Islam Does Teach That Jesus is The Son of God

[LifeinJesus]

Muslims believe that Jesus was born miraculously, without any male intervention. They believe that He is the messiah who performed miracles but they don't believe He is God or the son of God.

So they believe that Jesus was born miraculously from God. Yet they don't believe He is the son!

That's actually the Koran right there calling Jesus the son of God. Everything else in the Koran where Jesus is saying He is not the son of God is fake.

Islam is a figment of Christianity, all they need to do is admit that Christ is indeed the son of God and accept Christianity instead of Islam. I've also just proven that the Koran itself contradicted itself by agreeing with The Bible.

However another contradiction from Islam is how they believe Jesus never died but ascended to Heaven (making Him greater than Mohammed who is still waiting to be judged, if my knowledge serves me correct, he himself stated that he did not know where he was going, this means that Muslims should accept Jesus is the greater for he went to God's side.) but at the same time believe that he is the messiah. Jesus (the messiah) HAD to die to fulfil the prophecy of Isaiah. This means that if you're a Muslim, then Jesus can't be the messiah for he never died as the scripture states. Ignoring that, then as I've proven already, the Koran does call Jesus the son of God.

You see, Christ is the only path to God and even Islam agrees with that!

 

[rizen1]

I always tell people educate yourself on people's beliefs. When you find common ground use it as a foundation in sharing the gospel. So many Christians do not know Jesus is in the Quran.
Surah 3: 46-48.

This does not mean we are share the same beliefs, it only means we have a conversation starter.

 

[LifeinJesus]

Here a Muslim claims Jesus is the messiah and did INDEED die for us:



They don't accept the divinity of Christ but just by accepting that Christ died for us and saved us - means that you have salvation for you have accepted Christ into your heart.

 

[rizen1]

No links (web addresses of any kind) unless you meet 2 requirements
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If Chad's permission was given for those links, they can be re-added. I'm sorry we have to be strict on all link posting despite it's content. Just as there is Jews for Jesus, there may exist muslims for Jesus.

Jesus is the son of Mary and only a messenger of God to them.

Lets be careful in this thread. If this is going to be a bible study some bible verses or some comparative reading should be added.
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[rizen1]

Let me first say I grew up with muslim neighbors and went to school with muslims. I believe Muslims, Jews and Christian do in some way share the same God. Some where they all got lost in translation, man heart is wicked with evil and selfish agendas. Each group have more in common which includes the hatred and ignorance against the other. The root to me is the same, the fruits ( doctrines ) are not.

Lets do some comparative.

Luke 1:26-38

The Birth of Jesus Foretold

26 In the sixth month, God sent the angel Gabriel to Nazareth, a town in Galilee,27 to a virgin pledged to be married to a man named Joseph, a descendant of David. The virgin’s name was Mary.28The angel went to her and said, "Greetings, you who are highly favored! The Lord is with you."

29 Mary was greatly troubled at his words and wondered what kind of greeting this might be.30 But the angel said to her, "Do not be afraid, Mary, you have found favor with God.31 You will be with child and give birth to a son, and you are to give him the name Jesus.32 He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High. The Lord God will give him the throne of his father David,33 and he will reign over the house of Jacob forever; his kingdom will never end."

34 "How will this be," Mary asked the angel, "since I am a virgin?"

35 The angel answered, "The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God.36 Even Elizabeth your relative is going to have a child in her old age, and she who was said to be barren is in her sixth month.37 For nothing is impossible with God."

38 "I am the Lord's servant," Mary answered. "May it be to me as you have said." Then the angel left her.

(Remember) when the angels said, “O Mary, God gives you good news of a word from Him (God), whose name is the Messiah Jesus, son of Mary, revered in this world and the Hereafter, and one of those brought near (to God). He will speak to the people from his cradle and as a man, and he is of the righteous.” She said, “My Lord, how can I have a child when no mortal has touched me?” He said, “So (it will be). God creates what He wills. If He decrees a thing, He says to it only, ‘Be!’ and it is.” (Quran, 3:45-47)

Jesus Conception

5 The angel answered, "The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God.36 Even Elizabeth your relative is going to have a child in her old age, and she who was said to be barren is in her sixth month.37 For nothing is impossible with God." luke 1: 26:35

The case of Jesus with God is like the case of Adam. He created him from dust, and then He said to him, “Be!” and he came into being. (Quran, 3:59)

The bible's account is more spiritually while the Quran's account is more God in the garden calling him to be.

