Is the human soul mortal or immortal?
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We can disagree. However, that is what's laid out through the Scroptures Paul in particular lays this out.
It's sad that people have been taught this division because many Christians don't even know their hope. The Bible sets as the hope of the Christian a renewed earth in which God will dwell with man. However, many have been wrongly taught that their hope is Heaven.
How about 1 Peter 1:3 "Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ , who according to His abundant mercy has begotten us again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
To an inheritance incorruptible and undefiled and that does not fade away, reserved in heaven for your. "
Without the bodily resurrection of Jesus Christ , there Is no hope for Anyone. But Because of His bodily resurrection a person Can accept Jesus Christ as their personal Savior and Will be able to spend eternity in 'heaven' also referred to as the New Jerusalem. But it is in 'heaven' until eternity begins. The end of Revelation says that God, Himself will bring the New Jerusalem down with Him to earth. And God Will dwell with mankind there.
To an inheritance incorruptible and undefiled and that does not fade away, reserved in heaven for your. "
Without the bodily resurrection of Jesus Christ , there Is no hope for Anyone. But Because of His bodily resurrection a person Can accept Jesus Christ as their personal Savior and Will be able to spend eternity in 'heaven' also referred to as the New Jerusalem. But it is in 'heaven' until eternity begins. The end of Revelation says that God, Himself will bring the New Jerusalem down with Him to earth. And God Will dwell with mankind there.
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First Peter was written to Jewish believers.
So you're saying that the entire Bible has been written only to the Jews / Jewish believers?!
Seems that I've shared John 3:16 with you before -- God so loving the World -- everyone in it. That who so ever believeth.
So Gentile believers are really added on to the Israelites / Jews?
That isn't really possible -- the Church is raptured up and out -- the non-saved Jewish people are still 'here' and go through the 7 yrs. of tribulation.
Two different groups of people.
You are of the group / belief called Replacement Theology. -- I'm not.
Seems that I've shared John 3:16 with you before -- God so loving the World -- everyone in it. That who so ever believeth.
So Gentile believers are really added on to the Israelites / Jews?
That isn't really possible -- the Church is raptured up and out -- the non-saved Jewish people are still 'here' and go through the 7 yrs. of tribulation.
Two different groups of people.
You are of the group / belief called Replacement Theology. -- I'm not.
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I didn't say everything was written to the Jews. However, the Gentiles are grafted into the cultivated olive tree. That's Israel. Paul's said, if one is baptized into Christ they are Abraham's seed.
The church doesn't get raptured out of the world, they go through the tribulation just like everyone else who is alive at the time.
I Thessalonians 4:16 & 17 is the rapture. Also Matt 24:40 - 42. One taken and the other left -- the rapture.
the actual 2nd coming is when Christ comes and stands on the ground Mt. Olives. the beginning of the 1,000 reign of Christ.
The 7 yr trib is for the non-repenant Jews. The 144,000 Jews from the 12 tribes are sent out to evangelize.
the actual 2nd coming is when Christ comes and stands on the ground Mt. Olives. the beginning of the 1,000 reign of Christ.
The 7 yr trib is for the non-repenant Jews. The 144,000 Jews from the 12 tribes are sent out to evangelize.
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Everyone alive at the time goes through the Tribulation. There is nothing in Scripture that says the church is take out.
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Yes. Jesus said to the woman at the well, salvation is of the Jews. Both the old and the new covenants were made with the Jews. The Gentiles can be saved by entering into the covenant that God made with the Jews.
Many don't realize this because modern Christianity and for the most part relegated the Old Testament to a history of Israel. The Old Testament is the hope of Israel and the Gentiles. Paul said that he preached nothing other than what the prophets said would come. If Paul's message was all about what the prophets said and the prophets prophesied about Istsel then the apostle to the Gentiles preached Israel's hope to the Gentiles
And That has pretty much Nothing to do with what I've just been sharing.
You have a real talent for taking Scripture and misapply it to say things that it doesn't really say.
Our 'hope' is in Jesus Christ. His shed blood on the cross for mankind. John 3:16 For God so loved the World. Everyone. That who so ever believeth on Him has ever lasting life.
And Because Of Jesus Christ 'we' Do have assurance / hope of spending eternity with God in 'heaven' / the New Jerusalem.
The Jews Were the first people group that came to Christ.
And we Do find the history of the Jewish race in the Old Testament.
Your 'logic' tends to lead you astray.
You have a real talent for taking Scripture and misapply it to say things that it doesn't really say.
Our 'hope' is in Jesus Christ. His shed blood on the cross for mankind. John 3:16 For God so loved the World. Everyone. That who so ever believeth on Him has ever lasting life.
And Because Of Jesus Christ 'we' Do have assurance / hope of spending eternity with God in 'heaven' / the New Jerusalem.
The Jews Were the first people group that came to Christ.
And we Do find the history of the Jewish race in the Old Testament.
Your 'logic' tends to lead you astray.
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You're proving my point. How does it work? Jesus was........Jewish
Actually -- God created Adam first and then Eve. They were not of Any people group. God provided for Their salvation through the blood of animals. We've had the blood of Jesus Christ shed for mankind -- and, yes, Jesus Christ was a Jew.
Abraham' faith in God saved him. And that was Before the Jewish people came into existence. And, yes, Scripture Does say to the Jew first and then to the Gentile. But He came for the World.
Abraham' faith in God saved him. And that was Before the Jewish people came into existence. And, yes, Scripture Does say to the Jew first and then to the Gentile. But He came for the World.
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This is the Christians hope.
14 And the LORD said unto Abram, after that Lot was separated from him, Lift up now thine eyes, and look from the place where thou art northward, and southward, and eastward, and westward:
15 For all the land which thou seest, to thee will I give it, and to thy seed for ever. (Gen. 13:14-15 KJV)
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The title of this thread is, "Is the human soul mortal or immortal?" The apostle Paul answers this question for us.
15 Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;
16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.
(1 Tim. 6:15-16 KJV)
15 Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;
16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.
(1 Tim. 6:15-16 KJV)
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Paul gives us the answer
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How does that work? Through the Jews.
