Only 1,000 years?

[Reba1]

But The NEW JERUSALEM that is in the sky and we will Rule from the SKY

Heb 12:22 But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,

What @PloughBoy, Mr. Bible Scholar, is the tense of ye are come

 

[Reba1]

::: SHOCKING FACTS ABOUT DISPENSATIONALISM ::: I just finished reading this, my conclusion? There is no physical thousand year reign here on the earth. As I suspected for sometime, but now i am sure it is so.

I agree
Psa 50:10 For every beast of the forest is mine, and the cattle upon a thousand hills. who owns the cattle on hill 1001

 

[PloughBoy]

I agree
Psa 50:10 For every beast of the forest is mine, and the cattle upon a thousand hills. who owns the cattle on hill 1001

I have never read anything about dispensationalism even in The New Scofield Reference Study bible and i have own many 1967-1999 copyrights. So I am wondering about the article that "Gregoryp" have posted. now if I read the "article" he has posted then i will have to read about "Dispensationalism" the completion of its entirety before i can make a sound decision on the article "Shocking Facts about Dispensationalism". and I would have to read it 1st. before the article to keep me from being "Bias".

And i do not feel like "Studying" a whole week, or better which is most likely to grasp and proofread "DISPENSATIONALISM"
And i know it is going to take at least intense studying, to grasp "Dispensationalism" because it is a "doctrine" and then read "Gregoryp" posted article again and check where they got their source and whether their source is "Authoritative" and where they got their information.

I think not, my "Seminary" days of study is over with. And i know to make a "righteous" evaluation you must do a "Proper investigation" of the questing article if not, you might take in a speck of a lie and that lie with grow roots and the roots will spread and grow strong. That is why i chose the BIBLE for my only source and a "EXCELLENT" translation 3 at a time. and questing every word. I have never study "eschatology'". I just read the Bible as a BOOK over and over again. and after years of this kind of reading one day, When I got through reading "Revelation" the last page I close the Book and the "Entire LIGHT came on, and i said oh. I got it the whole story and the purpose of "GOD" and I set down in a chair and was amazed. , The Babylons, The Persians, the greeks, the romans, the Kings and Queens everything made sense. everything even in my life made "Theological sense. the coming Kingdom, the purpose of the Temporal world, the angels, the purpose of the devil, every thing clear. Even the "SILENCE of The 1/2 hour in Heaven" and the part Where the angel told DANIEL to write no more. I remember the day when i close that BOOK. And set back and how I felt. And still do not know what the next day holds.
and it is scary.

I been like that for over 40 years. I am so leery about any type of "Textual Criticism" to much foot work. It takes you away from "Systematic" Theological Personal Study. time spent with GOD in the BOOK by letting Him reveal "THE TRUTH".to you. When you studying such other ways , there is no time or room for "GOD" to instruct you in anything. Out side of that, all a person is doing is learning Book, and feeding their personal; desires. they have not the time or patience to let "GOD" show them what HE wants them to know. When picking the bible up, or where he guides. Your prayers is always. "what you want me to known. and after years you do not even have to pray that prayer it becomes a way of life it becomes your character this becomes you. And when waken in the morning you know where you are going in The TRUTH And you Muti-task. And it all fits together. You think about it , how it comes together but you do not stop. you just keep going.

I can talk about GOD non stop.
The other week, me and one of my teen grand sons late teens Was in the basement and i was talking about "GOD" and we was in the "ZONE" and I look at my watch and went upstairs and ask my daughter what is wrong why is so dark outside at 2:00 in the afternoon. and they look at me with a stare. And I said what, I said why is it dark outside at 2:00 in the evening. They said it is not 2;00 in the evening it is in the morning. i have a very bad back, Me and my grandson was talking about GOD from that morning to the next day in the morning and we did not sit down all of that time and my back did not hurt. And i can hardly stand for 20 minutes at a time.....And he said "granddaddy" we was talking about "GOD" and I like it! You told me things i never knew about GOD and granddaddy I like it.

 

[Reba1]

I have never read anything about dispensationalism even in The New Scofield Reference Study bible and i have own many 1967-1999 copyrights.

You never read the footnotes in the Scofield Bible?

