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The title of this thread is a little misleading. I don't believe they have to conflict with each other, but rather sometimes they can be out of balance.
When I read the Bible, I notice God has emotions. He is sometimes angry, sometimes sad, and sometimes rejoicing. Eph 4:30; says the Holy Spirit can be grieved.
(Exod 4:14; Numb 11:1; Numb 12:9; Deut 29:27; ... Gen 6:6; ... Psa 21:1; Prov 23:16; etc...)
To me, the fact that we also have emotions, proves that we are made in the image of God. The trouble with humans, is that we sometimes let our emotions control us and get the best of us.
But God also gave a mind, an intellect, a brain to think with. Sometimes we can get too intellectual with God, but sometimes we can get too emotional also.
"Too emotional? Are you sure?" Some people are good at being drama queens, and playing emotions (guilt) against people. I've actually seen people try to do this with God (even here on TalkJesus).
But many times through the Bible we are told to rejoice, at least one verse says it's OK to be angry for a while (but don't let the sun go down on your anger). So obviously it's
OK for us to have emotions.
We are told to love the Lord, with all our heart, soul, mind, and strength. ( Mark 12:30; Luke 10:27; ) Heart and soul con-notate emotions. It's OK to have emotions in our love for God.
But we have to be careful not to go too far with this. There are actually Christians song that talk about physical intimacy with God. Some modern songs say we are going to hug and kiss God.
Some of these songs are more like a secular romance, than a proclamation of love.
Part of the fruit of the Spirit is "joy" ( Gal 5:22; )
On the day of Pentecost, some people though the Apostles and those in the upper room were drunk. ( Acts 2:13-14; )
1Cor 14:14; For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays, but my mind is unfruitful.
1Cor 14:15; What is the outcome then? I will pray with the spirit and I will pray with the mind also; I will sing with the spirit and I will sing with the mind also.
Paul says when we pray, don't just pray in the Spirit, but pray with your mind also. Don't just worship in the Spirit, but worship with your mind also.
Col 1:9; says we can be filled with the wisdom of God, James 1:5; says if we lack wisdom, we should ask for it.
We shouldn't criticize some denominations for being more emotional, and we shouldn't criticize other denominations for being too stodgy and liturgical.
The word "anger" is in 268 verses in my Bible. The word "angry" in there 87 times. The word "rejoice" is in 145 verses. We are told laughter is good medicine.
"Joy" is in 170 verses. We are told the joy of the Lord is our strength.
There should be some emotion in our relationship with God, but there should also be reasoning, wisdom, and intellect in our relationship with God as well.
We need to be careful not to go too far completely in one direction or the other. When people start talking about physical intimacy with God, it's time to back off.
When people are all intellect, and logic it's time to back off.
Eccl 3:4; A time to weep and a time to laugh; A time to mourn and a time to dance.
2Sam 6:14; And David was dancing before the LORD with all his might, and David was wearing a linen ephod.
When I read the Bible, I notice God has emotions. He is sometimes angry, sometimes sad, and sometimes rejoicing. Eph 4:30; says the Holy Spirit can be grieved.
(Exod 4:14; Numb 11:1; Numb 12:9; Deut 29:27; ... Gen 6:6; ... Psa 21:1; Prov 23:16; etc...)
To me, the fact that we also have emotions, proves that we are made in the image of God. The trouble with humans, is that we sometimes let our emotions control us and get the best of us.
But God also gave a mind, an intellect, a brain to think with. Sometimes we can get too intellectual with God, but sometimes we can get too emotional also.
"Too emotional? Are you sure?" Some people are good at being drama queens, and playing emotions (guilt) against people. I've actually seen people try to do this with God (even here on TalkJesus).
But many times through the Bible we are told to rejoice, at least one verse says it's OK to be angry for a while (but don't let the sun go down on your anger). So obviously it's
OK for us to have emotions.
We are told to love the Lord, with all our heart, soul, mind, and strength. ( Mark 12:30; Luke 10:27; ) Heart and soul con-notate emotions. It's OK to have emotions in our love for God.
But we have to be careful not to go too far with this. There are actually Christians song that talk about physical intimacy with God. Some modern songs say we are going to hug and kiss God.
Some of these songs are more like a secular romance, than a proclamation of love.
Part of the fruit of the Spirit is "joy" ( Gal 5:22; )
On the day of Pentecost, some people though the Apostles and those in the upper room were drunk. ( Acts 2:13-14; )
1Cor 14:14; For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays, but my mind is unfruitful.
1Cor 14:15; What is the outcome then? I will pray with the spirit and I will pray with the mind also; I will sing with the spirit and I will sing with the mind also.
Paul says when we pray, don't just pray in the Spirit, but pray with your mind also. Don't just worship in the Spirit, but worship with your mind also.
Col 1:9; says we can be filled with the wisdom of God, James 1:5; says if we lack wisdom, we should ask for it.
We shouldn't criticize some denominations for being more emotional, and we shouldn't criticize other denominations for being too stodgy and liturgical.
The word "anger" is in 268 verses in my Bible. The word "angry" in there 87 times. The word "rejoice" is in 145 verses. We are told laughter is good medicine.
"Joy" is in 170 verses. We are told the joy of the Lord is our strength.
There should be some emotion in our relationship with God, but there should also be reasoning, wisdom, and intellect in our relationship with God as well.
We need to be careful not to go too far completely in one direction or the other. When people start talking about physical intimacy with God, it's time to back off.
When people are all intellect, and logic it's time to back off.
Eccl 3:4; A time to weep and a time to laugh; A time to mourn and a time to dance.
2Sam 6:14; And David was dancing before the LORD with all his might, and David was wearing a linen ephod.