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About 500 years ago there was something called the Protestant reformation. Martin Luther was one of the men called by God to lead this movement.
Nearly 100 years ago, the Pentecostal church had something called the Azuza street revival.
Now there is a new movement in the church. It seems most Christians aren't aware of it, even though your church may be a part of it.
It seems this is "mostly" affecting charismatic Pentecostal churches, but just about all denominations are involved at some level.
Some Assembly of God, Baptist, Lutheran, Methodist, Roman Catholic, Episcopalian/Anglican, and Church of Christ churches have started accepting it.
There is a lot of debate of whether this is actually a movement from God, or an attempt by Satan to separate and deceive the church yet again.
So what is this NAR (new Apostolic Reformation) and is it Biblical? How does it affect me?
The answer isn't as straight forward as you might think. Also much like the denominations listed above, they don't all agree what it is, and not everyone accepts
all parts of it. So what is it?
For one thing, there is the "office" of prophet. This mostly comes from...
1Cor 12:28; And God has appointed in the church, first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, administrations, various kinds of tongues.
1Cor 12:29; All are not apostles, are they? All are not prophets, are they? All are not teachers, are they? All are not workers of miracles, are they?
1Cor 12:30; All do not have gifts of healings, do they? All do not speak with tongues, do they? All do not interpret, do they?
1Cor 12:31; But earnestly desire the greater gifts. And I show you a still more excellent way.
It seems some believe there is the 'gift' of prophecy (12 Cor chapter 12) but others believe there is also the 'office' of 'Prophet'.
Let me explain the difference. Pentecostal churches believe certain people in the church have the gift of prophecy. But this could be several people in one church.
They believe there are usually at least a few people that have this gift in every church.
Under NAR, this is slightly different... there is the 'office' of a prophet. He is like the Pope, He is 'the Prophet' over the entire church (all churches, not just a denomination).
He is God's chosen spokesperson to tell the church what to do. In some cases, even if what he tells them to do isn't Biblical.
The Mormon church has the office of Prophet also. He is the head of the Mormon church. But the Bible says...
Eph 5:23; For the husband is the head of the wife, as Christ also is the head of the church, He Himself being the Savior of the body.
I am leery of any man who says He is the leader of the (entire global) church. Many well known pastors have bought off on this. Including Bill Johnson of Bethel chapel.
A lot of Bethel's music is starting to reflect this in a subtle manner.
en.wikipedia.org
magazine.biola.edu
But Bill Johnson is far from the only one. Almost every major denomination has some converts.
Another idea of NAR is "dominionism". This is sometimes called the "Kingdom now" movement. This is the belief that we as 'Christian/Saints' have to conquer
the Earth (seemingly on our own) and bring the kingdom of heaven here, so that Jesus can return reign over the Earth. Now I believe Jesus is returning and will
reign over the Earth at some point, but I don't believe we Christians are capable of overpowering the "powers of the prince of the air" on our own without Jesus.
I also believe God/Jesus is powerful enough they can do whatever they want, whenever they want.
Some (but not all) followers of NAR actually believe Jesus gave up His deity when he was resurrected. He left His deity behind, so that we could assume it.
This is much like the Mormon doctrine of the perpetual godhood. Jesus quit beling God, in order to let you become god. And after you acheive your purpose
as a god (for how ever many thousands/millions years it takes) then you will pass the "god mantle" on the next person in line.
A lot of this comes from...
1Jn 3:2; Beloved, now we are children of God, and it has not appeared as yet what we will be. We know that when He appears, we will be like Him, because we will see Him just as He is.
They take this to mean.. we will be "like Him" to the point of becoming deity ourselves. I guess one question I would have is... if Jesus already gave up His deity and we are going to
be "like" Him, wouldn't that mean we are "not" going to be a god?
There is a lot more to say here, there are some other beliefs that are questionable, but I am out of time for now.
Nearly 100 years ago, the Pentecostal church had something called the Azuza street revival.
Now there is a new movement in the church. It seems most Christians aren't aware of it, even though your church may be a part of it.
