Sorry, Idk where to post this question, its more of me just wondering about something. Background, i have so many blessings from the Lord in my life right now, halfway through college for a degree in social work, getting married this june, and good health. I have relied heavily on God in the past and currently, i know he is there, but i have negative feelings towards him as well, its strange i love him dearly, but i have a hard time with him. I lost my father to suicide last year and could never understand how God could let it happen to a person who has had such a hard life, and it makes me so angry to think that my dad saw Gods face and watched as he pushed him into hell. (i shared the Lord with him before he passed, idk for sure if he was saved). I feel like God made us as imperfect beings, gave us a sinful nature, then knowing that some of us would fail created us and sends some of us to hell. I also work with children who come from troubled backgrounds, and it frustrates me to no end thinking that some of them will end up in hell...I just feel like God enjoys Heaven sometimes and tunes us out. I get so frustrated i cant see him face to face, and feel like i have to go through a circus of prayer and seeking to hear a peep from him. Contrary to what it sounds like, i am a very happy person, love God and want to be a man of God, but honestly i get so tired of feeling like im always on the loosing side fighting a hopeless battle, encouraging others to find God when i myself want to throw something at him sometimes because i dont understand! aha jk anyhow thanks for letting me vent. Just a few musings on my mind.
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First of all I want to offer my sincere condolences for your pain of not only losing your father, but by the heartbreaking way of suicide. I also want to welcome you to TJ and I hope you can find some peace and answers here.
I probably don't have any answers for you, but I know that not a few Christians at least once in their life have gone through their version of the "dark night of the soul", which you are no doubt having yours at present; I know I definitely have gone through it as well.
For what it's worth to you, you are in my prayers and I am trusting in the astounding mercy, grace and love of God to pull you through this. God bless you brother!
I probably don't have any answers for you, but I know that not a few Christians at least once in their life have gone through their version of the "dark night of the soul", which you are no doubt having yours at present; I know I definitely have gone through it as well.
For what it's worth to you, you are in my prayers and I am trusting in the astounding mercy, grace and love of God to pull you through this. God bless you brother!
Hello kevin256.
Mankind became darkened due to failure to obey God.
God does not create people in order to send them to hell.
God grants people life, and immortality in Christ.
Your not on the losing side if you trust in Jesus.
Our victory has already occurred through Jesus Christ.
Vent away kevin, remember Jesus loves you dearly, so
deeply in fact that he became one of us and died for you.
Mankind became darkened due to failure to obey God.
God does not create people in order to send them to hell.
God grants people life, and immortality in Christ.
Your not on the losing side if you trust in Jesus.
Our victory has already occurred through Jesus Christ.
Vent away kevin, remember Jesus loves you dearly, so
deeply in fact that he became one of us and died for you.
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Hi, Im sorry about your father, I am a little confuse as I read your post, and I think the reason is... you are confuse yourself. :wink:
Thank you for sharing this though.
Well, I want to say few things about it.
Our trust changes, our loyalty changes... He doesnt. It is important that we press on with our faith.
Trust in the Lord, and do good;
dwell in the land and befriend faithfulness.
Delight yourself in the Lord,
and he will give you the desires of your heart.
Commit your way to the Lord;
trust in him, and he will act.
He will bring forth your righteousness as the light,
and your justice as the noonday.
Psalm 37:3-6
Suicide is your dad's choice, I dont think you should blame God for that... or for any other reason. Also, you shared the Gospel to your father, you have done your part.
I just really feel sad reading this, He so wants everyone to repent and be saved...
The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you,
not wishing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance.
2 Peter 3:9
I dont think anyone could judge where they will end up but you being there, is the chance for them to know about Christ. You are the tool, share the Gospel to them, and the fact that they could have forgiveness & peace through our Lord. Be the salt & light in that place.
I do believe you are a happy person & loves God dearly, this is just the work of the enemy trying to confuse you.
There are a lot of things we wont understand... I think if everything was stated so clearly no Bible scholars will ever argue, there will be no denominations or divisions of churches.
O LORD, what great works you do! And how deep are your thoughts.
Psalm 92:5
"For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways," declares the LORD.
Isaiah 55:8
There is great peace when we have complete faith in Him... even though we dont understand, even though we cant see why or how... have that & be that. :wink:
Thank you for sharing this though.
Well, I want to say few things about it.
Our trust changes, our loyalty changes... He doesnt. It is important that we press on with our faith.
Trust in the Lord, and do good;
dwell in the land and befriend faithfulness.
Delight yourself in the Lord,
and he will give you the desires of your heart.
Commit your way to the Lord;
trust in him, and he will act.
He will bring forth your righteousness as the light,
and your justice as the noonday.
Psalm 37:3-6
Suicide is your dad's choice, I dont think you should blame God for that... or for any other reason. Also, you shared the Gospel to your father, you have done your part.
I just really feel sad reading this, He so wants everyone to repent and be saved...
The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you,
not wishing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance.
2 Peter 3:9
I dont think anyone could judge where they will end up but you being there, is the chance for them to know about Christ. You are the tool, share the Gospel to them, and the fact that they could have forgiveness & peace through our Lord. Be the salt & light in that place.
I do believe you are a happy person & loves God dearly, this is just the work of the enemy trying to confuse you.
There are a lot of things we wont understand... I think if everything was stated so clearly no Bible scholars will ever argue, there will be no denominations or divisions of churches.
O LORD, what great works you do! And how deep are your thoughts.
Psalm 92:5
"For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways," declares the LORD.
Isaiah 55:8
There is great peace when we have complete faith in Him... even though we dont understand, even though we cant see why or how... have that & be that. :wink:
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Kevin,
If I may reflect back what you wrote.
Take a look at the highlighted phrases in your writing that I quoted above.
What do you see?
I see a man who truly wants to feel God's blessings and be free from those *feelings*.
Those *feelings* are the indications of a mind that has not yet seen the power and majesty of God. Guess how I know? because that's exactly how I felt also.
These feelings are the projection of *our* point of view, not God's. It is the product of our impure mind that we inherit from Adam when he chose, not God, to rebel.
These feelings are exactly the ones that Lord Jesus chose to give Himself up so we can be free of.
And lastly, there is not one thing that we can do to get rid of those feelings apart from this:
- Immerse yourself in the Scriptures. Take it seriously, and study it. Don't just read it, pour on it, understand what it actually says. Consider what others may teach, but strive to open yourself to what the Scripture will reveal *about* yourself. You may be surprised at how little you actually know about what the Scriptures is teaching, until you really get serious about it. I knew I was, and I had been a so-called Christian for decades up to that point.
- Seek the guidance of the Holy Spirit that is in you. Find Him. Learn to rely on His power, not your own. In every important decision in your life, start to consider God's point of view, not your own.
These two steps will cause you to grow in the Spirit. Which eventually will result in the freedom we so seek. The freedom from those *feelings*. The freedom to embrace God's grace and mercy. Because we finally find out how insignificant we are compared to Him who is to be Magnified above all.
And as with any growth, baby steps is the way to start. Be patient.
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I too am very very sorry about your father dying like that. I do have to ask you, why, if you say your father was a Christian, that GOD sent him to hell? Just because a Christian commits suicide it does NOT mean they go to hell. What a hellish belief. That is Satan attaking you with lies!!
When a Christian commits suicide it means he/she was in a place of deception and was lost in confusion. It does NOT mean they are not saved. Again. It only means they were in a place where all they could see was a single way out of the trap they are in. They might miss the victory but they still go to be with JESUS if they are a Christian.
So my friend snuggle up to JESUS and look forward to being reunited with your Dad in heaven
