Pray for the Holy Ghost(Spirit).

[windmill2kids]

Mat. 12:43-45
43 When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest, and findeth none.
44 Then he saith, I will return into my house from whence I came out; and when he is come, he findeth it empty, swept, and garnished.
45 Then goeth he, and taketh with himself seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter in and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first. Even so shall it be also unto this wicked generation.

Acts. 1:8,9
8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judae, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.
9 And when he had thus spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.

Ok, so the point is that after that you have received forgivness for all your sins, Jesus cleans all that nastiness out of your spirit: Matthew 12:43 "When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man,,,," So what do you feel your New Cleaned-up spirit with? The Holy Spirit, right? Isn't that what Jesus told the followers of God in verse 8 above? They were already saved, right? You can't truly be a witness if you're not filled with the Holy Ghost.
If there's nothing to fill your Newly Cleaned-up, empty, swept, and garnished spirit, then there's room in there for What? Mat. 12:45 Then goeth he, and taketh with himself seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter in and dwell there:..." That could be taking with you even more sin than you had before.
Good news is, if you honestly want the truth, he will Not let this happen to you. If you want and ask for his knowledge and truth after that you are saved, I do know that he will send you the Holy Ghost to fill you up so that Satan can not take over your body EVER AGAIN!
We need the Holy Ghost in us if we are to survive in the world today.
Food for thought. Simply put, straight forward, hopefully understandable.
Love you all and God Bless you!
Your Sister in Christ.

 

[Boanerges]

That unclean spirit is refering to a demonic spirit sis. We will be filled with something. The way I see it we have to choices; to serve the Lord God or by default to serve the god of this world.
If we are filled with the Holy Spirit of God then satan has no place in our spirit but our minds still have to be renewed according to the Word of God. In the case of a Christian the Holy Spirit imparts revelation into the Word in our spirit, our minds must then line up with this revealed truth and our body will follow our thoughts.

 

[Enow]

Good news is, if you honestly want the truth, he will Not let this happen to you. If you want and ask for his knowledge and truth after that you are saved, I do know that he will send you the Holy Ghost to fill you up so that Satan can not take over your body EVER AGAIN!
We need the Holy Ghost in us if we are to survive in the world today.

Romans 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

Seems to me that to be saved is not only about being bought with a price, but being filled with the Spirit as promised for coming to Jesus.

So not only do we need Jesus to be saved, but to live as His.

Galatians 2:20I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

2 Corinthians 5:17Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new. 18And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation;

Seems to me that preaching Jesus Christ and Him crucified covers everything as far as salavtion is concern.

This is the nondramatic version of being born again.

John 3:6That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 7Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. 8The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.

John 14:17Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

So when they say that the Holy Spirit comes and falls on them... do not go there. Remember the faith and the points of the scriptures above to dscern by:

The world receive other spirits by seeing it happen. They can tell when it comes and when it goes. We are called as believers to remember this below.

2 Corinthians 13: 5Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?

Hebrews 11: 1Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

Galatians 3:14That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

Hebrews 11: 6But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.

Galatians 3: 26For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

Believe the promise of Jesus of that rest for coming to Him.

Matthew 11:28Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. 29Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. 30For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.

Hebrews 4:1Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it. 2For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it. 3For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.....

So does one continue to seek a baptism of the Holy Spirit that comes with evidence of tongues or... "another baptism of the Holy Spirit that comes with evidence of tongues"? Or does one rest in Jesus that we are filled with the Spirit as promised so we can rest in Him that we are His?

Hebrews 4:9There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God. 10For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his. 11Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.

Matthew 9:17Neither do men put new wine into old bottles: else the bottles break, and the wine runneth out, and the bottles perish: but they put new wine into new bottles, and both are preserved.

Galatians 2: 20I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

Thus the just shall live by faith, and not by sight nor by signs and wonders. Jesus is our resting place. By Him we have received the promise of the Spirit so we can continue to rest in Jesus.<!-- / message -->

 

[Enow]

That unclean spirit is refering to a demonic spirit sis. We will be filled with something. The way I see it we have to choices; to serve the Lord God or by default to serve the god of this world.
If we are filled with the Holy Spirit of God then satan has no place in our spirit but our minds still have to be renewed according to the Word of God. In the case of a Christian the Holy Spirit imparts revelation into the Word in our spirit, our minds must then line up with this revealed truth and our body will follow our thoughts.

So if you are filled with the Spirit, then there can be no more filling of the Spirit unless .....

I agree with the renewing of our minds daily, but a continual filling that is being preached out there... would suggests leaving the door wide open for you know who.

The peace of God is that we are filled with the Spirit as you have posted and that is how the Spirit fulfills the role of the Comforter by being in us and dwelling in us forever as promised.

This is how ex-satanists, ex-voodooists, ex-witches, ex-mediums, ex-new age channelers, and any other ex-spiritualists can be identified as His by the faith in Jesus Christ.

So wayward believers should take that into account in discerning the practises of the day in the worship place as in can worship of the Spirit invoke other spirits? Does it explain why the scriptures declare the sure and safe way in approaching God the Father and that is through the Son? John 14:6 1 Timothy 2:5 John 5:22-23 John 10:1

 

[Boanerges]

Believers do not follow signs and wonders but signs and wonders should follow them.