It seems this is "mostly" affecting charismatic Pentecostal churches, but just about all denominations are involved at some level.
Some Assembly of God, Baptist, Lutheran, Methodist, Roman Catholic, Episcopalian/Anglican, and Church of Christ churches have started accepting it.
There is a lot of debate of whether this is actually a movement from God, or an attempt by Satan to separate and deceive the church yet again.
So what is this NAR (new Apostolic Reformation) and is it Biblical? How does it affect me?
The answer isn't as straight forward as you might think. Also much like the denominations listed above, they don't all agree what it is, and not everyone accepts
all parts of it. So what is it?
For one thing, there is the "office" of prophet. This mostly comes from...
1Cor 12:28; And God has appointed in the church, first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, administrations, various kinds of tongues.
1Cor 12:29; All are not apostles, are they? All are not prophets, are they? All are not teachers, are they? All are not workers of miracles, are they?
1Cor 12:30; All do not have gifts of healings, do they? All do not speak with tongues, do they? All do not interpret, do they?
1Cor 12:31; But earnestly desire the greater gifts. And I show you a still more excellent way.
It seems some believe there is the 'gift' of prophecy (12 Cor chapter 12) but others believe there is also the 'office' of 'Prophet'.
Let me explain the difference. Pentecostal churches believe certain people in the church have the gift of prophecy. But this could be several people in one church.
They believe there are usually at least a few people that have this gift in every church.
Under NAR, this is slightly different... there is the 'office' of a prophet. He is like the Pope, He is 'the Prophet' over the entire church (all churches, not just a denomination).
He is God's chosen spokesperson to tell the church what to do. In some cases, even if what he tells them to do isn't Biblical.
The Mormon church has the office of Prophet also. He is the head of the Mormon church. But the Bible says...
Eph 5:23; For the husband is the head of the wife, as Christ also is the head of the church, He Himself being the Savior of the body.
I am leery of any man who says He is the leader of the (entire global) church. Many well known pastors have bought off on this. Including Bill Johnson of Bethel chapel.
A lot of Bethel's music is starting to reflect this in a subtle manner.
New Apostolic Reformation - Wikipedia
A New ‘Reformation’ That Many Don’t Realize They’ve Joined
If you thought apostles and prophets only lived way back in Bible times and have long since disappeared, think again. Contemporary people calling themselves apostles and prophets have many followers. They are vigorously active in churches in the United States and throughout the world. Odds are...
What is the New Apostolic Reformation? | GotQuestions.org
What is the New Apostolic Reformation? Are apostles and prophets supposed to have authority over evangelists, pastors, and teachers in the church today?
www.gotquestions.org
But Bill Johnson is far from the only one. Almost every major denomination has some converts.
Another idea of NAR is "dominionism". This is sometimes called the "Kingdom now" movement. This is the belief that we as 'Christian/Saints' have to conquer
the Earth (seemingly on our own) and bring the kingdom of heaven here, so that Jesus can return reign over the Earth. Now I believe Jesus is returning and will
reign over the Earth at some point, but I don't believe we Christians are capable of overpowering the "powers of the prince of the air" on our own without Jesus.
I also believe God/Jesus is powerful enough they can do whatever they want, whenever they want.
Some (but not all) followers of NAR actually believe Jesus gave up His deity when he was resurrected. He left His deity behind, so that we could assume it.
This is much like the Mormon doctrine of the perpetual godhood. Jesus quit beling God, in order to let you become god. And after you acheive your purpose
as a god (for how ever many thousands/millions years it takes) then you will pass the "god mantle" on the next person in line.
A lot of this comes from...
1Jn 3:2; Beloved, now we are children of God, and it has not appeared as yet what we will be. We know that when He appears, we will be like Him, because we will see Him just as He is.
They take this to mean.. we will be "like Him" to the point of becoming deity ourselves. I guess one question I would have is... if Jesus already gave up His deity and we are going to
be "like" Him, wouldn't that mean we are "not" going to be a god?
There is a lot more to say here, there are some other beliefs that are questionable, but I am out of time for now.