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Jehovah's Witnesses

I always thought that 'cult' is derived from an organization being 'man-made'
As the J.W.'s have a founder, Russell, and have had a few before him, how are dead, so they do not have a risen Saviour.

They also have predicted the 'end of the world' several times' and the Bible clearly says,

1 Peter 2 v 1But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
Jeremiah 29 v 9For they prophesy falsely unto you in my name: I have not sent them, saith the LORD.

these scriptures speak of what they are all about.

Matthew24 v 42
Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come
Matthew 24 v 36
But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

I think this scripture puts paid to their preticting the day of the Lord's return.

They do not hold with the belief that Jesus is the Saviour, they say he's an Arch Angel Michael.
Oh they have lots of other ideas, too many to go into.

I have done much reading up on their organization, that's what they say they are, and if your not in their organization you won't get into Heaven, or Paradise as they prefer to name it.

It is a cult, when all is said and done, and they brain wash their members.
Their meetings are set in a 'Hyptosim' setting, a 3 cornered angle, tis what ive read, and the writings are accurate, from 'Watch the Watchtower' by Reachout Trust.

I often wonder what makes people who did belong to a normal church, go stray to join J.W's.

i do not hold with Denominations either, Church of God, built by Jesus Christ. One body.Amen
 
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the day we all unite in Jesus

All I know is, someday the worldly government & politicians will do their best to keep us all from serving, Worshiping & obeying GOD.

All those who truly want to Worship The Almighty GOD, we all need to come together. GOD wouldn't want it any other way.

We are all brothers & sisters!

And we are all fighting a Holy War! The question is who side do we choose to be on?

We, that are on the side of The Almighty GOD & HIS Son Jesus Christ;
Whether we believe that Jesus is The Almighty GOD `or` NOT.

Whether Non Devotional, Baptist, Catholic, Jehovah's Witness; no matter what Christian Religion one maybe from, we all need to put our little differences aside and Worship The Almighty GOD together as ONE!

This will happen some day, GOD will call on HIS children, and HE knows who we are.

HE knows who truly love HIM, whether, Non Devotional, Baptist, Catholic, Jehovah's Witness; no matter what Christian Religion one maybe from. For HE knows our hearts, souls & minds better than we know ourselves.
I agree with and I eagerly wait for the day when all will be united in Jesus, as He wished and prayed for.

Acts;10/34,35 speaks how impartial God is in His judgment.

God alone is capable of judging a man without erring, as He knows all and so let us wait for His judgment .

If one has accepted Jesus as His Lord and saviour and lives accordingly he will be taken care of by Him. No denomination, cult, sect ,church or whatever is not going to come in the way of his salvation. He is with His master and the Master is capable of supporting him.
 
A person I know who belonged to J.W.'s watching and listening to them was enough to set of warning bells for me.

Drinking to drunkeness, cursing, telling fowl jokes, now this was not in my company, but in my husbands and he's not saved, to me did not represent Jehovah's way of life.

But then she also believes their is no Salvation, would have no recognition with the cross, gave a very silly illustration between a base ball bat and the cross.

But they to are souls being decieved by their leaders, so their leaders will have much to answer for on Judgement Day, or if the Lord decides to deal with them prior.
 
There are good people & bad people in this world. Just because a person is caught doing bad things, doesn't mean that the whole Church or Congregation is bad.

These kind of people are every where, not just with Jehovah's Witnesses.

I know alot of Jehovah's Witnesses of whom I use to study with.

And none of them live their life drinking to drunkeness, cursing, telling fowl jokes.

Keep in mind there are hypocrites, and we will find some of them in every Christian & Jewish religion out there.
 
Misguided

I had Jehovah's Witnesses come in and speak to me, regarding the teachings of Christ. I can't have them in anymore because there is one main doctrine that I can not believe in and I believe that they are totally misguided on this point. That point is that Jesus is Michael the Archangel. I stood firm in Jesus when they told me this and I do not believe at all that Jesus is Michael.

Anyway, they were very earnest about God and very nice people but I simply could not agree with their teaching. In the name of Jesus Christ I pray that these witnesses convert themselves to a complete understanding of the Lord.

