If the OT is trumped by the NT why then...

[Born Again 2004]

Just don't throw a partial statement or partial verse at me

Why is Hebrews 8:13 a "partial " verse?
I have always said that the Old Law was was/is holy, righteous and blameless,,,why can't you accept that in me?

 

[Bendito]

Why is Hebrews 8:13 a "partial " verse?
I have always said that the Old Law was was/is holy, righteous and blameless,,,why can't you accept that in me?

Hebrews 8:13 is a partial statement/ thought...Read it in context with the rest of the chapter and see what I mean... He is talking about the covenants..both of them....He is telling of how, in the old covenant the priest was the only one who could approach God in the Holy of holies....Then he says what the new covenant will be....and how that part of the old will fade away....If you only read only the one verse you then will include all of the old covenant law, and cast away all of it....The chapter is very clear about what is to be replaced I never said the Old Covenant was anything but holy and righteous...even though it was made faulted.

 

[Born Again 2004]

If you only read only the one verse you then will include all of the old covenant law, and cast away all of it....The chapter is very clear about what is to be replaced

Please, please quit inferring that....I have said time and time again that Jesus came to fulfill the original law ( 10 commandments) and that, they are perfect , holy, righteous and blameless. I have never said that they went away!!
Now please explain where the "Holy of Holies" is now and where was it in the Old Covenant?

 

[Bendito]

Please, please quit inferring that....I have said time and time again that Jesus came to fulfill the original law ( 10 commandments) and that, they are perfect , holy, righteous and blameless. I have never said that they went away!!
Now please explain where the "Holy of Holies" is now and where was it in the Old Covenant?

I'm sorry my friend....Inferring what?
The holy of holies is right where its always been..Old covenant and new....The holy of holies is right in the PRESENCE of God.. In the old covenant the high priest was the one who could go there, according to specific ritual. In the new covenant you are a priest and king who can enter in to the PRESENCE at will...
I don't understand the problem.
Where am I giving offense to you?

 

[Born Again 2004]

I'm sorry my friend....Inferring what?
The holy of holies is right where its always been..Old covenant and new....The holy of holies is right in the PRESENCE of God.. In the old covenant the high priest was the one who could go there, according to specific ritual. In the new covenant you are a priest and king who can enter in to the PRESENCE at will...
I don't understand the problem.
Where am I giving offense to you?

Unlike the Old Covenant ,where there was a Temple and the Holy of Holies was the inner most sanctum where God resided and only the High priest could enter, In the New Covenant, you are the Temple and Christ resides in you....the Holy of Holies is in you! As a Born Again Christian, you have free and immediate access....that's a whole lot of difference there!

 

[Bendito]

Unlike the Old Covenant ,where there was a Temple and the Holy of Holies was the inner most sanctum where God resided and only the High priest could enter, In the New Covenant, you are the Temple and Christ resides in you....the Holy of Holies is in you! As a Born Again Christian, you have free and immediate access....that's a whole lot of difference there!

So then it looks as though we agree....Is there a problem other than perception?

 

[Born Again 2004]

So then it looks as though we agree....Is there a problem other than perception?

No, I have always agreed that the Law has never gone away, it is as much pertinent today as it was in ancient times but the New Covenant is a new agreement between man and God, supersedes and is better than the Old Covenant.

 

[Fragrant Grace]

Greetings @Bendito @Born Again 2004

Please pm each other rather than debate/argue like this in public

The way you are responding to each other on the thread is off putting to others contributing

Thank you

 

[Beameup]

You're a gentile? Really? Well I just want to let you know that when you were born again you died...You were reborn into the family of God...A Jew by adoption if you will.....

I'm a member of the Body of Christ. The first "member" being in Acts 9 when Paul was called to be the Apostle to the Gentiles.
"Give none offence, neither to the (1) Jews, nor to the (2) Gentiles, nor to the (3) church of God" - which is the Body of Christ - 1 Cor 10:32

To Paul was given a specific set of instructions (ie: doctrine) by the risen Christ.
I'm not a part of the Jewish "Sect of the Nazarenes" and do not follow "Hebrew Roots" (Jewish doctrine).