 

[PloughBoy]

You never read the footnotes in the Scofield Bible?

I really never study the foot notes at the bottom of the pages . But loved Marginal notes on the side and word changes. and The title introduction at the beginning of The books or letters and the Introduction pages for understand how to read The NSRB. But footnotes to many deterrent for me. so i never got in that practice. I was to curious to see what the Bible or GOD was SAYING. THE STORIES and the characters were fascinating to me! It was my first Bible and i slept with it It was nothing for me to spend about 8 hours a day in it for years. 5 to 6 hours a day at work I worn it out from front to back in a couple of months. One week i read the whole book and 2 weeks i had read it twice. LOL! I was trying to remember the whole book by memory. and figure i would have it done in 7 mos. copyright 1967. I loved that BOOK, I love it. what it cost back then about $70.00 I still got it in my Library. about about 7 of them. 1967 and 1999 copyrights. and couple of "Thompson Chains" 1984 copyright.
God made it possible for me to read at work 5-6 hours a day at work, and a couple hours at home, for years On Saturdays i would be at work 8 hours of study I didn't have to work just be there i had a office, I just had to be there, 8 hours study on Saturday. I have worn some BIBLES OUT. and ENCYCLOPEDIA'S
and dictionaries Some times i would just spend weeks just reading the Dictionary. or the bible encyclopedia's and i cried a lot praying to GOD to help me remember what i was reading. I cried, and i cried, and i cried at work i cried home, i cried in the car, i cried, i could not remember what i read, i could not pronounce the words. And when i got to the greek stuff and those Biblical Terminologies ain't no way in the world i'm going get this. Heck i can't even speak english, I got my high school english book. My mother have kept all of my schools books since I was 4 years old. I got my French books out and Spanish books out. Literature books .I took some speech classes in college. Poetry, Interpretive reading, I remember listening to Theologian giving lectures i didn't understand a word they was saying, but it did sound good! I jusy sat there and listen. And they would ask me a question. By this time i knew the Gospels, I would give them one of JESUS answers. And they shake their head and say ok, that will do. a bunch of "Pharisees".

 

[Reba1]

If you read Scofield's notes, I did not say studied, you read the basics of dispensationalism. Scofield was incorrect on a few important points.

 

[PloughBoy]

If you read Scofield's notes, I did not say studied, you read the basics of dispensationalism. Scofield was incorrect on a few important points.

ok i didn't read them at all. and i am not going to study any thing about Dispensationalism. or Eschatology. I have a problem with any thing that belongs to and comes from a church.because i believe the institutionalize Is "The GREAT horse of Babylon" with her little offsprings" and her little independent popes. and bishops and cardinals. I stay clear of them. And do not want to hear nothing they have to say. I rather listen to you and most of my friends on "TALKJESUS" then hear one sentence out of those little popes mouths, not all but most.
If you ask me to define "Dispensationalism" i would not know where to begin or what , all it is pertaining too I could n't begin. Now you see, i do not know everything. And the things i do not know nothing about or limited in that knowledge i do not talk about it. And at this age it will take too much time to learn about such things.

I do know the different views of the "Tribulation" school of thoughts". In which i am pre-tribulation but not The describe view of the " Doctrine of Pre-Tribulation" as recorded in that doctrine. My agreement there is this "we will not go threw the tribulation period' the 31/2 year period before "JACOB's Trouble". which is the last half which is called "The GREAT TRIBULATION". AND I could be wrong, And most of my reading understanding is so different than others pertaining to the "Olivet Discourse". I am just a reader of the book Just like some study the Book of REVELATION I don't , The Bible says" Blessed is the person who reads or hears the words of this book. it did not say Blesseth is the person who study's it. I do not have to think about that.
Sometimes i am complicate and sometimes i am simple concerning the text of Scripture.

 

[Reba1]

I would not ask anyone to study Dispensationalism. To understand counterfeit money one studies the real. I will say i believe living in the USA has contributed much to a view of 'dispensationalism' in your head.
Every time God slapped Israel up side the head He gave them ample warning pleading their repentance . to my understanding the Olivet Discourse was the last warning...

Is not Christ the center of God's History?

