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Micro Chipping

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Oh ye of little faith.

Jesus covered your doubt in Matthew 6:25-34 and Luke 12:22-31
Do you have faith that the Creator of the Universe and all the things in it will take care of your bodily needs (food and clothing) if you spend ALL your time building His Kingdom first?

Can any see the correlation between what Jesus was saying to His disciples in Luke 12:33, the large crowds that were following Him in Luke 14:33, and what the early church was doing in Acts 2:45 and Acts 4:34-37; that is:
"All the believers were together and had everything in common. Selling their possessions and goods, they shared with anyone who was in need."

and:

"There were no needy ones among them, because those who owned lands or houses would sell their property, bring the proceeds from the sales, and lay them at the apostles’ feet for distribution to anyone as he had need."

Why would they do that?



But Jesus says not to work for it. - Matthew 6:24 & Luke 16:13

Do you have eyes to see and ears to hear?


In peace and Love
Did you notice? Not one person has given a single chapter or paragraph, or line, or verse about not working for money? Verses about not worrying about money, about not idolizing money, but nothing about working for money. Matt 24 is talking about having your priorities focused and not on working for money...Money was used as an example not the main point....Somebody needs to realize that the Holy Spirit is the teacher, not the intellect.
 
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Its pretty clear. If you take it , thats it. No chance. Rev 14:11

However the only way that you'll be able to survive without is following what Jesus taught
Another way to live without the chip is to go live in a tropical rainforest. You will need a tent, a sleeping bag, a pillow, a few fruit trees, a dictionary, and a Bible.
 
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I thought I would put this clip here. It explains how we would not be able to buy or sell without the mark, which I do believe will be a chip.
 
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Scary wordly stuff @Bendito
Thanks for as sharing brother.
I believe it to be real too. And I'm not sure that that's the worst. People talk about hiding in caves, in the rain forests and such. Do they know that they have drones that have only one function...find humans with no chip. Robots to hunt and kill humans with no chip. These things do exist today. The tech that the average people know about is so far outdated it might as well be from medieval times.
 
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1 Timothy 6 is not Jesus rather it is paul

And indeed Jesus does say that you cannot work for money. Matt 6:24 and luke 16:13
So, what you're saying Brother is that Jesus would never say go do this (work) in order to get money for His purpose? Discuss it with others of your group, and you'll see what I'm saying, and I'm sure, you all will reason it differently. :smile:

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Take care on how you move in splitting hairs on Jesus & Paul when dealing with Scripture when the same documents are accorded to be inspired by God, for telling the truth even if its a lie that is being described. Understanding context is important Brother, though for you all it is less relevant once you've already made a determination on what a particular verse means to you and your group. There have been many who have followed what they believed to be true in what they have extracted from Scripture. Only to find that their faith had been misplaced in a doctrine they made the total focus of their lives of. Kind of like Saul. I don't accord you as being so, because until you place condemnation at the feet of those who do/believe differently in every "i" or "t" that you all have interpreted to be just so, which is the tendency of such. There is still hope.

Just keep one thing in mind when looking at the Gospels. Jesus was being specific to the Jewish Nation which had to reject Him first before the Gentiles could be grafted in. He was talking to a Jewish Nation for whom He came to, and who were required to do according to the Law and were not doing so. They were consumed with money, and not doing what they were called to do which was taking care of those in need. Their focus was not on God, but gain. Monetary gain if you will. (Matt 19:24)

My suggestion is that you pray for those who do not believe as you do, and yet are still of Jesus Christ.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
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Turn it all the other way as another option. It's very likely there will be at least a couple of EMP bombs set off over major WW3 players, and sweeping space for satellites. The shortest war ever. Anyone depending on anything electronic will be left wanting. No more satellites, no internet, no bit coin...... Trusting God to let me find a little place like Elijah stayed at in 1 Kings 17:6, birds bringing food until time for you to get up and go minister to a very confused world. Faith!
 
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Learn some of those old ways of living, which mushrooms are good to eat. In the Blue Mountains of Oregon I often found a mushroom that looked like a brain on the ground. They weigh a pound or two, are delicious sliced and cooked or eaten raw. There are tree fungi, all edible. Berries, herbs, spring water. Such knowledge can make a person quite valuable to a surviving group. There are lots of manuals to learn by, a great hobby to go hiking and living off the land a week. There's plenty of time to meditate on the goodness of God.
 
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Learn some of those old ways of living, which mushrooms are good to eat. In the Blue Mountains of Oregon I often found a mushroom that looked like a brain on the ground. They weigh a pound or two, are delicious sliced and cooked or eaten raw. There are tree fungi, all edible. Berries, herbs, spring water. Such knowledge can make a person quite valuable to a surviving group. There are lots of manuals to learn by, a great hobby to go hiking and living off the land a week. There's plenty of time to meditate on the goodness of God.
The ones that look like brains are morels? Those are GOOD ones.
 
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The ones that look like brains are morels? Those are GOOD ones.
We found much more morels and truffles than those white brainy football sized cauliflower mushrooms. We also dug up fatwood stumps. Those are the resin rich heartwood of conifer stumps and dead fallen trees. The heartwood is well preserved, and when splintered makes a great fire starter when campfire fuels are wet. The Umatilla reservation also valued them for carvings, and appreciated the turpentine aroma. They taught us a lot about what else to bring to them, especially the truffles which are still very valuable. By the time I developed a close relationship with the reservation I had to transfer for an upgrade in pay. Too bad. Those people were and probably still are familiar with what the land can provide towards independence of the outside world.

