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Perfection

ushalk

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What is a true Christian? I see judgements on who is saved or who isnt all of the time. But have yet to see a true judgement from the Bible as to what a Christian is.

Do christians make mistakes? Do we have problems with faith at times? Do we sometimes fall and if we do does that mean that we are not Christians or we dont believe anymore?
 
A true Christian is a regenerated one. By being obedient to the Word ( The 3rd chapter of John and Romans 10: 5-15) we, the born-again, have gone from hearers to believers to followers to doers of the Word of GOD because His Holy Spirit lives within us. It is HE that has been given to us, by faith, and helps us to grow in grace as a new creation as beloved children of the Father of Lights. b) Yes, Christians are still prone to making mistakes because we are STILL in the flesh even though our spirit has been regenerated. Just like a baby makes mistakes, by trial and error, while navigatin through this world - it is the same for the Christian. We are learning to fight our own fleshly desires as we yield more to the unctionings of the Holy Spirit. It's a daily war ( Galatians 5:17 and James 4:1 and 1st Peter 2:11) between our flesh and spirit as to which will take control. We are "unlearning" old ways as we embrace our "new creation"selves as we learn to live in alignment to GOD'S WORD. c) As to problems with faith: yes and no. The problems only come when you doubt the things that Jesus said and did. As long as you REALLY believe that Jesus is who He said He is, and believe EVERYTHING THAT HE SAID AND DID, then losing your faith is not possible. Why? Because of the indwelling Teacher : the Holy Spirit. He guides those born-again into ALL truth (John 16:5-15) I've been IN CHRIST over 40 years, and I STILL am in awe at how HE opens up new truths in passages of Scripture that I have read many times before. d) Do we fall? And, if we do, does that mean that we no longer believe. Let me encourage you to read what the Scripture says about the "how and why"people "fall away" by examining the Parable of the Sower (Matthew 13:3 - 9 /18 thru 23 or Luke 8:5 thru 15). Those of us that had the Word - Seed take root are yielding the "fruits of the Holy Spirit" ( Galations 5: 22 - 25). As we allow the Holy Spirit to have His way and grow spiritual fruit in us...as we hear continue to hear the voice of our Great Shepherd ( John 10: 27-28) ....it becomes impossible for us to become nonbelievers. When you look at both Peter and Judas, disciples that were with Jesus Christ from the beginning of His earthly ministry, you can see the contrast of what it looks like to yield to fleshly temptations even though you knew the Lord...personally. And, their outcomes were so different, weren't they? If you have anymore such questions - I recommend the desirringgod.org website. Pastor John Piper's teachings on being regenerated are second to none. Blessings!
 
Whendancer,youre absolutely correct. I was hoping for some of the holier than thows to speak first. Yes we do make mistakes, yes we do have trouble with or faith at times. That is why Paul wrote so much about fellowship. Which non existant in churches today as far as biblical fellowship.
 
Whendancer,youre absolutely correct. I was hoping for some of the holier than thows to speak first. Yes we do make mistakes, yes we do have trouble with or faith at times. That is why Paul wrote so much about fellowship. Which non existant in churches today as far as biblical fellowship.
This might help :-)
John 3:16 explained :-)
 
My point is not to go out and just live in sin. We should never just feed the flesh and worldly desires. However we are all human and sometimes we all make mistakes. Sometimes we have issues with our faith, sometimes we steer left instead of right.
 
I have learned that even when you have purposed in your heart to do what is right, the temptation to do what is wrong is ever present. Even Paul admitted that he struggled with this. But, in 1st John - therein lies our hope: Jesus Christ - our Mediating Brother, Friend, and Lord. As long as we humble ourselv
 
1Jn 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
1Jn 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
1Jn 1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
 
Ya know i was rejected from a church because a woman didnt like the way i look. I was told from other churches that wasnt saved because have knofe scars and other scars from things of such from being jumped for my faith by my brothers and their friends. I was judged because i am missing a lot of teeth from brutal beatings i took whle being jumped. Had my life threatened by churchanity christians because i got stabbed for saving a lady from being raped by multiple guys. Even on here i got judged for posting and even told i dont know Jesus. Going to church doent make you saved.
 
Beauty is as beauty does. Handsome is as handsome does. I have seen people with various kinds of deformities married to people's whose hearts were so full of compassion that looks meant nothing to them. At the same time, I am aquainted with some of the most handsome and beautiful people that you would expect to see on magazine covers. But, they are some of the most lustful...self-centered people that you would meet. When you are, truly, born again and the Holy Spirit has poured GOD's love in your heart - you don't need to explain to anyone why your face is scarred nor why your teeth are missing. The TRUE Body of Christ would not need to see anything but the Fruit of the Holy Spirit....the mature ones that is. Light your light so shine that MEN MAY SEE YOUR GOOD DEEDS (not scars or missing teeth) and glorify the FATHER who is in Heaven. Amen? One of my favorite things about being IN CHRIST is the potential to do things....INVISIBLY! It's just flat out fun when you can do things to exalt the NAME OF JESUS while glorifying the FATHER without anyone remembering what you look like or even yout name. Be encouraged!
 
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