Romans 5:10: Actual Atonement

[KingJ]

Ive given you plenty of scripture.

So as to not derail your thread, I have responded here:

Thread 'The Unteachable Christian: When Defending Your Position Matters More Than Truth'

Friday at 7:52 AM

One of the most troubling things I encounter among professing Christians is not simply that they hold beliefs I disagree with. It is that some appear completely unwilling to reconsider those beliefs, even when Scripture is presented that directly challenges their position.

A Christian who genuinely loves the truth must be willing to be corrected by it.

Consider what Scripture teaches about those who refuse to learn.

1. The wise person accepts correction, but the fool resists it.

Proverbs 12:1 says, “Whoso loveth instruction loveth knowledge: but he that hateth reproof is...

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[KingJ]

show me an honest calvanist you can compare bright frame with

Calvinism is clearly unscriptural. So there are none. My statement is both personal and general.

If for example he did not request that AI respond with bias, he would figure that out. Grok and Chat GPT completely and utterly debunk Calvinism and ''MOST IMPORTANTLY'' explain that it represents God as monstrously 10/10 evil.

By requesting that it respond from a “high Calvinist perspective” i.e. a biased one, you are forcing AI to help you dance around arguments and read things into Scripture that clearly are not there.

Calvinism is a business. A Christian franchise store.

Which would be fine and not the 'end of the world' if it did not so grossly misrepresent God to the lost.....

I am reminded of Matt 18:6 every time I engage with a Calvinist:

Matt 18:6 “But whoso shall stumble one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.”

Imagine telling young believers that God loves and died for that He does not love and did not die for them.....

 

[joestue]

Imagine telling young believers that God loves and died for that He does not love and did not die for them..

Thats not how calvanism works.

 

[joestue]

Calvinists make me ROTFLMAO because they fail before they start. If God was evil in anyway shape or form it would make him a demigod, someone who should not really be served, much like us....and if God is PURE EVIL, he should DEFINITELY not be served....but you, you are ok with it because it makes you feel.....SpEcIal. Oh man, Calvinists are so cringe and sad.

These are not the words of a christian.

While we all have our failings, you have shown yourself to be like a toddler screaming at its school teacher.

Answering the paradox of how can Jesus reconcile sinners to his Father before those sinners were even born, while also addressing the reality that 99% of them wont receive him:

Does not make God evil.