Is the social security number the mark of the beast???

[Seeker Of Jesus]

I came across this article (several actually) stating that the social security number system in place in the US can very well be the mark of the beast. and i'm interested to read what you feel about this.

I'll quote one of the articles:

IS YOUR SOCIAL SECURITY CARD THE MARK OF THE BEAST?



Bible predictions have now become true.

There is verifiable evidence that all these Bible predictions have become true:

A second beast that came up out of the earth, while exercising the authority of the scarlet first beast who raised up out of the sea, upon whose heads is the name of blasphemy, has deceived you into worshiping (with a perjury oath) a substitute god to get a graven Mark, issued by a final world government, symbolically in your right hand and forehead, that you must use as a banking authorization number.

This seems so straightforward to me, that I don't dare dismiss the evidence. Could the other elements of this prophecy also be true? Let's take a closer look.


FOREWORD

This essay is published for Bible believers who suspect that we are in the end times, and would like more proof. If you are not a Bible believer, skip to the court decisions in Appendix G to prove for yourself that without a Social Security Number you would have kept your right to earn un-taxable wages.
It is my Christian duty to warn those who have an ear to hear. Do not be lulled into waiting for a one-man world leader to issue an implant in your right hand. The final moments of world history are unfolding before us.
A Social Security Card has all the attributes of the Mark. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof, so I will present ample proof for you to consider. I'm confident that these verifiable proofs will withstand scrutiny. If you don't want to believe the evidence, then prove it wrong. Don't simply deny. A denial disproves nothing. Your Bible instructs you to prove all things and hold fast to that which is good. Don't dismiss my message until you've read my Chapter "Answers to Skeptics."
Satan has a counterfeit authority to obey. It is a very close imitation to legitimate authority. Obedience to counterfeit authority is mutiny against lawful authority.
Disclaimer: I have not confirmed some of the cited references, especially those of early history. Please don't use anything until you are satisfied that the references do indeed confirm what I am passing along to you. I will correct any errors. Another disclaimer: If you want legal advice, consult your lawgiver.
I don't claim to have any divine interpretation of Scriptures. I merely rely upon history to show that prophecy finally has come true.
This is not a Manual on how to survive without a Mark. Those who refuse the Mark will not be able to sell their labor, buy housing or conduct business. But, you already knew this. You just didn't expect it so soon. You will end up jobless, homeless and without the means to survive. I don't want you to risk death avoiding the mark until you are well prepared for the consequences of your stand. On the other hand, I cannot advise you to compromise with evil just to save your life. While He was speaking of the end times, Christ Himself said: "Whosoever shall seek to save his life shall lose it;" Luke 17:33. And, "the cowardly shall have their place in the Lake of Fire." Revelation 21:8. This is the second death. Narrow is the way which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
For those of you who decide to take a stand, may the Holy Spirit comfort you in your persecution.

Thoughts?

 

[jari]

we dont need social secuity number for buying in here. and even if we did whats the big deal?
the beast is worshipped and everyone who doesnt take its mark willl be killed.
so no its not social security number. most countries dont have modern systems and what not. like countries in africa.

i suggest anyone who studies this to carefully read the chapter(s) (Rev 13) about beast in book of revelations.

 

[David777]

Hello Seeker Of Jesus.

Revelation 13:16-18

And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond,
to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the MARK,
or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number
of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is six hundred
three score and six.

Please do not panic, the scriptures are clear regarding the "mark".

It is a personal identification mark that allows an adherent to
buy or sell. The social security number is not a personal mark,
it is an unique identification number associated with you.

Also, the mark is the name of the beast or the number of
the beast. This is definitely not an SS number.

When the Government or some global organization wants to place the mark on or
within the hand or forehead then run for the hills.

Or rejoice for our Lord's return is immanent.

 

[eddieb]

you have to accept the mark. or deny it. you never had the option with the social security number.

go read chapter 13 of revelations. it says its the number of a man. in hebrew the number system is the same as the alphabet. a is one and two is b and so on. so his number is probably his name.

another contrast is everyone has a different number with social security. the mark of the beast is one number for everyone.

 

[jari]

it's also worshipped (the beast):


(Rev 13:4) And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?

peope will see beast as unbeatable.

but then, the beast will receive deadly wound that heals ...


(Rev 13:12) And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.

 

[farout]

This is a well debated topic. I suggest it is not the Sccial Security number. It may be something as simple as the way you live, or who you are recorded as having voted for.

No one knows for sure. Jesus says in Matthew 34 we are yo be ready, and when He returns we shall go with Him.

Best to devote our time in sharing the Gospel with those who have not surrendered to Jesuss. Pray for wisdom, and pray we are found faithful! OH Jesus come soon!

 

[jari]

This is a well debated topic. I suggest it is not the Sccial Security number. It may be something as simple as the way you live, or who you are recorded as having voted for.

No one knows for sure. Jesus says in we are yo be ready, and when He returns we shall go with Him.

