it really boils down to understanding the flesh is cursed the spirit used to be a slave to sin now the spirit has been set free by Jesus Christ. the flesh that we all live in is sinful by nature. Really that simple. Yeap you can over come the flesh but your still a sinner even when you overcome the flesh because if you were not a sinner you would not have to over come the flesh to begin with. Now by the spirit we have the power to over ride to fight back to win against our sinful nature. But imagine if you will that you did not have the sinful nature to begin with you would not need to fight it. You would not need to over come it. Yes you can win against the sinful nature but that does not change the fact you have a sinful nature the flesh
My understanding when the bible talks about being perfect is in the spirit, when the bible says sin no more, it means that we now have the power to sin no more, it does not mean that we do not have a sin nature, it means we now have the power to turn from it. This is my understanding and I might be wrong I am no Know it all that is for sure. I only seek the the truth.
the "old and new" the bible speaks about has to be the spirit as my flesh is the same.
if you do a quick search on the flesh you will see it is not changed no one changes the flesh we all live in.
Galatians 5:19-21
Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.
Romans 8:8
Those who are in the flesh cannot please God.
Galatians 5:16
But I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh.
Romans 8:6
For to set the mind on the flesh is death, but to set the mind on the Spirit is life and peace.
1 Corinthians 10:13
No temptation has overtaken you that is not common to man. God is faithful, and he will not let you be tempted beyond your ability, but with the temptation he will also provide the way of escape, that you may be able to endure it.
Romans 8:5
For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit set their minds on the things of the Spirit.
Romans 8:13
For if you live according to the flesh you will die, but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live.
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if you do a quick search on spirit you will see in the spirit is whear we please God whear the change takes place.
Galatians 5:16
But I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh.
John 6:63
It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh is no help at all. The words that I have spoken to you are spirit and life.
1 John 4:13
By this we know that we abide in him and he in us, because he has given us of his Spirit.
understanding our two natures is important part of growing as a Christian is my thought.
this is why Jesus had to be born of a virgin by the holly spirit so he did not receive the curse of the sin nature
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Proof of the sin nature abounds. No one has to teach a child to lie or be selfish; rather, we go to great lengths to teach children to tell the truth and put others first. Sinful behavior comes naturally.
The Bible explains the reason for the trouble. Humanity is sinful, not just in theory or in practice but by nature. Sin is part of the very fiber of our being. The Bible speaks of “sinful flesh” in
Romans 8:3. It’s our “earthly nature” that produces the list of sins in
Colossians 3:5. And
Romans 6:6 speaks of “the body ruled by sin.” The flesh-and-blood existence we lead on this earth is shaped by our sinful, corrupt nature.
The sin nature is universal in humanity. All of us have a sinful nature, and it affects every part of us. This is the doctrine of total depravity. All of us have gone astray (
Isaiah 53:6). Paul admits that “the trouble is with me, for I am all too human, a slave to sin” (
Romans 7:14). Paul was in his “sinful nature a slave to the law of sin” (
Romans 7:25). Solomon concurs: “Indeed, there is no one on earth who is righteous, / no one who does what is right and never sins” (
Ecclesiastes 7:20). The apostle John perhaps puts it most bluntly: “If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us” (
1 John 1:8).
What is the sin nature?