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Deep3Sheep

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May I write you not just recent events with my mom, but little about her background?

Anyway...

My mom has a narcissistic mother herself. For me my grandmother is also very toxic and energy vampire in a way, although I still love her still. But I prefer not to speak to her daily over the phone, because you never know in what mood is she or what she is going to say next.

Anyway...

My mom as a child felt abandoned and abused by her mom. She was raised by her grandmother (fathers) side mostly. Her grandmothers sister was also helping to raise my mom.

As far as I can remember myself, she always told me all the hurt she went through with her mom. Her grandmother actually adopted her father, so they weren't actually related and when she got to know this, she felt even more alone.

Her grandmother held some sort of christian beliefs or values, they went to church, but all my mom sees that all the beliefs are for sheep because they are all fake in nature, all because she does not have any faith since she thinks then you are under mind control and brainwashed because she sees people who proclaim faith, but they aren't true christians. Those people are two faced.

As her grandmother said to those old ladies who came and worshiped an image of Jesus that they pray to God, but believe in Satan.

Same time her grandmother did some sort of witchcraft too, like with new moon she said and did something to remove moms salt wart permanently.

Anyway...

As you get it, my mom always has said- she is not a sheep and never will be!

Alongside with my grandmother, she has a new trigger- and it is me, because I am born again christian. She carelessly uses words like I am such a fool and stupid who does not think for herself who believes in something that does not exist, in her words the end time prophecy is pure fairytale. My experience with God is not real, I am crazy, he does not exist.

The Bible is made up by men so they can control you. She says!

When she hears the name Jesus Christ, she beats me!

I do see the spiritual warfare behind it, but you know. God has told me two things, He will not save her and He does not know such a smart person as I am.

When you are born again, you see things better and abstain from certain things to be more filled with the Holy Spirit. Even such thing as caffeine, but for my mom it is a trouble and she hates to drink coffee alone and is happy if someone else is going to drink coffee with her. She needs company! Yet she needs to be alone by herself. She is quite easily getting angry at me because of my changes.

She feels that I betrayed her and I do not care about her. I just love God with everything I have and I fear him, but my mom sees that I am stubborn in my life changes, I cannot be so stiff, like true to God.

I'd like to end this message with this that my moms friend saw she is healing now, because she opens up with her pain to many more souls. I see a never ending cycle what concerns her mom. She is not healing, but is more frustrated more than ever, because of her past with her mom and now the present problem is me, because I serve God not man. Yet I love my mom as well and am grateful for the gift of life she gave me.
 
May I write you not just recent events with my mom, but little about her background?

Anyway...

My mom has a narcissistic mother herself. For me my grandmother is also very toxic and energy vampire in a way, although I still love her still. But I prefer not to speak to her daily over the phone, because you never know in what mood is she or what she is going to say next.

Anyway...

My mom as a child felt abandoned and abused by her mom. She was raised by her grandmother (fathers) side mostly. Her grandmothers sister was also helping to raise my mom.

As far as I can remember myself, she always told me all the hurt she went through with her mom. Her grandmother actually adopted her father, so they weren't actually related and when she got to know this, she felt even more alone.

Her grandmother held some sort of christian beliefs or values, they went to church, but all my mom sees that all the beliefs are for sheep because they are all fake in nature, all because she does not have any faith since she thinks then you are under mind control and brainwashed because she sees people who proclaim faith, but they aren't true christians. Those people are two faced.

As her grandmother said to those old ladies who came and worshiped an image of Jesus that they pray to God, but believe in Satan.

Same time her grandmother did some sort of witchcraft too, like with new moon she said and did something to remove moms salt wart permanently.

Anyway...

As you get it, my mom always has said- she is not a sheep and never will be!

Alongside with my grandmother, she has a new trigger- and it is me, because I am born again christian. She carelessly uses words like I am such a fool and stupid who does not think for herself who believes in something that does not exist, in her words the end time prophecy is pure fairytale. My experience with God is not real, I am crazy, he does not exist.

The Bible is made up by men so they can control you. She says!

When she hears the name Jesus Christ, she beats me!