It seems to me Enow that you have a denominal bone to pick, that is quite fine with me as I respect your opinion. It mirrors mine before I was baptized in the Holy Spirit.

For my friend windmill2kids- I believe that this information below represents a fair and balanced view on the subject but like everything from Genesis to Revelations opinions vary widely.

From CARM Ministries:
What is baptism in the Holy Spirit?

Baptism of the Holy Spirit<SUP>1</SUP> is a term used to describe a movement of the Spirit upon and/or within a believer usually sometime after the person is saved. There is controversy surrounding this phenomenon as to whether it is legitimate or not. Some people believe that once a person is saved the Holy Spirit is in the person and there is no subsequent "baptism in the Holy Spirit." In other words, they maintain that this Baptism of the Spirit occurs at salvation. Others believe that it is possible for the Christian to experience an additional movement of the Holy Spirit sometime after salvation. Generally speaking, it is the charismatic movement that supports the Baptism of the Holy Spirit.
We need to first know that all Christians receive the Spirit upon their conversion and in this sense all Christians have been baptized in the Holy Spirit. This means that they are saved and that they have all they need at that time to be able to live godly and holy lives. 1 Cor. 12:13 says, "For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body, whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free, and we were all made to drink of one Spirit."
However, there are many Christians who claim to have had this "secondary" experience of the Spirit.<SUP>2</SUP> They say that it has brought great blessing and comfort to them. Furthermore, they say that the results of the experience is a renewed dedication and appreciation for God, a stronger desire to read the Bible, a stronger desire to fellowship with Christians, and a deeper sense of worship of God. Millions of Christians who claim to have had this experience forces us to deal with the issue. Is it real or not? Let's look at the Scripture to find out.
The term "baptize with the Holy Spirit<SUP>1</SUP>" occurs several times in scripture:

• Matt. 3:11, “As for me, I baptize you with water for repentance, but He who is coming after me is mightier than I, and I am not fit to remove His sandals; He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire."
• Mark 1:8, "I baptized you with water; but He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit.”
• Luke 3:16, "John answered and said to them all, “As for me, I baptize you with water; but One is coming who is mightier than I, and I am not fit to untie the thong of His sandals; He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire."
• John 1:33, "And I did not recognize Him, but He who sent me to baptize in water said to me, ‘He upon whom you see the Spirit descending and remaining upon Him, this is the one who baptizes in the Holy Spirit.’"
• Acts 1:5, "for John baptized with water, but you shall be baptized with the Holy Spirit not many days from now.”
• Acts 11:16, "And I remembered the word of the Lord, how He used to say, ‘John baptized with water, but you shall be baptized with the Holy Spirit.’"

We can clearly see that the phrase is used in the Bible. But, we do not find a clear teaching in the Bible of what the phrase means. Nevertheless, we can conclude that when a person is baptized in the Holy Spirit he has power bestowed upon him. This power is for the purpose of the preaching of the gospel (Acts 4:31), living a purer life, and having a deeper devotion to God. Also, it is frequently accompanied by speaking in tongues. Acts 2:4, "And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit was giving them utterance." At this point, I would recommend the reader to examine Acts 1-2 to see the movement of the Holy Spirit upon the early church at Pentecost.
The issue now seems to be whether or not Baptism of/in/with the Holy Spirit is a subsequent event occurring after salvation. It would seem that this is the case. In John 20:22, Jesus commanded that the disciples receive the Holy Spirit, "And when He had said this, He breathed on them, and *said to them, “Receive the Holy Spirit." This means that they were saved since the Holy Spirit is not received by the unregenerate. Then, later in Acts 1:4-5 we read, "And gathering them together, He commanded them not to leave Jerusalem, but to wait for what the Father had promised, “Which,” He said, “you heard of from Me; <SUP>5</SUP> for John baptized with water, but you shall be baptized with the Holy Spirit not many days from now.”
Conclusion
The danger of this phenomena is the potential division of the body of Christ into two categories: those who are "regular" Christians and those who have been baptized in the Holy Spirit. This, of course, would be an incorrect way of looking at Christians, and this is why. If you were to step outside into a soft mist, it would take a long time to get completely wet. On the other hand, if you were to step into a torrential rain, you'd be drenched quickly.
Those who have not experienced the Baptism of the Holy Spirit (meaning a sudden and powerful experience) are not second class citizens by any means. They are the ones in the gentle mist who experience the Lord over a long period of time and get just as blessed as those who suddenly step into the torrent of the Spirit's presence. In fact, the Baptism of the Spirit can be a pitfall since so many people who have experienced it long for it again, almost to the point of putting the validity of their faith in the experience instead of the clear teaching of the word of God.
We must all be careful not to fall in our strengths as well as our weaknesses.
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1. Baptism of the Holy Spirit is also rendered as Baptism in the Holy Spirit and Baptism with the Holy Spirit
2. My own experience supports the idea that the baptism in the Holy Spirit can be a subsequent occurrence to salvation. Long after my becoming a Christian, I had an experience where the Holy Spirit moved upon me with great power. The result was an insatiable desire to read God's word, to hear praise music, and to speak of Christ. This had a profound and very long-lasting effect on my Christian life. Of course, experience is not what makes doctrinal truth. We find that in the word of God.
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