to think a non believer, like an atheist, dies spiritually and goes to hell is in error. Those spirits do not die ; they are bound to eternal damnation in hell, where the worm never quits eating and the fire is never quenched. Amen
Before i became a christian i said many terrible things about Jesus. at one point I thought he was part of some alien conspiracy to prevent man-kind from saving itself. i dont know that i ever went so far as to claim that Jesus Himself had an unclean spirit, but i certainly said and believed some terrible things about Him. so I am not sure that is what the unforgiveable sin is. Jesus even said that people can blaspheme Him, blaspheme the Father, and they can be forgive for both. its only blaspheme of The Holy Spirit that is unforgiveable. as to what that is... i dont know. Did Jesus say that the pharisees committed blasphemy of The Holy Spirit? I dont think he said that, I think He made the comment that blasphemy of The Holy Spirit is the only unforgiveable sin. many people assume that Jesus made the statement that the sin had been committed, I think maybe He was just warning them that if they persisted in their sin that they could end up committing the unforgiveable sin. thats just my current opinion thoThis has been a sore spot for oh so many believers,the unforgivable sin talked about matt 12:26-37 and in Mark 3:28-30 But please look very close at verse 30!!! This is the sin! I do not know of anyone myself who has ever said that Jesus Christ had any unclean Spirit!! People have spoke against many things, tongues etc... Blasphemy is defined in verse 30! This is the eternal sin! Even when i was a non believer I could never ever say Jesus had any evil spirit, did you?? The problem is that many believers look to add to this sin, when there should not be any thing to add! SO!!!! Rom 4:8 fits all of us! For in Rom 4:8 if anyone in there right mind knows, who could ever say in there right mind Jesus Christ had an evil Spirit?? Even when my mind was so very dark,i could never say this! And how could the Lord then ever say this??( rom 8:1???) So please!! because i sure did this for a number of years myself,do not beat yourself up over something you never did! I sure hope this brings comfort to so many! 2 cor 1:3-7!!) Blessing all!
what led up to the man calling you a devil?it happened to a self righteous preacher that called me the devil. I watched as the Lord placed a black veil over him. When I enquired of the Lord what that was; He took me to Jude v. 12, 13.
When someone comes through the door professing they come in the name of the Lord, one may want to consider God before one treats them shamefully. Amen.
I greived for him and the fold beyond any words i can say. The congregation was sprinkled with a gray mist, as well. Even though they knew it was wrong, they said absolutely nothing. For he was raging wave. So sad.
I am sorry that you are confused with this. but there is no conflict or contradiction here.
Let me try and explain each verse and see if I can ease your confusion:
- Luke 2:12 And anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him; but to him who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven... some translations say that: " every matter of sin can be forgiven" including rejecting Jesus or God. How is it forgiven? Well, anytime before you die and you repent, accept Jesus work and come to God (believe), you will be saved
- Mark 3:29 And anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him; but to him who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven JohnP, look at this way, it is kind of a play on the word Blaspheme :
I am sorry, I don't know how to explain it any better! But, if need be, I will try again.....God Bless!
- You die a believer, having accepted Jesus / God and receive the Holy Spirit inside you....i.e., you have not rejected or Blasphemed the Holy Spirit! Remember, as a believer, you have the Holy SPIRIT inside you! -or-
- You die a non-believer, having NOT accepted Jesus / God and have NOT received the Holy Spirit in you...i.e., you have rejected or Blasphemed the Holy Spirit.
- A believer = a person who has NOT rejected or Blasphemed the Holy Spirit. If you die in this condition, you will go to Heaven.
- A non-believer = a person who HAS rejected or Blasphemed the Holy Spirit....if you die in this condition, like an Atheist, you will die spiritually and you go to Hell and not Heaven.
In regards to the unpardonable sin, "Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit", I think your answer is : "this particular person will never come to know Christ to receive forgiveness?" and here is why:Does that mean a person will seek forgiveness, but won't be able to receive it? Or this particular person will never come to know christ to receive forgiveness?
This is Great! I like to add that the outcome of the scriptures used can only be good, holy, righteous and blameless, or you have a faulty interpretation!One scripture must have a backup! Because Jesus always confirms his very own word! Remember this as I have,and you are well on your way to walking a stumble free life in Jesus!
