If Jesus Is Not God, Christianity Falls Apart

[KingJ]

Before looking at the many passages of Scripture concerning the deity of Christ, I want to begin with ten simple logical arguments.

These are intended to demonstrate why the question of who Jesus is matters so profoundly. If Jesus is merely a created being rather than God, Christianity faces some enormous theological, logical and moral problems.

Here are ten reasons why I believe the biblical teaching that Jesus is Lord and truly God is not merely a theological detail, but fundamental to Christianity itself.

1. The justice problem: God would be unjust if He punished a separate being called “Jesus” for sins that Jesus did not commit. But Scripture clearly says of God, “just and right is he.” Deuteronomy 32:4.

2. The substitution problem: Why would God punish an innocent created being for the sins of guilty people? If Jesus is God who voluntarily took our punishment upon Himself, the moral problem disappears.

3. The worship problem: Christians worship Jesus. If Jesus is merely a created being, then Christianity is giving divine worship to a creature, which would itself be idolatry (Exodus 20:3–5).

4. The forgiveness problem: Jesus forgave sins (Mark 2:5). The people correctly recognised the question: “Who can forgive sins but God only?” (Mark 2:7). If Jesus is not God, why does He exercise God's authority to forgive sins?

5. The salvation problem: Scripture says, “Neither is there salvation in any other” (Acts 4:12). If Jesus is merely a creature, Christianity makes our eternal salvation dependent upon a creature.

6. The Lordship problem: Philippians 2:11 says “every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord.” Isaiah 45:23 says that every knee will bow and every tongue will confess to God. The New Testament applies this divine language to Jesus. Philippians 2:10–11 “That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth.

7. The Creator problem: John 1:3 says, “All things were made by him.” If all created things were made through Christ, then Christ cannot simply be another created thing.

8. The fullness-of-God problem: Colossians 2:9 says, “in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.” That is far more than saying Jesus was merely a prophet or exalted creature.

9. The Emmanuel problem: Matthew 1:23 calls Jesus “Emmanuel,” meaning “God with us.” If Jesus is not God, then the central meaning given to His incarnation becomes false.

10. The foundation problem: If Jesus is not God, then the entire biblical story comes into question. The Old Testament prophecies concerning the Messiah, the promises of salvation, the claims of Jesus, and the teaching of the apostles would all have to be fundamentally reinterpreted. Christianity is built upon Jesus being the promised Messiah, Lord and Saviour. If He is merely a created being, then the very foundation upon which the New Testament presents the fulfilment of Scripture is false.

 

[KingJ]

For information purposes, these are ten of the most commonly cited passages supporting the Trinity.

1. Isaiah 9:6 — “For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given... and his name shall be called... The mighty God, The everlasting Father...”
2. John 1:1 — “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.”
3. John 1:14 — “And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us...”
4. John 20:28 — “And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.”
5. Titus 2:13 — “...the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ.”
6. Hebrews 1:8 — “But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever...”
7. Colossians 2:9 — “For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.”
8. Philippians 2:6 — “Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God.”
9. Romans 9:5 — “...Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever.”
10. John 8:58 — “Before Abraham was, I am.

 

[Twistie]

For information purposes, these are ten of the most commonly cited passages supporting the Trinity.

1. Isaiah 9:6 — “For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given... and his name shall be called... The mighty God, The everlasting Father...”
2. John 1:1 — “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.”
3. John 1:14 — “And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us...”
4. John 20:28 — “And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.”
5. Titus 2:13 — “...the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ.”
6. Hebrews 1:8 — “But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever...”
7. Colossians 2:9 — “For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.”
8. Philippians 2:6 — “Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God.”
9. Romans 9:5 — “...Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever.”
10. John 8:58 — “Before Abraham was, I am.

Ya believe the Messiah died for ya tho correct?
Death is separation from Abba..
Ya don't believe the Messiah was Abbas Son?
Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him.
Im just trying to figure out what you believe.. either one believe that the Son took on their Sins by death which is separating from our Father went into the depths of hell and the Father raised Him on the third day or one does not..
One believes the Father sat Him on the right Hand of the throne for being a good and faithful son or one does not..

Hope alls well

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