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Reincarnation ?

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imho is true - it is in the Bible - it has happened and will happen to millions on the last day - any comments - wincam
 
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1 Corinthians 15:42-44 So is it with the resurrection of the dead. What is sown is perishable, what is raised is imperishable. It is sown in dishonour, it is raised in glory. It is sown in weakness, it is raised in power. It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body.​


It seems that here, reincarnation occurs for the spiritual body, rather then the 'flesh and bones' one.

"He will give a new form to this lowly body of ours and remake it according to the pattern of His glorified body..." (Phil 3:21).

Not typical of the generally accepted doctrine of reincarnation per se, but seemingly fairly closely related to it...

"Those who have done right shall rise to life; the evildoers shall rise to be damned" (Jn 5:29)

...In either case, resurrection occurs...

resurrection: "1. the act of rising again from the dead..."

Resurrection: "1. the rising again of Christ after his death and burial; 2. the rising again of people on the Day of Judgement."

reincarnation: "1. the belief that the soul, upon death of the body, moves to another body or form; 2. rebirth of the soul in a new body; 3. a new incarnation or embodiment, as of a person."
 
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1 Corinthians 15:42-44 So is it with the resurrection of the dead. What is sown is perishable, what is raised is imperishable. It is sown in dishonour, it is raised in glory. It is sown in weakness, it is raised in power. It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body.​


It seems that here, reincarnation occurs for the spiritual body, rather then the 'flesh and bones' one.

"He will give a new form to this lowly body of ours and remake it according to the pattern of His glorified body..." (Phil 3:21).

Not typical of the generally accepted doctrine of reincarnation per se, but seemingly fairly closely related to it...

"Those who have done right shall rise to life; the evildoers shall rise to be damned" (Jn 5:29)

...In either case, resurrection occurs...

resurrection: "1. the act of rising again from the dead..."

Resurrection: "1. the rising again of Christ after his death and burial; 2. the rising again of people on the Day of Judgement."

reincarnation: "1. the belief that the soul, upon death of the body, moves to another body or form; 2. rebirth of the soul in a new body; 3. a new incarnation or embodiment, as of a person."

Christ was resurrected and retained His original body whereas Lazarus was resurrected and reincarnated for his original body was rotten and stank - on the last day millions will be resurrected and reincarnated and not just rattling bones walking about - imho - wincam
 
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Reincarnation is a physical - fleshly body.
Resurrection is a spiritual body.
 
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imho is true - it is in the Bible - it has happened and will happen to millions on the last day - any comments - wincam
No reincarnation.
Hebrews 9:27 (CJB)
27 Just as human beings have to die once, but after this comes judgment,
 
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Reincarnation is a physical - fleshly body.
Resurrection is a spiritual body.
btaim this body is supposedly made in the image and likeness of God - wincam
No reincarnation.
Hebrews 9:27 (CJB)
27 Just as human beings have to die once, but after this comes judgment,
this is true but it does not mean no reincarnation - this is the final death as a Christian which is the end of the road and the only way experienced by all as yesterday's non Christian is today's Christian and today's non Christian is tomorrow's Christian imho - wincam
 
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1 Corinthians 15:42-44 So is it with the resurrection of the dead. What is sown is perishable, what is raised is imperishable. It is sown in dishonour, it is raised in glory. It is sown in weakness, it is raised in power. It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body.​


It seems that here, reincarnation occurs for the spiritual body, rather then the 'flesh and bones' one.

"He will give a new form to this lowly body of ours and remake it according to the pattern of His glorified body..." (Phil 3:21).

Not typical of the generally accepted doctrine of reincarnation per se, but seemingly fairly closely related to it...

"Those who have done right shall rise to life; the evildoers shall rise to be damned" (Jn 5:29)

...In either case, resurrection occurs...

resurrection: "1. the act of rising again from the dead..."

Resurrection: "1. the rising again of Christ after his death and burial; 2. the rising again of people on the Day of Judgement."

reincarnation: "1. the belief that the soul, upon death of the body, moves to another body or form; 2. rebirth of the soul in a new body; 3. a new incarnation or embodiment, as of a person."
For one to be reincarnated, one must die first. But you are imortal in that you will never die. Spirits do not die.
 