Jesus's Death and Resurrection

Matthew 27:45-56

45 Now from the sixth hour there was darkness over all the land until the ninth hour. 46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, "Eli, Eli, la'ma sabach-tha'ni?" that is, "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" 47 And some of the bystanders hearing it said, "This man is calling Eli'jah." 48 And one of them at once ran and took a sponge, filled it with vinegar, and put it on a reed, and gave it to him to drink. 49 But the others said, "Wait, let us see whether Eli'jah will come to save him." 50 And Jesus cried again with a loud voice and yielded up his spirit. 51 And behold, the curtain of the temple was torn in two, from top to bottom; and the earth shook, and the rocks were split; 52 the tombs also were opened, and many bodies of the saints who had fallen asleep were raised, 53 and coming out of the tombs after his resurrection they went into the holy city and appeared to many. 54 When the centurion and those who were with him, keeping watch over Jesus, saw the earthquake and what took place, they were filled with awe, and said, "Truly this was the Son of God!" 55 There were also many women there, looking on from afar, who had followed Jesus from Galilee, ministering to him; 56 among whom were Mary Mag'dalene, and Mary the mother of James and Joseph, and the mother of the sons of Zeb'edee..

Matthew 28:1-8

1 Now after the sabbath, toward the dawn of the first day of the week, Mary Mag'dalene and the other Mary went to see the sepulchre. 2 And behold, there was a great earthquake; for an angel of the Lord descended from heaven and came and rolled back the stone, and sat upon it. 3 His appearance was like lightning, and his raiment white as snow. 4 And for fear of him the guards trembled and became like dead men. 5 But the angel said to the women, "Do not be afraid; for I know that you seek Jesus who was crucified. 6 He is not here; for he has risen, as he said. Come, see the place where he lay. 7 Then go quickly and tell his disciples that he has risen from the dead, and behold, he is going before you to Galilee; there you will see him. Lo, I have told you." 8 So they departed quickly from the tomb with fear and great joy, and ran to tell his disciples.

...They said, “We killed the Messiah Jesus, son of Mary, the messenger of God.” They did not kill him, nor did they crucify him, but the likeness of him was put on another man (and they killed that man)... (Quran, 4:157)

 

[KingdomSeeker]

Hello.


Im No Scholar, I also am not going to bother with posts.


Muslims(slightly varrying on what type of Muslim) Beleive In Jesus, or at least that he was A messiah(ONE of the messiahs...They belive David was a messiah( means annointed) as well, so do the Jews...)

They Do Not beleive that Jesus is the Son of God, MAINLY Becasue they beleive the Angel Gabriel to be the Holy Spirit. They Beleive Jesus is and WAS a Miracle, but not that he was The Son of God, nor that he was God.

 

[hischildaswell]

<TABLE id=table_bible cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR id=Jer_10_2_755002><TD class=vRefa>Jer 10:2</TD><TD class=vDispa>Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen

</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

<TABLE id=table_bible cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR id=2Cr_6_15_1084015><TD class=vRefb>2Cr 6:15</TD><TD class=vDispb>And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Speak the truth, we do not need to know the lie, JUST the truth, we "True Christians" have no common ground with the muslims. Another Jesus, 2Cr 11:4, is not the same, but different. Take your head out of the social gospel and get into a real church.

RCC jesus= another jesus
JW jesus= another jesus
lds/mormon jesus= another jesus
amish jesus=another jesus
......jesus apart from the Truth in the Word of GOD= another jesus

 

[LifeinJesus]

Hello.


Im No Scholar, I also am not going to bother with posts.


Muslims(slightly varrying on what type of Muslim) Beleive In Jesus, or at least that he was A messiah(ONE of the messiahs...They belive David was a messiah( means annointed) as well, so do the Jews...)

They Do Not beleive that Jesus is the Son of God, MAINLY Becasue they beleive the Angel Gabriel to be the Holy Spirit. They Beleive Jesus is and WAS a Miracle, but not that he was The Son of God, nor that he was God.

Them believing or not is not what this topic was about. I was clearly showing how Islam teaches that Christ is the son of God but not in a spiritual way.

It's just that none of the Muslims can accept this because then it proves that the Koran is flawed and if they accept that, then they accept that it can't be from God.

Adam is the son of God according to Luke because God breathed life into him with his essence.

