Rejecting scriptures validity - blasphemy?

[zeth4500]

Hey so ive encountered this a handful of times from believers who disregard a lot of scripture saying that it wasnt jesus who said this and that
As to say that only the things directly said by jesus christ is valid

 

[Jesua888]

IMHO we need to study the bible thoroughly, to see what exactly is said.
The Bible is a difficult book to read, interpret and understand.
However, in forums such as this, "bible study" is a good place to start.
There should not create opportunity for "debate" (or to push one's own opinions).
Focusing on the Truth that is backed biblically, is the way to go.
There are so many "false prophets" nowdays, and this seems to be ramping up.
Could this be because End Timbes are neigh?
Could it be because people are searching for meaning, and truth?
There are so many opinions, justifications of personal belief systems (or erroneous teachings) and searching for the right answers ...
Perhaps the Truth is right there in front of us, with no need to look outside ... is readily available in the Bible.

Yes, I know that "new age thinking" teaches to embrace all religions, all beliefs, and all actions, to tolerate differences (close the gap on division?) ...

Yes, we should be mindful of division, however the answers are right there in front of us, if we are serious about what path we want to be on?

Sola scriptura​

Christian theological doctrine that scriptures are the sole source of authority for faith and practice​

My intension for sharing my opinion, is not to look for any "debate" ... just putting out there something to think about?

I am also not expecting everyone to agree with my thinking : )

Merry Christmas Everyone

 

[zeth4500]

Could this be because End Timbes are neigh?

the signs are growing indeed, i have just today seen video footage of "project bluebeam" which we have anticipated will be used to bring forth the false messiah (the antichrist, uniting believers into a one world religion / government)

but yes indeed views are mostly useless- unless if we were to talk about interpretations of biblical texts, such as in revelations and isaiah where the end times become very........ well not strictly as the text says, such as the dragon of the end times with 7 heads and 10 horns, thats less than 1 horn per head, it would be very silly to take that literally - i digress.

i have also seen many "talkers", youtube faces suddenly going christian, they will surely be used to speak much truth but also misguide many

I am also not expecting everyone to agree with my thinking : )

haleluja, we are given free will and no one can condemn anyone to agree with them in everything, but harken- the man who hath ear hath understanding. the fool only hears himself talking, our duty is only to plant seeds, to offer truth, what people do with it is between them and god.

Yes, I know that "new age thinking" teaches to embrace all religions, all beliefs, and all actions, to tolerate differences (close the gap on division?) ...

this concept has been put out there by witches and demonically powered "magicians" and its their end goal and the keypoint in revelation indeed - it wont be uniting everyone tho, just everyone who agrees with them, christians wont be seen as tolerant.

we need to study the bible thoroughly, to see what exactly is said.

yes- sure, but not just read the bible but live it. if the bible tells us to stop sinning and we still sin, but we explain it away saying "it wasnt specifically jesus who said not to lay with a beast so.."

 

[Jesua888]

yes- sure, but not just read the bible but live it. if the bible tells us to stop sinning and we still sin, but we explain it away saying "it wasnt specifically jesus who said not to lay with a beast so.."

Exodus 22:19, which declares, "Whosoever lieth with a beast shall surely be put to death". These passages are part of the Mosaic Law, given by God through Moses, and not statements made by Jesus during his earthly ministry. While Jesus affirmed the Law and the Prophets, the specific command against bestiality originates in the Pentateuch, particularly in Leviticus.

 

[zeth4500]

Exodus 22:19, which declares, "Whosoever lieth with a beast shall surely be put to death". These passages are part of the Mosaic Law, given by God through Moses, and not statements made by Jesus during his earthly ministry. While Jesus affirmed the Law and the Prophets, the specific command against bestiality originates in the Pentateuch, particularly in Leviticus.

correct, so do you believe laying with a beast is a sin or not?

 

[Jesua888]

correct, so do you believe laying with a beast is a sin or not?

what do you think?

 

[zeth4500]

While Jesus affirmed the Law and the Prophets

ah my bad, but- i assume only the things he spoke out about would be countered of the mosaic law, as i remember sabbath and also avoiding certain foods

matthew 5.17
“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them."


The “Laws of Old” that Jesus abrogated are:

1. The Law of Killing
2. The Law of Adultery
3. The Law of Oaths and Swearing
4. The Law of Revenge
5. The Law of Hate
6. The Law of Divorce
7. The Law of Showing no Mercy

example..
“It hath been said, whosoever shall put away his wife, let him give her a writing of divorcement” Deuteronomy 24:1

“When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favour in his eyes, because he hath found some uncleanness in her: then let him write her a bill of divorcement, and give it in her hand, and send her out of his house.”

The Abrogated Law:

“But I (Jesus Christ) say unto you, that whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.” Matthew 5:31-32.



seems the men of mosaic law werent super patient, divorce must have been a daily thing.

 

[Jesua888]

example..
“It hath been said, whosoever shall put away his wife, let him give her a writing of divorcement” Deuteronomy 24:1

“When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favour in his eyes, because he hath found some uncleanness in her: then let him write her a bill of divorcement, and give it in her hand, and send her out of his house.”

The Abrogated Law:

“But I (Jesus Christ) say unto you, that whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.” Matthew 5:31-32.

seems the men of mosaic law werent super patient, divorce must have been a daily thing.

Zeth, do you understand this last biblical statement in Matthew 5:31-32?
this is a hard one to understand, and I will try to find a clearer interpretation of this, thanks Linda

 

[Jesua888]

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Zeth, do you understand this last biblical statement in Matthew 5:31-32?
this is a hard one to understand, and I will try to find a clearer interpretation of this, thanks Linda

I guess this sums it all up:

"Jesus teaches that divorce, except for sexual immorality (porneia), violates the sanctity of marriage and makes the divorced spouse guilty of adultery if they remarry. He emphasizes that marriage is a sacred covenant, not a contract, and that the original intention of marriage—being united as one flesh—should not be broken lightly. The exception of sexual immorality is the only legitimate ground for divorce, as it reflects a fundamental breach of the marital vow. Jesus also states that anyone who marries a divorced person, unless the divorce was for sexual immorality, commits adultery, highlighting that remarriage after an invalid divorce constitutes a continuing violation of the marriage covenant. This teaching corrects a legalistic interpretation of Moses’ law, which allowed divorce for various reasons, by restoring the higher moral standard of God’s original design for marriage."