 

[PloughBoy]

I would not ask anyone to study Dispensationalism. To understand counterfeit money one studies the real. I will say i believe living in the USA has contributed much to a view of 'dispensationalism' in your head.
Every time God slapped Israel up side the head He gave them ample warning pleading their repentance . to my understanding the Olivet Discourse was the last warning...

Is not Christ the center of God's History?

I have a plumb line, and you cannot get no better than that. I have 3 NSRB 1967 under the lamp table right now, in the living room and that is where they are going to stay until they will become useful for reading for some of my grand children friends happen to be here. and by chance i have a unction from The Holy spirit to have them read. that is where they are going to stay and the last thing i will be doing is reading something about "dispensationalism" what some man made works. And i am not in to that worldly religious works. That stuff do not anoint me. Maybe others are anointed by it. i am to old to be doing stuff like that.

I have went over the the books of "Isaiah", Ezekiel. Jeremiah this month about 5 times each this month alone. and I am dreaming about them when I lay down and when I sleep and when I raise in the morning they are running around in my head. and the real world do not even seems real any more.
The events about the "MILLENNIUM " in those books have capture me in my dreams again. When i wake up i have to figure where i am at. because i have been in the "kingdom" as those books have describe it and the word of GOD is speaking to my soul and I be listening to it, then i waken, i have to come back to the real world, and i be trying to remember what I heard and i cannot remember what I heard and it is Let down a big one. It is like, you are in ETERNITY and Listening to The WORD OF GOD clearly and understand it perfectly, I CANNOT explain it. But then when you awaken and get up you try to remember what was happening and what the words were and you can't. And you cannot wait to go to sleep the next time, but not in a hurry to go back to sleep.

If you think i am to pollute those sweet dreams with the thoughts of man made doctrines i think not. I remember years ago, when i went to sleep i would pray: "LORD" let me dream I am walking the STREETS of JERUSALEM, and I have walked the old Streets of Jerusalem , and I have Dream and I have had a "Beatific Vision" before and walk the streets Of "The NEW JERUSALEM" in a GLORIFIED BODY for I walked the street of GOLD and observe The GLORY as MY LEGS moved Step by step and how The GLORIFIED Air of GOD commented the Movement of MY LEGS and The SWAY and The MOVEMENT My ARMS and i watch The GLORIFIED air move between my FINGERS. As I turn my HEAD and tilt it to the side the GLORY of GOD Complimented every movement I made. And I look at a BUILDING and I Look in a distance, I saw, as if there were Little Children playing in a Glorified Playground and Their Glorified Bodies were different and But they was Glorified. and that happen about 2018 i think.

I don't like those visions. because the Greater the VISION and The Illuminations or revelation. what ever you want to call them. The DEEPER and the darker the valley is going to be. And there ain't no angels down there either. at least the bright ones. When you get down there, you are going to receive some wounds. It never fails. "Paul did not lie" The Higher and Brighter the MOUNTAIN, The DEEPER and darker is the valley, and you cannot do nothing about it. And guarantee, that devil and i do not mean demons. The devil is going to be there. He is Invisible and You are going get wounded. And after a few time getting those kind of Visions and revelations you do not want any more. But GOD is the one, who does the "Pruning" And it ain't no joke! and you cannot stop"GOD", from doing what HE is GOING to DO! The down side! I fear the blessing of "GOD" The True Blessing! those blessing comes with a big cost. Worldly blessing are temporal, and the Fire will burn them up. But Heavenly Blessing are "Eternal" and they are for your "Glorification" and it hurts that "HONING KNIFE" ain't no joke either.

Shalom

 

[complete]

complete said:-
Hello @Hitch,

Your subject heading asks the question:- 'Only 1,000 years?'

If you are referring to the reign of Christ, then no, it does not last for a mere 1,000 years. That time refers to the reward of the Overcomers, who will live and reign with Him for 1,000 years. What a privilege that is! Isn't it?

Without Christ there would be no history. No earth, no heaven, no world to dwell in and no inhabitant; for He as the living Word, Who in the beginning was with God, and who Himself is God, created the heavens and the earth and all that is therein. So, yes He will come again, as the Word of God says: and He will perform all that the Scriptures say concerning Him; for He must reign till He has put down all rule and authority, and the last enemy to be destroyed is death.

