Nephillim

[KingJ]

Wow, didn't expect this in a Nephilim thread, thanks for sharing. What a testimony.

 

[joestue]

I merely quoted your line of thinking.

Where is your rebuttal to my post # 68, I see you have gone silent on defending your accusation that I was lying. Maybe that has something to do with you and I not able to have a friendly discussion?

Because its not worth replying to.

Every single one of your arguments that sin is not what condemns is an out of context situation.

You're inventing a a new gospel to preach that almost everyone goes to heaven unless they are totally depraved, and under the age of 20 everyone is forgiven by default because they aren't an adult.

whats your real motivation for this? no one in the church history has taught such a thing except for the universalists.

did you forget that Jesus said "the way is narrow and few find it"?

i know of a woman who twisted hundreds of bible verses to say that Jesus is going to be born again of a virgin, raptured with the church at 3.5 years of age, and return at age 7 after the tribulation to rule over the nations with an iron rod.

-what evil nations will exist after the tribulation that need to be ruled over with an iron rod?

-she, like yourself, can twist the bible to say anything you want, but you can't get around some of the simpler things Jesus said.

 

[KingJ]

Because its not worth replying to.

There is nothing more worth replying to. If you honestly believe someone is teaching falsely you must correct them. Or at least try.

The secret to debate is to remember always that scripture correct scripture. You have false teaching because people cherry pick scriptures and when confronted with ''further'' scripture that provides context, they stick their heads in the ground like an ostrich.

This is what we learn firsthand from Jesus in the wilderness being tested by the devil (Matt 4). "'It is also written, don't tempt God''.

Every single one of your arguments that sin is not what condemns is an out of context situation.

That's your opinion until you prove it.

You're inventing a a new gospel to preach that almost everyone goes to heaven unless they are totally depraved, and under the age of 20 everyone is forgiven by default because they aren't an adult.

You are merely showing me that you do not properly read posts before you reply.

This is not my belief. You would have to quote me.

that almost everyone goes to heaven unless they are totally depraved,

Your reading skills my friend, they are truly shocking. The point being made in post # 68 is that only when an evil person is sold out to a love of evil / completely beyond hope of true repentance, will God send them to a fiery punishment. I hope this is a minority, but scripture teaches the opposite.

and under the age of 20 everyone is forgiven by default because they aren't an adult.

Mentally handicapped and all under twenty are exempt from judgment. That is not the same as 'forgiven'. God is impartial. It is only a matter of time before those exempt will, just like everyone else, also receive time and space to exercise their true free will. Rev 20:3 teaches this.

whats your real motivation for this? no one in the church history has taught such a thing except for the universalists.

Nobody has so terribly misread one of my posts before.

did you forget that Jesus said "the way is narrow and few find it"?

No.

i know of a woman who twisted hundreds of bible verses to say that Jesus is going to be born again of a virgin, raptured with the church at 3.5 years of age, and return at age 7 after the tribulation to rule over the nations with an iron rod.

She sounds crazy. She would lose a scripture based debate.

-what evil nations will exist after the tribulation that need to be ruled over with an iron rod?

That is a very good question and the answer is very simple. None that exist right now. It will be new nations and people. If you have studied the book of revelations you will know that that seven year period of great tribulation is one of the harshest filtering processes of wicked people that has ever been done and will ever be done. Only two types of people escape the tribulation. Either True saints ready for heaven or pure wicked people ready for hell.

-she, like yourself, can twist the bible to say anything you want, but you can't get around some of the simpler things Jesus said.

It is because many twist scripture that debate is so important. And no, there is a massive difference between her and I. She would easily lose a debate. I don't believe I would. I wouldn't know, you have yet to challenge the fifty scriptures and sound logical argument I gave you.

Let's step back and think about the argument you are trying to raise, logically. By disagreeing with me, you are implying that God can and will send any and every person that simply makes any mistake of sin off to ETERNAL PUNISHMENT where there is FIRE, DARKNESS, and WEEPING and GNASHING of teeth. That sounds like a very emotionally unstable and unjust God. Is that your view of God?

 

[joestue]

This is not my belief. You would have to quote me.

exempt from judgement is the same as being forgiven, which means you go to heaven, not hell.

again, you're inventing new classifications of things that have no basis in logic or scripture.

 

[KingJ]

exempt from judgement is the same as being forgiven, which means you go to heaven, not hell.

again, you're inventing new classifications of things that have no basis in logic or scripture.

Joestue, are you for real? Did you miss this explanation?

and under the age of 20 everyone is forgiven by default because they aren't an adult.

Mentally handicapped and all under twenty are exempt from judgment. That is not the same as 'forgiven'. God is impartial. It is only a matter of time before those exempt will, just like everyone else, also receive time and space to exercise their true free will. Rev 20:3 teaches this.