sounds like to me. Jesus did not take sin out of the world but the consequences of sin. The wages of sin is death, He became sin for us and was nailed to the cross for us. But sin still exists in the world and you can still choose to sin. That's why He tells us that we should not choose it.
Romans 6:12-14
“Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body, that you should obey it in its lusts The desires that we experience that go against God’s will. In other words, a desire for anything sinful. See James 1:14. Also called “sin in the flesh.” Although the expression “youthful lusts” is often thought of in connection with sinful sexual desires, lusts include anything that go against what is good and right in God’s eyes.
(2 Timothy 2:22.; Galatians... More. And do not present your members as instruments of unrighteousness to sin To commit sin is to consciously do something that you know goes against God’s will. This can be in word, deed, or even thought. (James 1:14-15)...
More, but present yourselves to God as being alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness to God. For sin shall not have dominion over you, for you are not under law but under grace.”
Romans 8:12-13
1 Corinthians 15:34
“Awake to righteousness, and do not sin.”
2 Corinthians 2:14
“Now thanks be to God who always leads us in triumph in Christ, and through us diffuses the fragrance of His knowledge in every place.”
Colossians 3:5
“Therefore put to death your members which are on the earth: fornication, uncleanness, passion, evil desire, and covetousness, which is idolatry.”
Hebrews 2:17-18
“Therefore, in all things He had to be made like His brethren, that He might be a merciful and faithful High Priest in things pertaining to God, to make propitiation for the sins of the people. For in that He Himself has suffered, being tempted, He is able to aid those who are tempted.”
Hebrews 4:15-16
“For we do not have a High Priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but was in all points tempted as we are, yet without sin. Let us therefore come boldly to the throne of grace“Let us therefore come boldly to the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy and find grace to help in time of need.” Hebrews 4:16. Because Jesus was tempted, yet did not sin, it is possible for us to come to Him with boldness to receive grace. This grace is so we too shall not commit sin in our... More, that we may obtain mercy and find grace to help in time of need.”
1 Peter 2:21-22
“For to this you were called, because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that you should follow His steps: ‘Who committed no sin, nor was deceit found in His mouth.’”
1 Peter 4:1-2
“Therefore, since Christ suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves also with the same mind, for he who has suffered in the flesh has ceased from sin, that he no longer should live the rest of his time in the flesh for the lusts of men, but for the will of God.”
2 Peter 1:10
“Therefore, brethren, be even more diligent to make your call and election sure, for if you do these things you will never stumble.”
1 John 3:3
“And everyone who has this hope in Him purifies himself, just as He is pure.”
1 John 3:6-7
“Whoever abides in Him does not sin. Whoever sins has neither seen Him nor known Him. Little children, let no one deceive you. He who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous.”
I like this one...whosoever abides in Him.....What do you do if you don't abide in Him but go along for the ride?
Revelation 3:21
“To him who overcomes I will grant to sit with Me on My throne, as I also overcame and sat down with My Father on His throne.”
He wants us to be overcomers, victorious over sin. If sin is not in the world then we have noting to overcome, we have nothing to be victorious over.
Of course sin still is in the world...and we can stick our fingers into it. But don't....