Within the love of Christ our Saviour,
Chris

complete said:-
If you are referring to the reign of Christ, then no, it does not last for a mere 1,000 years. That time refers to the reward of the Overcomers, who will live and reign with Him for 1,000 years. What a privilege that is! Isn't it?

Hitch said:-
Care to explain this ?

Hello @Hitch,

The reign of Christ will last a lot longer than the 1,000 years (Revelation 11:15). The 1,000 years reign is the reward of the Overcomers, who will live and reign with Christ for that duration, as Priests of God and of Christ, as is seen in the Scripture below:-

'And I saw an angel come down from heaven,
having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan,
and bound him a thousand years,
And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him,
that he should deceive the nations no more,
till the thousand years should be fulfilled:
and after that he must be loosed a little season.

And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them:
and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded ( Revelation 6:9-11 )
for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God,
and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image,
neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands;
and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished.
This is the first resurrection.
Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection:
on such the second death hath no power,
but they shall be priests of God and of Christ,
and shall reign with Him a thousand years.'
(Rev 20:1-6)

Some of those so rewarded are seen in Revelation 6:9-11:-

'And when he had opened the fifth seal,
I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain
for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:
And they cried with a loud voice, saying,
How long, O Lord, holy and true,
dost thou not judge and avenge our blood
on them that dwell on the earth?
And white robes were given unto every one of them;
and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season,
until their fellowservants also and their brethren,
that should be killed as they were,
should be fulfilled.'
(Rev 6:9-11)

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

[Reba1]

If you think i am to pollute those sweet dreams with the thoughts of man made doctrines i think not. I remember years ago, when i went to sleep i would pray: "LORD" let me dream I am walking the STREETS of JERUSALEM, and I have walked the old Streets of Jerusalem , and I have Dream and I have had a "Beatific Vision" before and walk the streets Of "The NEW JERUSALEM" in a GLORIFIED BODY for I walked the street of GOLD and observe The GLORY as MY LEGS moved Step by step and how The GLORIFIED Air of GOD commented the Movement of MY LEGS and The SWAY and The MOVEMENT My ARMS and i watch The GLORIFIED air move between my FINGERS. As I turn my HEAD and tilt it to the side the GLORY of GOD Complimented every movement I made. And I look at a BUILDING and I Look in a distance, I saw, as if there were Little Children playing in a Glorified Playground and Their Glorified Bodies were different and But they was Glorified. and that happen about 2018 i think.

The Scriptures tell us we have come to the New Jerusalem. it does not say in a few thousand years there will be a New Jerusalem . The Jewish leaders of 2000 years ago dismissed The Christ because He is humble . Looks like the rest of us so to speak. . He did not come in their eyes as a victorious warrior king they would/could not look beyond what they wanted to see. They would/could not grasp the true freedom Jesus offered. His Kingdom is not the kind of kingdom they wanted I find no other description of His Kingdome then this .. Rom 14:17 For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost. Yet today this is rejected as His Kingdom People are still looking for a palace and throne room . In spite of what the Scriptures say.

I do not will not believe He set Himself up to fail at building His Church, His Body , We are the building block of His inhabitance yet so many reject the reality of
Eph 2:20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;
Eph 2:21 In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:
Eph 2:22 In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.

1Pe 2:4 To whom coming, as unto a living stone, disallowed indeed of men, but chosen of God, and precious,
1Pe 2:5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.
1Pe 2:6 Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.

YET many re looking hoping for a man built temple as if the Scriptures do not tell us other wise.

 

[PloughBoy]

The Scriptures tell us we have come to the New Jerusalem. it does not say in a few thousand years there will be a New Jerusalem . The Jewish leaders of 2000 years ago dismissed The Christ because He is humble . Looks like the rest of us so to speak. . He did not come in their eyes as a victorious warrior king they would/could not look beyond what they wanted to see. They would/could not grasp the true freedom Jesus offered. His Kingdom is not the kind of kingdom they wanted I find no other description of His Kingdome then this .. Rom 14:17 For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost. Yet today this is rejected as His Kingdom People are still looking for a palace and throne room . In spite of what the Scriptures say.