We are all children of God in some way since our souls are from Him but Jesus was the first creation and the second highest in Heaven (with God obviously being the first).

 

[rizen1]

<TABLE id=table_bible cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR id=Jer_10_2_755002><TD class=vRefa>Jer 10:2</TD><TD class=vDispa>Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen

</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

<TABLE id=table_bible cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR id=2Cr_6_15_1084015><TD class=vRefb>2Cr 6:15</TD><TD class=vDispb>And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Speak the truth, we do not need to know the lie, JUST the truth, we "True Christians" have no common ground with the muslims. Another Jesus, 2Cr 11:4, is not the same, but different. Take your head out of the social gospel and get into a real church.

RCC jesus= another jesus
JW jesus= another jesus
lds/mormon jesus= another jesus
amish jesus=another jesus
......jesus apart from the Truth in the Word of GOD= another jesus

Who are these " True Christians, '' and what is a social gospel ?

The churches today speak on hate and push fear, anything different, of another color can't be pure or contain the truth. Are you seriously saying RCC has another Jesus ?

That's why I direct new believers to God first and not a building, I mean church. All these denominations fighting against each other, know nothing of each other's doctrines, can only repeat what was told to them, lack love and quick to claim the truth.

If a gay person says he believes in Jesus, does this mean he/she is talking about another Jesus ?

We need to be careful when we stereotype people cause we will lose the chance to witness to them. Our Pride must never come in the way of someone's salvation. If you meet a muslim who believes in Jesus and that his birth was a miracle look at it as an opportunity for discussion not for a debate.

I don't know what a " true christian " is or who leads this social gospel ( I thought being social was part of sharing the gospel, I know some churches prefer the non social route with signs saying " God hate f*gs" )

We seem to forget it was the same God who created the muslims, roman catholics, jehovah witness and amish. That these are the same people Jesus gave his life for. Just because we have the gift of salvation in our hands does not mean, that gift is not accessible to them or not deserving to them. When we start seeing people as humans our great commission would be more effective. We were all lost before we were found. The church is not a club, we're suppose to go out into the world, not sit in congregations discriminating and criticizing the world. For a world that is lost we seem to expect a lot from them, yet accept low expectations of ourselves.

Having something in common with people that are different should not be offensive but a common ground for discussion. If anything stated is a lie for education or enlightenment the truth should be stated please. Therefore this thread become a learning ground based on facts, not hearsay or emotions.
It's not anyone's intention to mislead, so again corrections are welcome. We are human and mistakes, errors are not far fetch. The most important rule of online etiquette is " Remember behind the computer is a human "

 

[capriham]

Who are these " True Christians, '' and what is a social gospel ?

The churches today speak on hate and push fear, anything different, of another color can't be pure or contain the truth. Are you seriously saying RCC has another Jesus ?

That's why I direct new believers to God first and not a building, I mean church. All these denominations fighting against each other, know nothing of each other's doctrines, can only repeat what was told to them, lack love and quick to claim the truth.

If a gay person says he believes in Jesus, does this mean he/she is talking about another Jesus ?

We need to be careful when we stereotype people cause we will lose the chance to witness to them. Our Pride must never come in the way of someone's salvation. If you meet a muslim who believes in Jesus and that his birth was a miracle look at it as an opportunity for discussion not for a debate.

I don't know what a " true christian " is or who leads this social gospel ( I thought being social was part of sharing the gospel, I know some churches prefer the non social route with signs saying " God hate f*gs" )

We seem to forget it was the same God who created the muslims, roman catholics, jehovah witness and amish. That these are the same people Jesus gave his life for. Just because we have the gift of salvation in our hands does not mean, that gift is not accessible to them or not deserving to them. When we start seeing people as humans our great commission would be more effective. We were all lost before we were found. The church is not a club, we're suppose to go out into the world, not sit in congregations discriminating and criticizing the world. For a world that is lost we seem to expect a lot from them, yet accept low expectations of ourselves.

Having something in common with people that are different should not be offensive but a common ground for discussion. If anything stated is a lie for education or enlightenment the truth should be stated please. Therefore this thread become a learning ground based on facts, not hearsay or emotions.
It's not anyone's intention to mislead, so again corrections are welcome. We are human and mistakes, errors are not far fetch. The most important rule of online etiquette is " Remember behind the computer is a human "

All I can say is Praise the Lord for your words rizen1!!