I was following the Lord's command, to go to the front and pray. Si I did; I was at the alter weeping and praying, silently, to my Father while they sang their hymns.what led up to the man calling you a devil?
sounds like the man was under the control of a demonI was following the Lord's command, to go to the front and pray. Si I did; I was at the alter weeping and praying, silently, to my Father while they sang their hymns.
While praying, I felt a weight that came upon my back. I heard a voice tell me, "remember i will not put more on you than you can bare." I said silently, "Lord, what is that?" I heard, "how does that feel? Jesus felt the entire weight of the world's sins upon Him; you felt one little church with a hamdful of people. How does it feel?" I said, still silently, but weeping even harder, "Father, forgive them. They know not what they do." And about then, the preacher came up under my arm and started pulling at me. I said, "Lord, what do I do?" I heard the most peaceful, loving voice say, " go with him." And he took me to the back and told me I was listening to that other guy. Yet, he couldnt lift his head off the floor to look me in the eye. He also told me, "we do wrestle with flesh and blood." And, "we don't have to fear God." and more.
So, as you your question, there is the answer... Jesus Christ is the Way, the Truth and the Life. Until a person has believed and had faith in Him and followed in the footsteps of Him, obeying His commands... you dont know Him. Amen.
yes, brother, we are capable all by ourselves. that is why it is so important to keep Him first and our heart and mind upon Him always. Our neighbor second and ourselves last. amen. if we can do this we shall fulfil the law. amen.well, it is certainly true that we are all evil, and perfectly capable of "doing bad all by ourself" (to quote dennis rodman ha ha.. 'i can do bad all by myself' )
but the words and actions of that man, as you described them to me, seem more like the wiles of the devil than the cunning of man.
but, it could have just been a lost soul speaking his mind.
either way...
Thanks for your reply.
The bar code I held to my forehead was from an item I had already purchased and it was in my own home. I don't really know why I did it, I just know and knew before I did it that I shouldn't do it
I would like to begin by saying that Jesus does forgive us of anything we seek forgiveness for and repent of, but he will NOT forgive blasphemy of the Holy Spirit, nor will he forgive anybody who receives the mark of the beast, any such people will go to eternal hell with no exceptions whatsoever.
I would appreciate it very much if you could help me out in my situation as I feel constant worry about it and also I feel stupid for what I did.
I'm aware of the Biblical book of Revelation's and particularly about the mark of the beast during the End Times and great Tribulation. I know that the Antichrist will try and get as many people as possible to receive a mark (his mark, the mark of the beast) in/on the right hand or in/on the forehead that no man may buy or sell saith he had the mark which is the name or the number of his name 666. I understand anybody who accepts this mark will go to hell, no if's about it, they will go to hell 100% guaranteed.
I believe a lot of today's technology could be a stepping stone towards, be the forerunner of or be the actual mark in the future on the right hand or forehead used for buying and selling and mainly the purpose of the mark will be worshiping Satan.
What I would please like your your advice on is this.
I was at home just over a month ago and the UPC barcode on a cardboard retail packaging caught my attention, I ripped the barcode from the box and held it for about 1 minute barcode side touching my forehead for about 1 minute. I knew it was wrong when I was doing this stupid act and in my heart I knew I shouldn't have done it. I don't know if it was my own stupidity or a demonic influence leading me to do this, I'm not sure.
I have OCD and when I do things once I feel the tendency to have to do it again. so I did it again a couple more times with different items with UPC on them, held the barcode side touching my forehead for a few seconds.
Last time I did it was just a little more than one month ago , I have asked for forgiveness from Jesus and repented and will forever stay repented from it, I feel so stupid for doing it and I truly asked for forgiveness from Jesus.
The said act is something I want to know if Jesus has forgiven me of and is something I certainly want to forget and leave in the past but I need to be sure of God's forgiveness first.
Now though that I'm trying to move on and forget about it I just get the worry in my mind that Jesus may not forgive me for this. I'm not sure where the worry is coming from or if it is Satan putting doubt in my mind trying to make me think Jesus won't forgive me.
It keeps me awake 2 months later, I still worry about it constantly day and night, It's really getting me down.
I just want to move on and strengthen my life with God but feel this worry is hindering my progress with Jesus.
Do you think this act is something Jesus forgives me from?