I do not will not believe He set Himself up to fail at building His Church, His Body , We are the building block of His inhabitance yet so many reject the reality of
Eph 2:20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;
Eph 2:21 In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:
Eph 2:22 In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.

1Pe 2:4 To whom coming, as unto a living stone, disallowed indeed of men, but chosen of God, and precious,
1Pe 2:5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.
1Pe 2:6 Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.
I
YET many re looking hoping for a man built temple as if the Scriptures do not tell us other wise.

Ok. "YOU have come" is {indicative] IN THE Text of Scripture we are referring too.... I am going to try to explain it. "many have the wrong idea what "biblical faith" is. ....Biblical Fatih is a "Gift" not earn but given by "GOD". And the product it gives is "HOPE" and "HOPE" is not seen. But This "HOPE"Gives us "Rest Assurance" that what GOD has promise will come to pass. It is "The ANCHOR of Our SOUL"

(HEBREWS 12)BSB
?Instead, you have come[INDICATIVE]to Mount Zion, to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem. You have come to myriads of angels in joyful assembly, to the congregation of the firstborn, enrolled in heaven. You have come to God the Judge of all, to the spirits of the righteous made perfect,…"......................We are not there now, it is "INDICATIVE" It WILL COME to pass, "It is rest assured" done deal You cannot loose your SALVATION
if you really have it. GOD has already decided who will become his "ADOPTED SONS" it is a DONE DEAL. HOW many, done deal. And if "one" go astray that one will be recovered, "DONE DEAL" all "100%" That belongs to HIM.....will be saved, because "99%" will not do. When "GOD" so "Ordains" something "Done DEAL" "Done DEAL"

We are are still on earth, GOD and his SON is in "ETERNITY" we are Not. "THE HEAVENLY NEW JERUSALEM" is still being "Prepared" BY "GOD" This New JERUSALEM is so "MAGNIFICENT" it will spell bound all "ETERNITY" and it never will cease to AMAZE Us. For ever and Ever. If your mind can imagine the NEW JERUSALEM and THE KINGDOM and what it is. You have miss The MARK. And thinking still like a corrupted mere moral man And come way short who "GOD" IS. WE have not arrive there, neither have arrived at The KINGDOM. But it is "INDICATIVE"!

A lot of christians always want to take "The Preeminence from Jesus Christ: and take a Little view of "GOD" as some small creature that sits back and hope for something to happen. And they always refuse to Believe "The Full DOCTRINE of Predestination"........ And when christians do not understand that ,

"GOD" The FATHER will always be little and small in Their minds. And many will adopt and keep feeding in their minds "word of faith" terminology.

They will honor him and praise him and say he is god. But "Preeminence", for that is slipping away more and more each day. for down through the years the preeminence of viewing "GOD" have slip into the darkness by many who claims his name. and call Him JESUS. But really they view HIM as a "GENIE in bottle" give him three rubs and he will grant your wish and give you the desires of your heart just believe and it will come pass

(Matthew 15)KJV Jesus said these words [ but many christians will tell you the people loved Jesus] but when you read you find them to be liars.
"This people drawth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoreth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me.
But in vain they do worship me, teaching the for doctrines the commandments of men"

Know The TRUTH and it will set you free. Free from what? Free from LIES.

If anyone who is a child of the Living GOD. Thinks that they can see or imagine what the kingdom of GOD is, somebody have fed you "cool-aid" It is noway anyone can perceive or imagine spiritual and humanly have a hit what is and how it looks and its appearance.

This world is pure sin and corrupted and beyond repair. Contaminated minds everything even the things we see are not what they appear to be. If any could see what we really look like now! We would die from fright and horror! We do not look like Adam and Eve look before the Fall.

I have told y'all about reading those books.