Best to devote our time in sharing the Gospel with those who have not surrendered to Jesuss. Pray for wisdom, and pray we are found faithful! OH Jesus come soon!

i'm sure it will be known. just if you try to find the beast today its difficult. because its not in here today.

no offence but you should really read rev 13 before stating comments like this again. it says a lot things about the beast there.
let's keep those things in mind ok?
it says everyone who doesn't take it's mark will be killed.
so that must mean something right?

God bless you

 

[B-A-C]

The Bible makes it pretty clear, it is something that has to be on your right hand or forehead.
A card doesn't really qualify. It's not something that can happen by accident, it's not something you won't be aware of. It will be a conscious decision to accept it.

Rev 13:16 And he causes all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free men and the slaves, to be given a mark on their right hand or on their forehead,
Rev 14:9 Then another angel, a third one, followed them, saying with a loud voice, "If anyone worships the beast and his image, and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand,
Rev 20:4 Then I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was given to them. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony of Jesus and because of the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received the mark on their forehead and on their hand; and they came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.

 

[Seeker Of Jesus]

How many people here think that the mark is an RFID chip? i've read alot of articles and seen tons of videos online concerning this and the RFID chip has all the characteristic's of the mark of the beast. Of course if it is it won't be introduced as such, they will paint it in a very positive light, i won't be surprised to see celebrities (since they're so highly worshipped and have a lot of influence over people) endorsing this to convince and make the uninformed and unsaved masses to take the mark, because the technology will be so "cool". A cashless society where robbery's and crime will drop to a minimum (at least crimes that are fueled by money), the ability to buy anything with just a swipe of a hand, if you google NFC you'll see this technology is being put in smart phones, i believe they are testing it out with smart phones first and then eventually when these RFID chips are introduced they will incorporate the NFC "Near field communication" technology into it, plus no longer having to carry id's and such because all that info will be placed in the chip. I don't about you but this tech seems very cool, great, and convenient and so many will see it like this and take it. Do any of you agree? or do you think that the mark will be something else entirely.

 

[lawrenceb]

the mark of the beast

Most Christians are waiting for the day a computer chip is implanted on their forehead or hand, and at that time they will make a decision to accept it or reject it. What they find unimaginable is the idea that they have already accepted the mark of the beast. Yet scripture could not be more clear on this subject.

Revelation 13:16-17, “And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.” ​

First note that there is not just a MARK, but also a NAME and a NUMBER. What does the State always need from you? The artificial PERSON NAME and birth date or other NUMBER, such as a Social Security Number. You have to love the honesty of the Canadians who call it a Social Insurance Number, or SIN! You cannot do business with the State without these, nor can you open a bank account or access many other conveniences of modern life without them. Each year it becomes more challenging to buy and sell without the NAME or NUMBER of the beast.

But the MARK is the real kicker, and it has been sitting there in scripture all along.

Exodus 13:9, “And it shall be for a sign unto thee upon thine hand, and for a memorial between thine eyes, that God's law may be in thy mouth.” ​

This is repeated in one of the most famous passages of the Old Testament:

Deuteronomy 6:4-9, "Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might. And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart: And thou shalt teach them diligently unto thy children, and shalt talk of them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, and when thou liest down, and when thou risest up. And thou shalt bind them for a sign upon thine hand, and they shall be as frontlets between thine eyes. And thou shalt write them upon the posts of thy house, and on thy gates." ​

What is supposed to already be on our hand and on our forehead (between thine eyes)? God's Law! If it is there, how could the beast's counterfeit MARK take its place? Of course the modern church has neglected God's Law in the name of being “not under law but under grace.” In its place we have accepted the beast's statute law, which is his MARK. Because people no longer think of Law as something “fixed” or unchanging, the church misses the blessing of having an unchanging Law to follow and accepts in its place the burden of ever-changing statutes.

Grace is taught as being the opposite of Law, when the true biblical opposite is “iniquity” or lawlessness. How many Christians, in the name of living “under grace,” are in fact living “in iniquity?” This failure of understanding leads the modern church to teach that obedience to ever-changing statutes is what Paul and Peter had in mind when they tell us to submit to earthy authorities. Yet these statutes are contradictory to and a replacement for the Law of God which was the law of the land of our forefathers for so many centuries. This is precisely what Daniel saw several millennia earlier while in Babylon:

Daniel 7:23, 25, “Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces. And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.” ​

So the modern church has already embraced the MARK, NAME and NUMBER of the beast and continues to tell its members to do so as good Christians. In the name of obedience to God, most are busily rendering to Caesar the things that are rightfully God's.

 

[megs56]

The mark

Maybe the mark of the beast will be considered as desirable - people may be forming queues to get it. It will make sense, it will be a way to buy and sell (stay alive in other words) in a cashless society steeped in war and terrors of the last days. It will be issued by the beast, who will be viewed as a saviour, offering a solution to the problems of the day PROVIDING we believe in him. Those of us who have our eyes firmly fastened on Christ will refuse this mark and will be killed or left to fend for ourselves.

I don't think it is anything we have in our society now. It will represent the beast, the number of his name. 666 - 6 is the number of man and I guess this could represent a "trinity" of man present in the Antichrist - there is nothing of God within him (or them?). Perhaps it could suggest a religious leader or movement also.