Another note too, is that the catholic church teaches that Michael is the prince of peace, when really it is Jesus Christ our Lord that is the Prince of Peace. False doctrine is everywhere and I really appreciate TalkJesus and it's efforts to stay non denominational. You do a great job Chad. Thank you and may God bless you.

Thanks:Pixie
 
I guess with not knowing any other J.W. I was having a one track view of the way they behaved.

I know there are people who do confess Christianity and do not live on the narrow path, suppose this is the same thing.

I would not tar each one with the same brush, so to speak, but I do know their belief system, and agree with Pixie on what she is saying, their belief system has really got it so very wrong, and away from the truth of the Bible.
This is why they follow the 'WatchTower' and do as the 'Organisation' tells them.

No Salvation, No blood, No Cross, what sort of beliefs are they?
A man made one, there's no life in it, it is doomed.
What a shame, for those who are really pulled in by wolves in sheeps clothing.
 
I had Jehovah's Witnesses come in and speak to me, regarding the teachings of Christ. I can't have them in anymore because there is one main doctrine that I can not believe in and I believe that they are totally misguided on this point. That point is that Jesus is Michael the Archangel. I stood firm in Jesus when they told me this and I do not believe at all that Jesus is Michael.

Anyway, they were very earnest about God and very nice people but I simply could not agree with their teaching. In the name of Jesus Christ I pray that these witnesses convert themselves to a complete understanding of the Lord.

Another note too, is that the catholic church teaches that Michael is the prince of peace, when really it is Jesus Christ our Lord that is the Prince of Peace. False doctrine is everywhere and I really appreciate TalkJesus and it's efforts to stay non denominational. You do a great job Chad. Thank you and may God bless you.

Thanks:Pixie

Thank you pixie,

I can understand where you're coming from. That too, makes me think twice.

But -none-the-less-, a lot of them are GOD fearing, and live their lives to the best of their knowledge of GOD. They really do try.

Other than like the hypocrites who more-or-less put on an act.
 
That's all well said Jonah2006bt
but they do have totally opposite beliefs from us.
To discredit Jesus is a very serious matter indeed.
It is no less than to dishonour Him.

They do not believe Jesus is God, therefore their beliefs are seriously
misled.

they maybe sincere but they are sincerely wrong.
 
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YES i totally agree with u Chad.an even i wanna tell all to be very very careful of these people.be Jesus Christ centered.
 
That's it, we DON'T have to try, Jesus did it all, 'It is Finished' was His cry.

Though Jesus did die for our sins - and us, being batised in the name of The Father, and of the Son, {Jesus Christ} and of the Holy Spirit, frees us from sin.

This does not meen that if we feel like telling a lie, or hurting someone's feelings or giving into lust makes it ok.

Sin is Sin.

And we must always try our best to steer away from sin, when ever it aproaches us.

Whether we be Christian or not - Satan will always be trying his hardest to make us sin.

And so therefore we all must be on our guard.
Be self-controlled and alert. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour. {1Peter 5:8} {Luke 21:36}

God did say we are to be Holy as HE is Holy {Leviticus 11:44, Leviticus 19:2, Leviticus 20:7 & 26, Matthew 5:48, 1 Peter 1:16}.

But do not worry, {Matthew 6:25} as long as you always try your best to do what is right in the eyes of our ALMIGHTY FATHER.

For if you fail, while trying - GOD will know you tried.

This is where Prayer comes in. Repenting & asking GOD to forgive us of our sin/sins we have done.

And always Thank HIM for Forgiving you. Thanking HIM for HIS Son, Jesus Christ who taught us well - and even died for us.

Don't ever give up on trying! "but he who stands firm to the end will be saved."
{Matthew 10:22, Matthew 24:13}



If ever there comes a time that you feel to week or out of control {for what ever reason it may be} always remember to ask GOD to pour out HIS Holy Spirit upon you, to guide you & stengthen you.

And always ask: "In The Name Of Jesus Christ, Your Savior . . . "{John 14:13-14, John 15:16, John 16:23-24,26}

For Jesus said all things are possible through GOD. {Matthew 19:26}

Be happy that you do not approve of Sin, for our Heavenly Father does not approve of sin neither.

And remember too, though it is a good thing to hate sin, we must never hate the person that sins. {Matthew 5:43-48}

Always remember we can be stronger than temptation, if we put our minds to it.