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btaim this body is supposedly made in the image and likeness of God - wincam





this is true but it does not mean no reincarnation - this is the final death as a Christian which is the end of the road and the only way experienced by all as yesterday's non Christian is today's Christian and today's non Christian is tomorrow's Christian imho - wincam
I'm sorry. I find your posts are somewhat vague..If you are saying that Christians die more than once(?) you are wrong. A Christian will pass through death once, physically, then go into eternal life with our Jesus...The final death is for the unbeliever, the second death that you mentioned.
Revelation 20:14 (CJB)
14 Then Death and Sh’ol were hurled into the lake of fire. This is the second death — the lake of fire.
 
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non Christians are reincarnated until they are reincarnated as Christians and then reincarnation ceases - Christianity is the only way and the end of the road for all mankind[Jn 11:26] imho - wincam -
 
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TE="Bendito, post: 310214, member: 30713"]For one to be reincarnated, one must die first. But you are imortal in that you will never die. Spirits do not die.
That is NOT in the bible...It is appointed to men ONCE to die and then the judgment. God does know what He's talking about and He means what He says...
 
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non Christians are reincarnated until they are reincarnated as Christians and then reincarnation ceases - Christianity is the only way and the end of the road for all mankind[Jn 11:26] imho - wincam -
yes of course no denying - but Christianity is the final death - all non Christians will bed reincarnated as Christians - there is no say in the matter same as we had no say in our creation - Jesus said non Christians must be born again as Christians He did not say Christians must be born again as Christians - wincam
 
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That is NOT in the bible...It is appointed to men ONCE to die and then the judgment. God does know what He's talking about and He means what He says...

yes of course no denying - but Christianity is the final death - all non Christians will bed reincarnated as Christians - there is no say in the matter same as we had no say in our creation - Jesus said non Christians must be born again as Christians He did not say Christians must be born again as Christians - wincam[/QUOTE]
I'm sorry. I think your reasoning is waaay off from the Word. What does the Word say? And don't bother translating it. Its already saying exactly what God means.
 
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yes of course no denying - but Christianity is the final death - all non Christians will bed reincarnated as Christians - there is no say in the matter same as we had no say in our creation - Jesus said non Christians must be born again as Christians He did not say Christians must be born again as Christians - wincam
exactly what God says the reincarnated do not die until they become Christians namely reincarnated as Christians or baptised as believers before death - wincam
 
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I'm sorry. I think your reasoning is waaay off from the Word. What does the Word say? And don't bother translating it. Its already saying exactly what God means.
You still have not shown where the Book says that.
 
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imho is true - it is in the Bible - it has happened and will happen to millions on the last day - any comments - wincam
Reincarnation is not biblical. Stop posting stuff that is not true.

Read carefully...

Is there reincarnation in the Bible?

Those that believe in the doctrine of reincarnation will try and tell you that there is indeed reincarnation in the Bible. However, their use of biblical Scripture is not backed up by other verses. The proof of any doctrine always lies in the Bible, i.e. the Bible itself will always verify the truth of any doctrine by providing supporting verses.

For example, proponents of reincarnation use the example of Elijah as proof of reincarnation in the Bible. They claim the verses that refer to him in the New Testament prove that he was reincarnated. Jesus frequently referred to Elijah as coming before Him, and there were those that thought that John the Baptist was Elijah (Mark 6:14-15). In addition, Matthew 17:3 says, "Just then there appeared before them Moses and Elijah, talking with Jesus."

There are two problems with this view. First, according to the tenants of reincarnation, Elijah should have had a different form or body when he appeared to the apostles. Secondly, Elijah never died, and therefore could not be reincarnated since reincarnation is the transmitigation of the soul from one form to another after the death of the previously inhabited form. In 2 Kings 2:11it says, "As they were walking along and talking together, suddenly a chariot of fire and horses of fire appeared and separated the two of them, and Elijah went up to heaven in a whirlwind."

Those that believe in reincarnation also like to use the verse found in John 3:3 to prove that there is reincarnation in the Bible. The verse states, "In reply Jesus declared, 'I tell you the truth, no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again.'" This is perhaps the most frequently quoted verse that is used to support reincarnation in the Bible. However, the verse is taken out of context, and just two verses later, Jesus explains what He means by "born again." It says, "Jesus answered, 'I tell you the truth, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit'" (John 3:5). Here one sees that Jesus was clearly talking about a spiritual rebirth, not a physical one.

