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Scattering the Power of the Holy People
Daniel 12: 5-7 says
"Then I Daniel looked, and, behold, there stood other two, the one on this side of the bank of the river, and the other on that side of the bank of the river.
6. And one said to the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, How long shall it be to the end of these wonders?
7. And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.
"Scattering the power of the holy people" means something other than literally dispersing them all over the world, though that too could be a meaning. Scattering the power here takes on the meaning of diminishing their power. This would be, first of all, their spiritual power, but also their earthly power, that is, their power to influence the political, cultural, educational, and other aspects of the world.
The holy people is used also in Daniel 8: 24, "And his power shall be mighty,
but not by his own power: and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall
prosper, and practice, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy
people."
"He" is not Alexander. In the ancient time line
"He" is fulfilled first by Antiochus IV Epiphanes, and the Holy People are
physical Israel. However, in the end times, a king who understands
dark sentences is said to "destroy the mighty and holy people," who are Christians.
Who the holy people are depends upon which time line is involved. If the time line indicated as present or future as in prophecy is in the Old Covenant the holy people would be physical Israel, though only a remnant were faithful. If the timeline is in the New Covenant, its the Christians. In Daniel 12: 7
the very end time is indicated clearly by "...when he shall have accomplished to scatter
the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished."
Though Antiochus Epiphanes was the original model who appears to fulfill Daniel 8:44 in the ancient timeline, in the last days
when the transgressors are come to the full, the king (or kings, world
leaders) of fierce countenance and who understand dark sentences shall stand up (Daniel 8: 23) is
more important in end time prophecy.
The holy people are also in Isaiah 62: 12, "Go through, go through
the gates; prepare ye the way of the people; cast up, cast up the
highway; gather out the stones; lift up a standard for the people.
Behold the Lord hath proclaimed unto the end of the world, say ye to
the daughter of Zion, Behold thy salvation cometh; behold his reward
is with him, and his word before him. And they shall call them, The
holy people, The redeemed of the Lord: and they shall be called,
Sought out, A cry not forsaken."
Jesus Christ is here in Isaiah 62: 10-12. The holy people are his people,
those born again in him (John 3: 1-8), of any race or ethnic origin (Galatians 3: 28-29) the spiritual house of I Peter 2: 5, and the chosen generation of I Peter 2: 9.
Daniel 12: 5-7 says
"Then I Daniel looked, and, behold, there stood other two, the one on this side of the bank of the river, and the other on that side of the bank of the river.
6. And one said to the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, How long shall it be to the end of these wonders?
7. And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.
"Scattering the power of the holy people" means something other than literally dispersing them all over the world, though that too could be a meaning. Scattering the power here takes on the meaning of diminishing their power. This would be, first of all, their spiritual power, but also their earthly power, that is, their power to influence the political, cultural, educational, and other aspects of the world.
The holy people is used also in Daniel 8: 24, "And his power shall be mighty,
but not by his own power: and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall
prosper, and practice, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy
people."
"He" is not Alexander. In the ancient time line
"He" is fulfilled first by Antiochus IV Epiphanes, and the Holy People are
physical Israel. However, in the end times, a king who understands
dark sentences is said to "destroy the mighty and holy people," who are Christians.
Who the holy people are depends upon which time line is involved. If the time line indicated as present or future as in prophecy is in the Old Covenant the holy people would be physical Israel, though only a remnant were faithful. If the timeline is in the New Covenant, its the Christians. In Daniel 12: 7
the very end time is indicated clearly by "...when he shall have accomplished to scatter
the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished."
Though Antiochus Epiphanes was the original model who appears to fulfill Daniel 8:44 in the ancient timeline, in the last days
when the transgressors are come to the full, the king (or kings, world
leaders) of fierce countenance and who understand dark sentences shall stand up (Daniel 8: 23) is
more important in end time prophecy.
The holy people are also in Isaiah 62: 12, "Go through, go through
the gates; prepare ye the way of the people; cast up, cast up the
highway; gather out the stones; lift up a standard for the people.
Behold the Lord hath proclaimed unto the end of the world, say ye to
the daughter of Zion, Behold thy salvation cometh; behold his reward
is with him, and his word before him. And they shall call them, The
holy people, The redeemed of the Lord: and they shall be called,
Sought out, A cry not forsaken."
Jesus Christ is here in Isaiah 62: 10-12. The holy people are his people,
those born again in him (John 3: 1-8), of any race or ethnic origin (Galatians 3: 28-29) the spiritual house of I Peter 2: 5, and the chosen generation of I Peter 2: 9.
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