That is, if we truly love The Almighty GOD & Christ Jesus & know what is right/wrong & want to do it right in GOD'S eyes.

Bottom line is; If we really & truly want to, we can turn from our wrong, worldly & wicked ways.

Not over night, perhaps. But as long as we keep trying. Being determine.

And never ever giving up. Endure to the end! {Matthew 10:22}

For practice can make perfect, through GOD. And bad habits can die! As long as you remain firm with yourself & true to GOD.

Plus, self-discipline is not as hard to do - as one may think or say! {Matthew 19:26}

John 14:15-31
{Jesus Said}

15 "If you love me, you will obey what I command. 16 And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Counselor to be with you forever— 17 the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be[a] in you. 18 I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you. 19 Before long, the world will not see me anymore, but you will see me. Because I live, you also will live. 20 On that day you will realize that I am in my Father, and you are in me, and I am in you. 21 Whoever has my commands and obeys them, he is the one who loves me. He who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I too will love him and show myself to him."
22 Then Judas (not Judas Iscariot) said, "But, Lord, why do you intend to show yourself to us and not to the world?"

23 Jesus replied, "If anyone loves me, he will obey my teaching. My Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him. 24 He who does not love me will not obey my teaching. These words you hear are not my own; they belong to the Father who sent me.

25 "All this I have spoken while still with you. 26 But the Counselor, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you. 27 Peace I leave with you; my peace I give you. I do not give to you as the world gives. Do not let your hearts be troubled and do not be afraid.

28 "You heard me say, 'I am going away and I am coming back to you.' If you loved me, you would be glad that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I. 29 I have told you now before it happens, so that when it does happen you will believe. 30 I will not speak with you much longer, for the prince of this world is coming. He has no hold on me, 31 but the world must learn that I love the Father and that I do exactly what my Father has commanded me.
 
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Jonah
I was in no way trying to stipulate this at all.
What I was saying was that Jesus DID do it all on the cross, we can't add to that or take from it.

I know sin is sin, I was neither distracting from that.

J.W. believe they themselves must strive for perfection, try and try harder.
They are told to do the door to door visits, they don't have any choice in that matter.
Then they also can be dis-membered if they don't co-operate with the rules given them, and abandoned even in families for not complying.

I don't want to go into detail as this is neither the thread and it has all been discussed before on a thread.

The Cross is essential to our Christianity but what happened on that cross is the nesssesity for our Salvation.
The finished work of Christ.
 
jehova witness

thanx Chad for jw thread it is s eyeopener here by us they are very faithful knocking on doors every day and they never give up now we know what they believe greetings [prov30;5 every word of GODis flawless He is a shield to those who take refuge in Him]
 
This is a most effective witnessing tool:

"Letter to a Jehovah's Witness"
reprinted from the Moody Monthly magazine, March 1973
(Copyright Moody Bible Institute of Chicago)
written by Roy B. Zuck
Academic Dean at Dallas Theological Seminary, Dallas, Texas
Share this with him when he comes knocking.
____________________________________________
by ROY B. ZUCK
____________________________________________
Dear Jehovah's Witness:
That you very much for stopping by to distribute your literature. In our day of godless living, many people, no
doubt, slam their door. But I'm glad you came by. I am interested in spiritual things and in sharing Bible truths
with others.
May I share with you some important matters regarding the Bible? By having them in writing, you can consider
them carefully and, I trust, objectively.
Let me say, first, that there are several things about Jehovah's Witnesses that I admire. Your zeal for and
involvement in your organization are unequaled by most other religious groups. Also your interest in the Bible
is commendable. I assume that you, like most Jehovah's Witnesses, spend several hours every week studying
the Bible.
Also you and I have several things in common. I share your concern about religious apostasy in much of
Christendom, your teaching against evolution, and you belief in the coming Battle of Armageddon when God
will destroy the forces of Satan and then establish on earth His kingdom in which there will be universal peace
and righteousness.
Rather than discuss many different teachings, I would like to suggest that we consider what is perhaps the most
important issue, namely, the person of Christ.
You and I both believe that Jesus Christ was a perfect man, and that He is a person distinct from God the Father.
However, you teach that before His earthly life, Christ was a spirit creature, Michael the Archangel, who was
created by God and became the Messiah at His baptism. According to the well known Jehovah's Witness
publication Let God be True (p. 33), Jesus is a "mighty one, although not as almighty as Jehovah God is".
According to John 1:1 in your Bible, The New World Translation, Christ is "a god" but not "the God". In other
words, you teach that Jesus "was and is and always will be beneath Jehovah" and that "Christ and God are no
co-equal" (The Watch Tower, April 15, 1957).
Does the Bible substantiate these statements, or does it teach that Christ is God? This is an extremely important
question.
I would like to raise the following points for you to consider prayerfully.
1. Several Bible verses specifically affirm the deity of Christ. In Matthew 1:23, Christ is called
"Immanuel", which means "God with us". When Thomas touched the wounds of the risen Lord, he
exclaimed, "My Lord and my God" (John 20:28). There is no basis whatsoever for saying, as some
Jehovah Witnesses say, that Thomas was referring to Christ when he said "my Lord" but was referring
to God the Father when he said "my God". Instead Thomas called Christ both his Lord and his God and
Christ did not correct him!
Colossians 2:9 clearly confirms the deity of Christ, when it states that in Him "all the fullness of the
divine quality dwells bodily" (New World Translation).
"JESUS IS LORD"
Stephen called Jesus "Lord" (Acts 7:59, 60), and we are to confess Jesus as Lord (Rom. 10:9; 1 Cor. 12:3).
"Lord" in these verses is Kurios, which is the Greek word for Jehovah in the Greek version of the Old
Testament. Is it not rather evident from this that Christ the Lord (Kurios) is Jehovah God?
2. Several verses show that the Christ of the New Testament is the Jehovah of the Old Testament. For
example, Isaiah wrote about Jehovah in Isaiah 6:1-10, and John in John 12:31-42 says that Isaiah saw
Jesus' glory and spoke of Him.
In Exodus 34:14 it is clear that we are to worship no one but Jehovah. But in Hebrews 1:6 the angels
worship Christ. In Isaiah 44:6 Jehovah is called the first and the last, but in Revelation 22:13 Christ is
the first and the last. Since there cannot be two firsts and two lasts, is it not clear that Jehovah and Christ
must both be God? This reveals that Jehovah is used not only of God the Father, but also of God the
Son. Though they are distinct persons they are each called "Jehovah" because they each possess deity.
3. Attributes of Christ show that He is God. Jesus Christ knows all things (John 1:48; 2:25; 6:64; 16:30;
21:17). He is eternal (Mic. 5:2), all powerful (Matt. 28:18; Heb 1:3), sinless (John 8:46), and unchanging
(Heb 13:8). Since only God possesses these attributes, this indicates that Christ possesses deity.
4. Certain works of Christ show that He is God. Jesus Christ has the power to forgive sins (Mark 2:5-7;
Eph 1:7), control nature (Matt. 8:26), give eternal life (John 10:28; 17:2), and judge the world (John
5:22, 27). Since only God can do these things, does it not follow that Christ is God?
5. Christ received worship. Christ is worshipped by the angels (Heb. 1:6) and by man (Matt.14:33), and yet
only Jehovah is to be worshipped (Exod.34:14). Christ Himself said that worship is due to God alone
(Matt.4:10), and yet He accepted worship. If Christ in His pre-existent state were the archangel Michael,
how could He have received worship, since angels are not allowed to receive worship (Rev.19:10; 22:8,
9)? If Christ were not God, then worship of Him would be idolatrous.
What about John 1:1? You say, "Christ the Word is 'a god' according to John 1:1 in the Jehovah's Witnesses'
New World Translation." Your translators say the small "g" is required because the Greek word for God (theos)
is not preceded by a definite article, "the" (ho).
"WHAT THE GREEK REALLY SAYS"
You are correct in saying that in John 1:1 the Greek word for God is not preceded by a definite article. However