 

[Hitch]

Ok. "YOU have come" is {indicative] IN THE Text of Scripture we are referring too.... I am going to try to explain it. "many have the wrong idea what "biblical faith" is. ....Biblical Fatih is a "Gift" not earn but given by "GOD". And the product it gives is "HOPE" and "HOPE" is not seen. But This "HOPE"Gives us "Rest Assurance" that what GOD has promise will come to pass. It is "The ANCHOR of Our SOUL"

(HEBREWS 12)BSB
?Instead, you have come[INDICATIVE]to Mount Zion, to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem. You have come to myriads of angels in joyful assembly, to the congregation of the firstborn, enrolled in heaven. You have come to God the Judge of all, to the spirits of the righteous made perfect,…"......................We are not there now, it is "INDICATIVE" It WILL COME to pass, "It is rest assured" done deal You cannot loose your SALVATION
if you really have it. GOD has already decided who will become his "ADOPTED SONS" it is a DONE DEAL. HOW many, done deal. And if "one" go astray that one will be recovered, "DONE DEAL" all "100%" That belongs to HIM.....will be saved, because "99%" will not do. When "GOD" so "Ordains" something "Done DEAL" "Done DEAL"

We are are still on earth, GOD and his SON is in "ETERNITY" we are Not. "THE HEAVENLY NEW JERUSALEM" is still being "Prepared" BY "GOD" This New JERUSALEM is so "MAGNIFICENT" it will spell bound all "ETERNITY" and it never will cease to AMAZE Us. For ever and Ever. If your mind can imagine the NEW JERUSALEM and THE KINGDOM and what it is. You have miss The MARK. And thinking still like a corrupted mere moral man And come way short who "GOD" IS. WE have not arrive there, neither have arrived at The KINGDOM. But it is "INDICATIVE"!

A lot of christians always want to take "The Preeminence from Jesus Christ: and take a Little view of "GOD" as some small creature that sits back and hope for something to happen. And they always refuse to Believe "The Full DOCTRINE of Predestination"........ And when christians do not understand that ,

"GOD" The FATHER will always be little and small in Their minds. And many will adopt and keep feeding in their minds "word of faith" terminology.

They will honor him and praise him and say he is god. But "Preeminence", for that is slipping away more and more each day. for down through the years the preeminence of viewing "GOD" have slip into the darkness by many who claims his name. and call Him JESUS. But really they view HIM as a "GENIE in bottle" give him three rubs and he will grant your wish and give you the desires of your heart just believe and it will come pass

(Matthew 15)KJV Jesus said these words [ but many christians will tell you the people loved Jesus] but when you read you find them to be liars.
"This people drawth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoreth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me.
But in vain they do worship me, teaching the for doctrines the commandments of men"

Know The TRUTH and it will set you free. Free from what? Free from LIES.

If anyone who is a child of the Living GOD. Thinks that they can see or imagine what the kingdom of GOD is, somebody have fed you "cool-aid" It is noway anyone can perceive or imagine spiritual and humanly have a hit what is and how it looks and its appearance.

This world is pure sin and corrupted and beyond repair. Contaminated minds everything even the things we see are not what they appear to be. If any could see what we really look like now! We would die from fright and horror! We do not look like Adam and Eve look before the Fall.

I have told y'all about reading those books.

" that what GOD has promise will come to pass

'Thy will be done on earth as it is Heaven "

 

[Reba1]

If anyone who is a child of the Living GOD. Thinks that they can see or imagine what the kingdom of GOD is, somebody have fed you "cool-aid" It is noway anyone can perceive or imagine spiritual and humanly have a hit what is and how it looks and its appearance.

The Scriptures tell us what His Kingdom is . Are you refusing to accept what His word says ? God did not serve up kool-aid in place of Rom 14:17 For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost. How dare you suggest He did.

One can choose to believe the dispensational fairy tale or the Scriptures

 

[PloughBoy]

The Scriptures tell us what His Kingdom is . Are you refusing to accept what His word says ? God did not serve up kool-aid in place of Rom 14:17 For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost. How dare you suggest He did.

One can choose to believe the dispensational fairy tale or the Scriptures

I am going ask you a question do you know the difference between a"translation" and "the WORD of GOD"? That is a yes or no question.

 

[Reba1]

Yes do you ?

 

[Hitch]

'Thy will be done on earth as it is Heaven "

I am going ask you a question do you know the difference between a"translation" and "the WORD of GOD"? That is a yes or no question.

I

I am going ask you a question do you know the difference between a"translation" and "the WORD of GOD"? That is a yes or no question.

