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Jesus before he came to Earth

akilles

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Did he have a visible body?

Jesus claims that he has always existed, but he speaks about the father and the holy spirit and that he is the son.

Adam and Eve saw god, Jakob did wrestle with god, and there is a angel called "The Angel of the Lord", same angel who did forgive a mans sin (forget the name of the man).

The creation of humans (let US create humans in OUR imagine), who was the imagine? Must have been Jesus.

So did Jesus before he came to Earth had a heaven visible body? Then he did come to earth but also as a human, and after the death he rose again and returned to his spot in heaven?

Sorry for bad english, not my first language
 
Interesting question, not sure our salvation depends on it.

Before his human birth did Jesus have a flesh body?
You might get different opinions on that.

Some say the 4th being in Daniel 3:25; was Jesus.

At least for a while after death, Jesus was in a flesh body. In fact anyone who doesn't believe this has the spirit of the anti-christ.

1 Jn 4:2; By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God;

These verses are all after Jesus's resurrection.

John 20:27; Then He *said to Thomas, "Reach here with your finger, and see My hands; and reach here your hand and put it into My side; and do not be unbelieving, but believing."
Luke 24:39; "See My hands and My feet, that it is I Myself; touch Me and see, for a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see that I have."

Whether or not Jesus wears His "tent of flesh" (2 Cor 5:1-5; ) while He is in heaven, I'm not sure, but apparently He will put it back on when He comes back.
Acts 1:11 They also said, "Men of Galilee, why do you stand looking into the sky? This Jesus, who has been taken up from you into heaven, will come in just the same way as you have watched Him go into heaven."

Jesus may have a Spiritual body in heaven, but if so, it is still recognizable in some ways.
Rev 5:6; And I saw between the throne (with the four living creatures) and the elders a Lamb standing, as if slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God, sent out into all the earth.
 
So did Jesus before he came to Earth had a heaven visible body?

Ya, I think Jesus had a visible body before he came in the flesh. I don't really understand it, but the Old Testament sure has a number of Theophanies that only make sense to me as being Jesus.

Travis
 
Ya, I think Jesus had a visible body before he came in the flesh. I don't really understand it, but the Old Testament sure has a number of Theophanies that only make sense to me as being Jesus.

Travis
"The Word became flesh, and lived among us". There is nothing about body became flesh. It is all explained in the Bible. Jesus had no body in heaven. He was God "inside" God so to say. It is God's nature to have nature which we have no idea how it works, yet according to the scriptures, God speaks the Word out of Himself and the Word was doing anything God said to do. Jesus is the Word of God, words come out of someone, so to speak, they are inside of someone until they are spoken out to do what they were spoken out for.
We don't see words, yet they are making things happen.
 
I don't think in heaven that the limitations of the flesh would be needed. These are Earthly capsules that with our limited ability to recognize anything needs to have for our own sanity.
 
I think to look at physical image is a miss. I think in His image is spiritual other wise we would all look a like. In His image we are able to love, have compassion, reason, possess wisdom, endure long suffering, and possess all the other attributes of God who is infinite. Scripture says God is spirit He is one but in essence three. It continues to say all who worship Him must do it in the spirit this kinda removes a need for the physical.


peter
 
Genesis 1:27
So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

The Bible states that he created us in his image, but I take the word image as not being the physical body, but the spirit with all the internal mechanisms in which to operate in the world. Love, patience, humor, song, poetry, sculpture he gave to us to express ourselves. The first three, I truly believe are the lifesavers that most people use so often to cope with this insane world. For we few who seek outside of our own selves, we have found an abundance in God that no other has found without him. Those who reject him have only the tools and in their frustration at their ineffectiveness at dealing with everything have turned them against each other. How many times have these same people used humor against another and made fun of another at that person's expense? They are lost and as such they snap at each other likie rabid wolves and it is getting worse by the day.

He knew we would sin and be cast out from The Garden of Eden and he knew why these things would happen as, In my opinion he didn't want mindless slaves, but people who seeing how wicked our lusts have take us, will come to him and praise him of our own free minds.
 
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