good Greek scholarship agrees that this does not mean the word should be translated "god" with a small "g".
The definite article is omitted because of a somewhat technical rule of Greek grammar. A definite predicate
nominative which precedes a verb does not have the Greek article. The order of the Greek words in the last
clause of John 1:1 is "God was the Word" (theos en ho logos). The subject of the sentence is "the Word", the
verb is "was", and the predicate nominative is "God". Usually the predicate nominative follows the verb, but in
this case it precedes it; and since it precedes the verb no article is necessary.
When a Greek writer wanted to stress the quality of a person or thing which was in the predicate nominative
case, he would put it before the verb rather than after it. This is what John did to stress the fact that the Word
(Christ) possesses the qualities of Godhood. This fundamental principle of Greek grammar thus supports the
deity of Christ and gives no support whatsoever to the translation, "The Word was a god". The intent of John
could be rendered in English, "The Word was fully God".
May I point out, too, that even your New World Translation does not always follow it's "no article - small 'g'"
rule. For example, in John 1:6, 12, 13, the word "God" does not have the article in the Greek, but it does have a
capital "G" in the New World Translation. It is correct to use the capital in those verses but it is inconsistent
with the New World Translation of John 1:1.
You might also be interested in noting that in John 13:3 the word "God" occurs twice, each time with a capital
"G". But in the Greek the first occurrence of the word does not have the definite article and the second
occurrence does. Since both obviously refer to the same person - God the Father - it would again be wrong to
assume that the alleged "no article - small 'g'" rule has any validity in Greek grammar.
Another observation is that without the article, theos signifies divine essence, while with the article theos
suggests divine personality (see Dana and Mantley, A Manual Grammar of the Greek New Testament, p. 139).
Also theos is a definite noun and therefore cannot have the indefinite article "a".
It is important to keep in mind that when John 1:1 states that "the Word was God", it does not mean Jesus is
God the Father, nor "Jesus is the Trinity". The Jehovah's Witnesses' booklet, "The Word", Who is He?
According to John (p.6), erroneously tries to suggest that this is what non-Jehovah's Witnesses mean by their
translation, "the Word was God". But this is not the case at all! As already shown, this clause stresses the divine
quality of the Word. John is telling us that in the beginning the Word existed, was with God the Father and
possesses full deity.
You should know to that there are verses clearly referring to Christ in which the word "God" does have the
definite article ("the"), thus showing that Jesus is "the God", that is, Jehovah. (Matthew 1:23, for example,
which states that Jesus is Immanuel, in the Greek is rendered "with us is the God". Jesus is therefore Jehovah
God.
You say that Christ is "a god" according to the New World Translation of John 1:1 - one who was created by
Jehovah. How could Christ be "a god" when in Isaiah 43.10 Jehovah say that there is no god before Him or after
Him? No god would ever be created by Jehovah because, as He stated, "Before me there was no god formed,
and after me there continued to be none" (New World Translation) .
John 1:1 states that the Word (Christ) was with God. And yet in Deuteronomy 32:39 Jehovah states, "There is
no god with Me". If Christ is not God but "a god", then Deuteronomy 32:39 is contradicted.
ISAIAH AND COLOSSIANS
I'm sure you are aware that Isaiah 9:6 calls Jesus Christ the "mighty God". No doubt you, like other Jehovah's
Witnesses, have a ready answer for this verse. You explain that Christ is "the mighty god" but not "the
almighty". You say that Christ is the mighty, never the almighty, and that Jehovah is the almighty God, never
the mighty. However, Jeremiah 32:18 shows that Jehovah is the mighty One. Therefore, since Christ is the
mighty God (Isa.9:6) and Jehovah is the mighty God (Jer.32:18), they are both God. They both possess full
deity. What about Colossians 1:15-17? Jehovah's Witnesses refer to this passage to support their teaching that
Christ was created by Jehovah (e.g., Let God Be True, p. 35). This is based primarily on the words, "the
firstborn of all creation", in verse 15.
However, if this verse were teaching that Jesus Christ is the first created being made by Jehovah, the word
"first-created" would have been used of Christ, not the word "firstborn". These are two different words in the
Greek, with two different meanings. "First-created" is protoktistos, and "firstborn" is prototokos. Colossians
1:15 does not use the word protoktistos, "first-created". Instead it uses prototokos. The latter word means an
heir, a begotten one, the first in rank. The teaching of Colossians 1:15, then, is that Christ is first in rank above
all creation; He is the heir of all things. He is prior to all creation and superior over it as the Lord.
Your New World Translation adds the word "other" four times in Colossians 1:15-17, so that the passage states
that Christ created "all other things", that is, everything except Himself. However, there is no basis for adding
the word "other". It does not occur in the Greek manuscripts. The translators of the New World Translation
admit this by putting the word "other" in brackets. Obviously this is done in order to comply with the
assumption that firstborn means first-created. But, as we've seen, this is not the meaning of firstborn, and