Do you know the difference between the Heavenly Jerusalem and the Church ?

 

[PloughBoy]

Yes do you ?

That was "Bible Introduction 101" in late 1970's which is "mandatory". No seminary or Bible college is going to let you take any classes unless, you Take introductions classes 1st. and those classes are non- accredited. You are going to know about the book and they are going to make sure you know the difference between, a Bible, "Holy Scriptures", " scripture", " Original copied Manuscript"The different kinds of Translations and their purpose, Paraphrases the different kinds and their purpose, The Greek Alphabet, Hebrew Alphabet, how to translate the greek text in the english language, and the Hebrew into the english,

This is "kindergarden" before you get into the college courses, or Seminary. courses. and you cannot get around it. This is what a lot of laymen take just to know how to read the Bible. It teaches how to study, the discipline to stay with it. Churches want to teach the BIBLE, colleges and Seminaries teaches you how to read and STUDY the BIBLE. The "Discipline". { i have time and discipline in the TEXT" years of discipline sometimes 24 hours straight maybe just in one "Biblical WORD", with prayers and strong cryings and laying down on the floor with arms stretch out. Asking "GOD" to write these events and words into my "SOUL" and not my mind. crying. years of this, daily. nightly, For this The world and people cannot take away from me. and this will be with me "THROUGHOUT" ETERNITY. The world can take everything from me but this "The World" cannot take it away They cannot take it from me!

You know what, many throughout the years have tried to prove me wrong concerning the Biblical text. and many have come up front and told me. They have tried to catch me wrong concerning the "TEXT" and its explanation. And they never have prove me wrong, but they were honest and told me face to face, there goal was to prove me wrong concerning the interpretation of The Biblical text. [but i have given away sometimes when i thought it was applicable.]

Reba 1, you cannot get no where by trying to catch me wrong concerning The Biblical Text. Instead of wasting time proving me wrong, you should consider investigating the TEXT in question, and see "WHAT the TEXT" is actually saying. And stop there, and wait on "GOD" to give the understand how is this come to be. " Once you see the TRUTH wait on the understanding. it may be given in 1 week, 3 Months, 1 year, 3 years, then again it may be "tomorrow" [ GOD has never called us to "like" The TRUTH but seek it and Know The TRUTH.]

Stop trying to prove me wrong. I am not trying to seek my own glory or have men to like me.

Many act like i am their enemy and treat me as such, my own brothers and sisters in Christ , thinking I am trying to deceive them and feed them lies and they think, i go with great concern to deceive them and lead them into great demonic falsehood. And that is not The TRUTH. But one day but one day when we stand at The BEMA SEAT all things will be revealed.

 

[Reba1]

It is not me that wrote Romans 14:17 you complaint is to God

 

[PloughBoy]

It is not me that wrote Romans 14:17 you complaint is to God

hey i do not even have hint what you are are referring ,too and as the day go's on, i do not think we are brother and sister in Christ, we cannot be. I do know you are christian and it is over 2.6 Billion of y'all and i respect all of you. But I ain't I am "A CHILD OF THE LIVING GOD" with no "nickname" or "Alias" and me you are different as Night is To DAY" And I know I am His CHILD! with no doubt, and Sealed. and i see there is no love whats so ever between me and you! So we will see, at the last day who with JUDGE who. No doubt, it might be a close call. I am a endurance runner. And I am headed for the Finish Line. And i got my "PF FLYERS"on.

New International Version
Do you not know that in a race all the runners run, but only one gets the prize? Run in such a way as to get the prize.

Rightly so:
New International Version
For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking, but of righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Spirit,

But make sure you ain't at the other party. Jumping up and down waving your hands in air, and doing the "HOLY LAUGHTER"

…"For you are fully aware that the Day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night. While people are saying, “Peace and security,” destruction will come upon them suddenly, like labor pains on a pregnant woman, and they will not escape."

Well just maybe, you can catch the Second ship out. There is another boat coming after "The Tribulation the second part , that GREAT One" and you can lead them in "peace and Joy" in the "HOLY SPIRIT" while waiting on it.

Happy Hunting I wish you well, we will be counting on you. Make us proud of you.