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Lazarus, not a parable.

Johann

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Luke 16:19–31, which sets forth the account of the rich man and Lazarus (and which,
strictly speaking, is not a parable), indicates a difference in Hades after the ascension of
Christ. Before this far-reaching event it seems clear that Hades was in two compartments, the
residence respectively of saved and unsaved spirits. “Paradise” and “Abraham’s bosom,”
both common Jewish terms of the day, were adopted by Christ in Luke 16:22 and 23:43 to
designate the condition of the righteous in the intermediate state. The blessed dead, being
with Abraham, were conscious and “comforted” (16:25).

The dying thief was on that very
day to be with Christ in “Paradise.” The unsaved were separated from the saved by a “great
chasm fixed” (16:26). The rich man, who is evidently still in Hades, is a representative case
and describes the unjudged condition in the intermediate state of the wicked. As to his spirit,
he was alive, fully conscious, in exercise of his mental faculties, and also tormented. It is thus
apparent that insofar as the unsaved dead are concerned, no change in their abode or state is
revealed in connection with the ascension of Christ.

At the sinners’ judgment of the great
white throne, Hades will surrender the wicked. They will be judged and cast into the lake of
fire (Rev. 20:13–14; see Lake of Fire). However, with regard to the state of the righteous and
the location of paradise, Christ’s ascension has evidently worked a drastic change. The
apostle Paul was “caught up to the third heaven … into Paradise” (2 Cor. 12:1–4). Paradise,
therefore, now denotes the immediate presence of God. When Christ “ascended on high” He
“led captive a host of captives” (Eph. 4:8–10). Since it is immediately added that He
“descended into the lower parts of the earth,” evidently the paradise division of hades, He set
free the saved spirit denizens of the underworld. Thus during the present church age, the
redeemed who die are “absent from the body … at home with the Lord.” The wicked, by
contrast, are in hades. Both are awaiting resurrection: one the resurrection to life and the
other the resurrection to condemnation. See Intermediate State; Gehenna; Lake of

Fire. M.F.U.
BIBLIOGRAPHY: A. T. Pierson, The Inevitable Alternative (n.d.); W. E. Clark, The Gates of
Hades (1927); J. J. Müller, When Christ Comes Again (1956), pp. 65–76; T. F. Glasson,
Greek Influence on Jewish Eschatology (1961); J. H. Gerstner, Jonathan Edwards on Heaven
and Hell (1980); W. G. T. Shedd, The Doctrine of Endless Punishment (1980).

Shalom
Johann
 
The Only reason The Lazarus and The rich man story is there. So you can Keep your Hiney out of there!

You do not have to be "A Rocket Scientist" or a "Oxford Scholar" or a Grad from "YALE or HARVARD" even "Princeton" to get that one. Even A "KINDERGARTEN" Grad, can nail that one! Billy and Mary and Sally Mae and CARL i bet they get it. Parable or Not. they get it.:sob: I have done CARRER days in Elementary schools and told stories to little kids in "kindergartens" On Career Days in little Elementary schools about making a career in "The Protestant Ministry" years and years ago, to those who of my brothers and sisters of the other race. And you would be surprise the serious questions they ask.:pensive: And the way I would answer their questions it would Light them up like a "BEACON"of Light flashing into sight. Oh yes, some of the little Children even the DEEP things of GOD would register in them before the institutional had gotten to them and contaminate the GOD 's simpleness that was in them.

And i always thought about them, the light, and my own children the light that was displayed in them until my wife and the others contaminate them behind my back! And when it came to light, i cried and I cried, I wailed and wailed, strong crying, and a since of GOD came to me, If they abort their own Child what do you think they will do to yours.:pensive: Broke me down to my knees. and at the same time i cannot hate, i got to love anyhow, Help me JESUS, Help me! I got to love my enemies who have corrupted my own children the Church and their mother. to worship idol GODs in the name of JESUS.

And i could hear his word:

New King James Version
Beloved, do not avenge yourselves, but rather give place to wrath; for it is written, “Vengeance is Mine, I will repay,” says the Lord.
Leviticus 19:18
Do not seek revenge or bear a grudge against any of your people, but love your neighbor as yourself. I am the LORD.
Deuteronomy 32:35
Vengeance is Mine; I will repay. In due time their foot will slip; for their day of disaster is near, and their doom is coming quickly."

Proverbs 20:22
Do not say, "I will avenge this evil!" Wait on the LORD, and He will save you.

Proverbs 24:29
Do not say, "I will do to him as he has done to me; I will repay the man according to his work."

Bless them which persecute you: bless, and curse not.
Recompense to no man evil for evil. Provide things honest in the sight of all men.
19Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord. 20Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head. 21Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.

All those words would come up out of me. right after another. morning, noontime in the night, and when the terror of thoughts would attack me in my dreams and wake me up The Word would attack the terror that attack ,me in the night, The Word in me! would come to the Battle. And I HAD to "TRUST HIM" with no faith at ALL! But I TRUSTED HIM< NO FAITH NO HOPE LEFT IN ME! BUT I TRUSTED HIM NO MATTER what happens. LIVE or DIE. I trust him. SWIM or Drown, I TRUST HIM.:pensive: "All Things worked together for the good...etc" "JUDGMENT DAY IS COMING" and what ever it be, let it be. I TRUST HIM>
We all need GRACE and MERCY!:pensive: Every one! You need JESUS to forgive, You can't do it alone, when they are nailing you to the CROSS! and got bitterness in their eyes! And calling everything but a Child of the LIVING GOD! And it is tearing your soul apart.:sob: talking about being "BROKEN" and you know "GOD"is right THERE. and he assures you, it will be wroth it all. "Trust me".:pensive:
 
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