therefore it is wrong to add the word "other". There is no verse in the entire Bible that states that Christ was
created by Jehovah!
Some might raise a question about Revelation 3:14. This passage wrongly translated in the New World
Translation, "the beginning of the creation of God" should be rendered "the source (or origin) of God's
creation". The Greek word for source or origin is arche. This is consistent with the statements in Colossians
1:16 and John 1:3 that all things were made by or had their origin or source in Jesus Christ. Since all things
were made by Christ (John 1:1) and all things were made by Jehovah (Heb.3:4), both persons possessing this
omnipotent creative power are God with full deity.
PHILLIPIANS
What about Phillipians 2:6? The New World Translation suggests that Christ was not equal with God and did
not even want to be: "Although he was existing in God's form, gave no consideration to a seizure, namely, that
he should be equal with God". This is a poor translation of the Greek. The Phillips Version gives a much better
rendering of the Greek: "He, who had always been God by nature, did not cling to His prerogatives as God's
equal". The New American Standard Version renders it: "Who, although He existed in the form of God, did not
consider equality with God a thing to be grasped". The Living Bible puts the meaning in these words: "Who,
though He was God, did not demand and cling to His rights as God".
It is important to remember that Phillipians 2:5-8 is discussing the incarnation of Christ, His act of leaving
heaven's glory and coming to the earth. By stating that He did not cling to His prerogatives and rights as God,
Phillipians 2.5 is saying that He willingly came to the earth. Also, it is important not to overlook the first part of
the verse: "He existed in the form of God". The word "form" means essential attributes. Therefore since Christ
was in the form of God, that is, possessing the attributes of deity, it is wrong to suggest that He did not want to
be equal with God. He already was - and is - God! The view that His being equal with God was something that
He had to grasp for is excluded by the fact that He already existed in the form of God.
What about John 10:30? I assume that you, like other Jehovah's Witnesses, believe that this verse, "I and the
Father are one", means that Christ was one with God the Father in purpose and not in nature and essence.
However, if that were all Christ was saying, why did the Jews want to stone Him? They themselves thought His
purpose was the same as God's. Verse 33 of John 10 explains that they wanted to stone Him because of
blasphemy, because He claimed to be God! The New World Translation uses the words "a god", but as
explained earlier, theos is a definite noun and without the article denotes divine essence. As John 5:18 reveals,
the fact that Jesus called God His Father meant to the Jews that He was making Himself "equal with God".
I have spent much time discussing the deity of Christ because this is the central point of the Scriptures. God
Himself came to save men from their sins. The Bible teaches we are to turn to Christ as Jehovah God for
salvation. Pardon from sin comes by (1) recognizing that you are a sinner in need of God's grace (Rom.3:10, 23;
Jer.17:9; Eccles.7:20; Eph.2:1, 2; 1 John 1:8); (2) realizing that Jesus Christ came to earth for the explicit
purpose of dying as a substitute for you (Isa.53:6; 1 Pet.2:24; 3:18), bearing the penalty of your sins Himself;
and (3) receiving Jesus Christ into your heart as your Saviour (Acts 16:30, 31; John 1:12; 3:16, 36; 5:24; 6:47;
Acts 4:12; Rom.10:13).
Christ came to do more than just atone for Adam's sin and to restore "perfect human life with it's rights and
earthly prospects" (Let God Be True, p. 96). He came to forgive sins (Eph.1:7), to give eternal life (John 10:28;
17:2), to justify us (declare us righteous) by His grace (Rom.3:24), to die for our sins (1 Pet.2:24; 3:18;
Rom.5:6, 8), to reconcile us to Himself (remove the enmity between man and God) (Rom.5:10), to redeem
(ransom or purchase) us from the penalty and power of sin (Gal.4:4, 5; Eph 1:7), and to make us Children of
God (John 1:12).
Forgiveness of sins does not come by trying to pass the test Adam failed or to maintain "integrity" (as the
August 15, 1956 issue of the Watch Tower suggests). By attempting to keep integrity or by works of the law,
"no flesh will be declared righteous before Him" (Rom.3:20, New World Translation).
How then can a sinful man appear righteous in the sight of God? The Scriptures say it "is as a free gift that they
are being declared righteous by his undeserved kindness through the release of the ransom paid by Jesus Christ.
God set him forth as an offering for propitiation through faith in his blood" (Rom.3:24-25, New World
Translation). On the basis of Christ's atonement we can be pardoned from all our sin and declared righteous in
Christ. "By means of him (Christ) we have the release by ransom through the blood of that one, yes, the
forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of undeserved kindness" (Eph.1:7, New World
Translation).
You can have forgiveness of sins and be perfectly righteous in God's sight by accepting Christ's atonement for
you, by receiving Him as your personal Saviour. Though you are a sinner who has fallen short of God's glory
(Rom.3:23), you can be pardoned of your sins and declared righteous in Christ by placing your faith (trust) in
Him. Millions who have done this through the centuries have experienced a miraculous change of heart and life
as He promised. Will you turn to Him now, asking Him to forgive you of your sins and be your Saviour?
 