Finally, the most telling verse against reincarnation in the Bible is found in Hebrews 9:27 where it states, "Just as man is destined to die once, and after that to face judgment." This makes it clear that humanity only dies once and is then judged on the life he has lived. One is not born again in an endless cycle of death and rebirth, and its attendant opportunity to improve one's karma (karma being an associated doctrine of reincarnation that means if one leads a good life one will be reincarnated into a better situation in the next life).

This verse is backed up by the verse in Romans 6:23 where it states, "For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord." Here we see an equivalent verse to Hebrews 9:27 stating that death awaits all of us because all of us are sinners, and that Jesus' sacrificial death on the cross has freed us from this death and has brought eternal life in heaven to all who believe.

Reincarnation in the Bible
 
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For all in this thread, please stop posting cutoff or duplicate quotes in your posts. I had to clean all the posts like that. Use the preview button first.
 
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Reincarnation is not biblical. Stop posting stuff that is not true.

Read carefully...

Is there reincarnation in the Bible?

Those that believe in the doctrine of reincarnation will try and tell you that there is indeed reincarnation in the Bible. However, their use of biblical Scripture is not backed up by other verses. The proof of any doctrine always lies in the Bible, i.e. the Bible itself will always verify the truth of any doctrine by providing supporting verses.

For example, proponents of reincarnation use the example of Elijah as proof of reincarnation in the Bible. They claim the verses that refer to him in the New Testament prove that he was reincarnated. Jesus frequently referred to Elijah as coming before Him, and there were those that thought that John the Baptist was Elijah (Mark 6:14-15). In addition, Matthew 17:3 says, "Just then there appeared before them Moses and Elijah, talking with Jesus."

There are two problems with this view. First, according to the tenants of reincarnation, Elijah should have had a different form or body when he appeared to the apostles. Secondly, Elijah never died, and therefore could not be reincarnated since reincarnation is the transmitigation of the soul from one form to another after the death of the previously inhabited form. In 2 Kings 2:11it says, "As they were walking along and talking together, suddenly a chariot of fire and horses of fire appeared and separated the two of them, and Elijah went up to heaven in a whirlwind."

Those that believe in reincarnation also like to use the verse found in John 3:3 to prove that there is reincarnation in the Bible. The verse states, "In reply Jesus declared, 'I tell you the truth, no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again.'" This is perhaps the most frequently quoted verse that is used to support reincarnation in the Bible. However, the verse is taken out of context, and just two verses later, Jesus explains what He means by "born again." It says, "Jesus answered, 'I tell you the truth, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit'" (John 3:5). Here one sees that Jesus was clearly talking about a spiritual rebirth, not a physical one.

Finally, the most telling verse against reincarnation in the Bible is found in Hebrews 9:27 where it states, "Just as man is destined to die once, and after that to face judgment." This makes it clear that humanity only dies once and is then judged on the life he has lived. One is not born again in an endless cycle of death and rebirth, and its attendant opportunity to improve one's karma (karma being an associated doctrine of reincarnation that means if one leads a good life one will be reincarnated into a better situation in the next life).
This verse is backed up by the verse in Romans 6:23 where it states, "For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord." Here we see an equivalent verse to Hebrews 9:27 stating that death awaits all of us because all of us are sinners, and that Jesus' sacrificial death on the cross has freed us from this death and has brought eternal life in heaven to all who believe.

Reincarnation in the Bible


there is a total misunderstanding here perpetuated by those who have themselves misunderstood for reincarnation is clearly in the bible in more places than one and was in Christianity and believed by Christians for at least the first five hundred years of Christianity and then again because of another foolish misunderstanding was anathema but must be reconsidered and reinstated - there is no opposition whatever to Heb 9:27 or Rmns 6.23 and Jn 3:3 and 3:5 is a prime example of misinterpreting and misapplying - Jesus did not say Christians must be born again as Christians for what He did say to a non Christian was that he and other non Christians must be born again as a Christian either in this life or the next - it follows that yesterday's non Christians are today's Christians and that today's non Christians are tomorrow's Christians - btw it would be foolish to anathema something that was not believed and why is the anathema which is not in the bible accepted over reincarnation which is - btw obviously millions will be resurrected and reincarnated on the last day imho - wincam
 
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Garbage doctrine that makes no sense. Account closed for perpetuating lies about Gods word.
 
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