Matthew 24:24 - For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

Praise the Lord Jesus Christ - the dangers of those days will seem like an instant compared to the eons we spend with Him. Hallelujah.

 

[jari]

lawrenceb you right there how mark could have similar meaning as did the law in foreheads and hands.
But it's not true this has anything to do with God's law. we are not judged by law anymore nor under it. Most importantly however the mark isnt about us christians only. its about whole world both small and great.
us having grace and not law is very biblical its basically whole center point of true christians. you should check what bible says about this. the bible says abrahamn was justified before the law come.
and law was added afterwards before the transgression.
those are biblical quotes, you should know.
only jews were given law to live by, not us.
gentiless who are not believers never have the law but this doesnt automatically put them under the mark. the mark is still to come.

 

[jari]

It will make sense, it will be a way to buy and sell (stay alive in other words) in a cashless society steeped in war and terrors of the last days. It will be issued by the beast, who will be viewed as a saviour, offering a solution to the problems of the day PROVIDING we believe in him.

if the mark is merely way to purchase to keep one fed and alive then what's wrong taking the mark?
there isn't anything wrong to use money or coupon to buy.
or credit card.

the beast is worshipped also, which sounds like something more like desired than mandatory.

Matthew 24:24 - For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

this verse tells me elect wont be deceived. " if it were possible"

and Jesus continued:

(Mat 24:25) Behold, I have told you before.
(Mat 24:26) Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.

 

[megs56]

Hey there Jari. No, I don't think there will be anything wrong with taking the mark on the human face of things. I think the HARD thing will be NOT to take it.

Of course, at that time, we will no longer have checks, credit cards or cash. So this system would be a solution and bring some order to chaos.

Yes, I agree with you. The Beast will be worshipped and the worship will be freely given. So we, by not taking the mark, are walking away from food, drink, sustainables, clothing, that would bee keep us fed and warm. Time to throw ourselves on the mercy of the Lord Jesus, then!!

The beast will snare them, lie to them, and in the end imprison them when they realise the enormity of what they have done. They have, by accepting a number under their skin,which states that the bearer belongs to the beast..they have falsely acknowledged that this beast is the Christ and the only Christ. That is the danger here.

 

[jari]

Hey there Jari. No, I don't think there will be anything wrong with taking the mark on the human face of things. I think the HARD thing will be NOT to take it.

sorry megs I don't quite get this statement?

seems like from rev 13 people will gladly take beasts mark, and worship it. and those who dont worship it will be killed.
worship as word means something done out of free will, i think.



15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

seems like people take's it's mark while worshipping it. or beast somehow causes this to happen.

 

[Seeker Of Jesus]

I agree with jari, the mark will be something that the people will freely choose to take, after all the anti-christ will be viewed as the messiah, as the saviour of the world since i believe he will provide solutions to many problems that we face today and not too mention the "miracles" that he will display. So many will be glad to take it because they will see him as god and when everyone see that we (Christians) refuse to take it we will be hated because we will be viewed as criminals and perhaps even terrorists, and to the those that worship the beast and took his mark we will be hated because we have refused to worship "god" and perhaps the anti-christ and his top men will say that the one we follow is the devil and so we (Christians) must be put to death because we will be a threat to there new happy world, and so not only will the anti-christand his men, police, military want us dead but the people (though they're deceived) will be deceived and so i believe that we will be hunted, some thrown into prisons where perhaps we will be tortured and many will be killed.
Just a theory that i have.

 

[B-A-C]

I also agree with this.
However not being able to buy or sell anything (including food) would be a pretty big deterrent for most people.
I'm a pre-trib guy, so I believe the "elect" that can't be deceived are people who got saved after the rapture during the tribulation. The rest of the "elect" will already be taken up. As for it "only" being for buying and selling, well it might start out that way so that people won't think it's so bad. It might be an optional thing to begin with, but eventually the beast will require everyone have it and those who don't will be put to death (it sounds like beheading will be his choice of enforcement)

Rev 20:4 Then I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was given to them. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony of Jesus and because of the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received the mark on their forehead and on their hand; and they came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.

 

[Rockerduck]

Think a little more deeply on the Mark of the beast. It cannot be merely a chip implanted, but an living organism type. Someone could easily cut your arm off to steal your identity. So it would have to be something more complex. As for the SS card, Identity theft is big business, thus it cannot be your mark since it can be stolen and some have more than one SS number, also children get them to go to school and they have no choice. The beast's mark will indeed be permanent and matched to your DNA, that cannot be stolen.

 

[megs56]

The mark

Sorry, I don't think I explained myself clearly enough. I too think that the mark will be taken in freewill. However, when we choose not to take it, then our ostracism or death would occur.

We will voluntarily and with full knowledge be walking away from life in the natural man for our faith in the Lord Jesus Christ when we say that we will not accept the mark upon us. That's all I meant, hope it's a bit clearer Jari?

 

[DutchChristian]

Mark of the beast:

Revelation 14
9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,


Question: Do you have your social security number in your forehead or in your hand?

Question: Have you seen the beast and his image yet?

The answer is NO and NO