Here's a wee word given by a Preacher one time, he said about J.W.'s calling to his door also, all he has to say to them is, 'Isn't Jesus a wonderful Saviour He died to save me from my sins'
He said they'll nod in agreement with you, but you'll find they don't come back, well the same one's anyway.
I'm waiting to try it, none have come since.

They are very thin on the ground were I live I think, though one of my son's is married to one, not to my liking, but then we can't choose who they want to marry.

Though in saying that they have split up today for the upteenth time, and supposedly the divorce papers are going to be signed this time, we'll see.
 
Here's a wee word given by a Preacher one time, he said about J.W.'s calling to his door also, all he has to say to them is, 'Isn't Jesus a wonderful Saviour He died to save me from my sins'
He said they'll nod in agreement with you, but you'll find they don't come back, well the same one's anyway.
I'm waiting to try it, none have come since.

Funny you mentioned that, because he's wrong, if anything, they would love to come back & talk more about this wonderful savior, our Lord Jesus Christ.

Now on the other hand JWs want to be the ones to conduct the Bible Study and if this Preacher gave them the impression that he was going to conduct the Study in stead of them, that may be the reason why they didn't return.

Your Sister in Christ Jesus, *genesis
 
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hi, in regards to you re question on j.w. they are a false religion. stated by a man who did not believe in sound Bible doctrine. no hell doctrine. Christ only Gods son and not indeed God himself. not to confuse you. but , i don't have enough space to reveal all about this colts history. you re friends may be very nice, however they have been deceived by the devils lies. yes sometimes people use the Bible in the wrong way. and make it say what it dose not. it seems their main interest is to get you to become a witness instead of being a friend. as much as you would hate to end a relationship with someone. it might pay to be honest tell them how you feel and, if they will not hear then end the friendship. God dose not want us to invite this doctrine into our homes. it is not of God.
 
JWs don't listen to the truth.

The J.W followers use a distorted translation of the Bible, it's called
the New World Translation. It is a sly and deceptive translation
allowing them to displace Jesus Christ from his throne which He shares with His father. Unless you are willing to do some serious
Bible study on the diety of Christ have nothing to do with them.
I spent months talking to the JWs and was unable to make any
progress. But I must admit that I learned how to prove the diety of Christ from the scriptures. Alas they never knock on my door anymore. Incidently, a very good friend of mine became a Christian
himself trying to argue with them over the diety of Christ. I don't
think they would have been impressed with that. They prey upon
people who don't read and know thier Bibles.
 
Knocking on doors is not only to get people to listen, but to sell the magazines. Now if you think about it, 10 cents a mag when I was selling them, probably higher now cause that was over 30 years ago .... if there are only 1 million buyers thats an easy $100,000 ... and you KNOW there are many many more than 1 million every year! The Society tracks your sales (going door to door is called being "Out in Service") and if you are not selling enough you are made to feel guilty about it. Do you know how much of Brooklyn is owned by the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society??

Recently I read an article from The Berean Call stating the Society should not be called a cult but is really a false religion, same as mormonism and others.
 
In response to Boanarges post of 02 24 11 ..
Thank you brother!
I have copied and printed this letter to JWs which I will present if ever they come to my door again. However, I think I may have been "marked" and they will not return.
 
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