On Fridays we had all day to pack up and drive back to civilization, the ranger station at Dale, OR. Some guys slept in at the cabin, but 3 of us spent that morning collecting stuff to take to the tribal store near Pendleton, OR. Three gunny sacks worth of mushrooms and one of fatwood got us jerky and staples, plus dried fruit & veges for all 8 of us for the next week. In those days (1966-68) we earned about $1.40/hr, so didn't have a big food budget. Having no electricity or refrigeration in the mountain camps, our choices of food were limited to mostly canned or dry. We got pretty tired of supplementing with mushrooms, berries, and boiled panfish so we 'ate up' our paychecks.

It is very practical for any American to live off the land, especially if there's a place to plant some vegetable seeds. All the necessary nutrients are out there. The survivalist mode however is one of hunting/gathering.

My point is that were this continent were to be stripped of electrical circuity for probably decades, all of us, regardless of buying power, would be about equal in status as a remote village high up in Peru. Also, I doubt the antichrist would be able to locate everyone in America and S. America, not having his chip or mark. An EMP bomb would make drone surveillance impractical without a communications system until moving their protected satellites into orbit here. In the Middle East. probably yes, he could, since he would be in power enough to preserve the electronic arm of his empire there, maintaining a banking system. Our credit cards would be good for starting a fire.

If the economy is preserved here through microchips, those without would have to abandon homes, unable to pay mortgages, taxes, or even stay legally without paying the water/sewer bills according to the common requirement for homes in urban America. Christians would all have to decide, to bug out, or to stay and be punished, enslaved or killed, or become apostate. This tiny flesh life is not worth that last option. Esau traded his inheritance off for a pot of stew so don't you.

Leave an inheritance of provision for the unbelieving. Purchase and dry freeze a selection of vegetable seed for some cheap food insurance, putting a Bible in there along with your testimony. Survivors taking over your stuff likely will appreciate knowing what happened. Plan to keep some heirloom varieties so you can save seed from a harvest, and treated improved varieties for quicker and larger harvests. Remove from a freezer losing power, keep it dry. Non-gardeners should be able enough to put some seed in some ground between some trees in a forest, if for no other use than to attract animals to traps. There are experienced trappers in every state that would probably choose to bug out (leave home well prepared), who would make excellent team members. There are dozens of edible wild plant products in N. America, and at least 50 edible insects near you., plus any wildlife, even skunks and opossums.

For God to allow microchipping to be wrong for Christians, we would have to be told the sinful conditions of use, making their use a choice. If you have one implanted already, maybe an MRI would be available in an emergency for millions of people, a few seconds worth disabling all circuitry. Pacemaker bearing folks would die in there unless it is a recent model and the wires are OK for that. Most would die within a few minutes in the event of a non-nuclear EMP (electromagnetic pulse) bomb. Just having one would be forgiven if against your will, but using it to live by while ignoring God would put a person in spiritual jeopardy. If you think you couldn't resist, then prepare to survive without it, or prepare for possible worse situations.

For those of us trusting God to meet all our needs according to his riches in heaven, those happily supporting ministry now, there is no reason for alarm, though life would become quite difficult. That's why I began considering Elijah's bug-out in 1 Kings 17, but God's order until a widow obeyed God to host him. He was no more or less human than us, and wasn't a born again child of God. Consider a potential life similar to many missionaries who ended up in bad situations, having to exist under harsh conditions around the world. Believe the vine to yield, birds to bring, and the creek to flow, in the spirit of this commandment of Jesus:
Mark 11:21-26 (KJV)
21 And Peter calling to remembrance saith unto him, Master, behold, the fig tree which thou cursedst is withered away.
22 And Jesus answering saith unto them,
Have faith in God.
23 For verily I say unto you, That whosoever shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; and shall not doubt in his heart, but shall believe that those things which he saith shall come to pass; he shall have whatsoever he saith.
24 Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire, when ye pray, believe that ye receive them, and ye shall have them.
25 And when ye stand praying, forgive, if ye have ought against any: that your Father also which is in heaven may forgive you your trespasses.
26 But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses.


Some claim Jesus meant "mountain" to be a spiritual need. But the report has to do with a fig tree on a mountain. A real tree that should produce figs for travelers to eat. He spoke to it and it withered exactly like He commanded. That passage authorizes anyone willing to exercise the faith of God to do likewise. When situations come along that appear to be more than you choose to put up with, that scripture will become a lot more hopeful for you. Microchip or not, turn it over to God and He will instruct you how to curse the curse of it. Avoid doing nothing at all before, during, or after.

Practice before the storms. Lay out the bills you might not pay on time. Speak to them in prayer that God will help with that. Pray directly over a health report, believing God will intercede, allowing the healing Jesus provided long ago to manifest. Put a photo of a loved one on the table, pray over that with faith like folks did with a napkin sent from Paul. It's about ALL your needs met. NO FEAR.
 
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I almost want to say that nothing surprises me anymore, but indeed quite scary stuff. A brave new world indeed.

Ultimately it really strengthens my faith brother because it reminds me how much more I need Jesus in these days.

-WNL
Just as long as nobody takes it that this WILL be the mark...It's just that in my own mind it makes the most sense.
 
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