I do see the spiritual warfare behind it, but you know. God has told me two things, He will not save her and He does not know such a smart person as I am.

When you are born again, you see things better and abstain from certain things to be more filled with the Holy Spirit. Even such thing as caffeine, but for my mom it is a trouble and she hates to drink coffee alone and is happy if someone else is going to drink coffee with her. She needs company! Yet she needs to be alone by herself. She is quite easily getting angry at me because of my changes.

She feels that I betrayed her and I do not care about her. I just love God with everything I have and I fear him, but my mom sees that I am stubborn in my life changes, I cannot be so stiff, like true to God.

I'd like to end this message with this that my moms friend saw she is healing now, because she opens up with her pain to many more souls. I see a never ending cycle what concerns her mom. She is not healing, but is more frustrated more than ever, because of her past with her mom and now the present problem is me, because I serve God not man. Yet I love my mom as well and am grateful for the gift of life she gave me.
I am truly sorry for you. I grew up with npd mother. I know it all. they almost killed me. chilled today, but still need to watch what i say. The meanness spills out.
There is a good christian ministry counselling she is called Shaneen Meghji.
you can find her on youtube.
She talks and evidence a lot of the spirits behind npd. In depth.
And plenty of good advice.
Then we have the more secular but highly educated Dr Ramani. Rebecca Mandeville for scapegoats. Christian x psychotherapist Dr Les Carter.
He worked with victims of npd for years.
You can find them all on the tube
you can not change them
they think they don`t have a problem
your mother obviously took after traits that is common
take care of yourself, don`t give them anything they can use, and always protect yourself.
Limit contact if you have to, it is possible to still be kind and helpful but to have that boundary
Get up, leave, change subject, tell them that is not nice and then do it
basically do not let them start
grey rock helps
if you haven`t educate yourself on the topic
it might be wrong but right to a certain line to negotiate if you do this for me like stop being mean say x I do this. Or you get this. In work places that is how they deal with them
it is not you. They built a false self and they think it is cracking at every minute. So they rage. abuse.
but in the end you have to protect yourself, and kids.
My mother believes when she dies the light bulb just goes. but she has started to ask strange questions about life after death. She is 80 next year. They often get worse by age.
we can try here and there. and pray. It is a personality disorder. They need deliverance I believe before anything can happen. Think of the entities they have invited in.
You can never do enough be enough for a npd. That is in their nature. sorry. If not that then they will use something else. She needs deliverance. There are self deliverance prayers you might be able to pray in her presence or close by vicinity. check www.catholicexorcism.org check deliverance prayers for laity. they are strong and effective.
They have done studies on criminals in prison their brains compared to normal brains, turned out their centre for empathy in the brain was either non exsistent or peanut size, and the frontal lobe severly lacking kind of half to a normal brain and the back as well. So their reasoning skills and logical skills does not work well which is frontal lobe. Added to that stuck at a toddlers level emotionally. Add more never developed empathy and developed a false self. as defence. all they do is for defence as nothing under the surface. It is truly sad. But they need proper treatment but they do not get it as they do not believe there is anything wrong. as if they are not perfect it cracks. and what is under it is huge amount of shame and inferiority.
also check Sam Vaknin proffessor and self proclaimed npd. He now teaches others.
 
also it is very common to be drawn to and they drawn to you or pinpoint you when you have been through this other npd people or worse psychopaths or other cluster b as it is called they have a radar and can see immediately. so make sure you get help to work through all this. Check Dr Ross Rosenberg. He explains it. also make sure to know the red flags and let them earn your trust. but one in six is those people so we cannot give people benefit of doubt.
 
Sam Vaknin talks about how a npd need to be broken down to totally alone and nothing left to turn into borderline personality disorder which is treatable. good prognosis. but still, they have to want it. I have seen my own mother have dot pupils and freezing like taken over. She has also made strange statements about church. out of the blue. another has said "you believe in him.. that won`t help you".. before turning back normal. think about it npd and cluster b`s all resemble devil traits
 
Jesus is right you are smart and there is nothing wrong with you never was. He loves you fully. you could pray he binds her npd and her evil treatment.
 
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