I hate myself and worry all the time

[Wired 4 Fishen]

That is not what scripture says about Job. God allowed the devil to do as he pleased, except take his life.

Religion teaches that.
Start a new thread and let's see what scripture really says.

 

[Wired 4 Fishen]

Also, Jesus cured a man's sight. He was asked, whose sin caused this. And Jesus replied no ones sin, but for the glory of God.

Ok point is?
God did not make Him blind just to show His Glory

 

[Wired 4 Fishen]

So the blind man suffered his whole life for that one moment. God causes things to happen all the time.

Don't even begin to think God allows or makes people sick or causes tragedy in order to show up and be the hero of the hour.
That's a loud of bad teaching.

There is a thing called the curse which has brought all sort of evil into this world.
God is NOT behind it nor does he sub contract the devil.

 

[Bill]

Demons are names given to evil spirits that are the leftover spirits that once resided in the half breed children of women and angels. They for the most part died in the great flood and because they are neither human or angels, their spirits were consigned to wonder the earth, and because they hate both man and God, they take out their vengeance on human kind as much as possible. Why is it that you dont like the verbage?

And where do you find this info? Sorry dude, WRONG

 

[Bill]

Don't even begin to think God allows or makes people sick or causes tragedy in order to show up and be the hero of the hour.
That's a loud of bad teaching.

There is a thing called the curse which has brought all sort of evil into this world.
God is NOT behind it nor does he sub contract the devil.

You dont seem to understand. What is good to God, is not what you comprehend.

Let us look at the lives of the Israelites. There are wars and all types of hardships. Yet they are Gods favored.

If Gods love is so great for them, why does he allow such hardships?

Maybe because, when We look at it. We say, holy cow. They must be sinners. Yet when God looks at them, it is in preparation of the messiah.
He isnt looking at thier struggle as a bad thing

 

[Bill]

Religion teaches that.
Start a new thread and let's see what scripture really says.

You didnt answer my question on the Two Witnesses. The havoc they will produce, is it evil? And if it comes from God, why would God allow such havoc. There will still be Christians in the world at that time. They too will be suffering.

 

[amadeus2]

Yes, the easy path.

We here at this site along with other Christians who take time to talk, argue, challenge eachother are more grown up than many others. Certainly a few youngsters. Lol. But to be honest. All here, adults.

Ya i dont always agree. And you dont always agree with me. But we can still stand up. There is strong faith here. Not just one or two, but many if not most.

Im not talking about our unbeliever friends. God brought them here for a reason to. If only to plant a seed.

This is who we are, Gods farmers.

Now i lost my train of thought, lol

I have OMS- old man syndrome lol

I know, you do too.

What? At 74 would anyone consider me old? LOL
My pastor will attain the age of 93 this coming July. I wonder if he is involved in this OMS of which you speak.

A hard thing for everyone at times is to discuss or even argue the things of God without lashing out with hurting words against those with whom we differ. This also goes back that great chapter of I Corinthians 13.

The farming part is mentioned more directly here:

"I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase.
So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase.
Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and every man shall receive his own reward according to his own labour.
For we are labourers together with God: ye are God's husbandry, ye are God's building." I Cor 3:6-9

 

[Wired 4 Fishen]

You dont seem to understand. What is good to God, is not what you comprehend.

Let us look at the lives of the Israelites. There are wars and all types of hardships. Yet they are Gods favored.

If Gods love is so great for them, why does he allow such hardships?

Maybe because, when We look at it. We say, holy cow. They must be sinners. Yet when God looks at them, it is in preparation of the messiah.
He isnt looking at thier struggle as a bad thing

Now climb on back into the NT

 

[Bill]

Now climb on back into the NT

Does God change? Whether old or new testiment, God is always the same.

This is why i brought up the Witnesses.

They are only the Servants of the Most High. Yet God gives them the authority to strike the planet with plagues "as often as they wish".

God working through them will directly bring hardships to everyone on planet earth. Do you remember the story where an enemy comes in the night and sows weeds. What does the Master say to his servants. Let the weeds grow up with the crop.

We are the crop, and the weeds are our hardships. The crosses that we bear fot Gods glory.

 

[Wired 4 Fishen]

Does God change? Whether old or new testiment, God is always the same.

This is why i brought up the Witnesses.

They are only the Servants of the Most High. Yet God gives them the authority to strike the planet with plagues "as often as they wish".

God working through them will directly bring hardships to everyone on planet earth. Do you remember the story where an enemy comes in the night and sows weeds. What does the Master say to his servants. Let the weeds grow up with the crop.

We are the crop, and the weeds are our hardships. The crosses that we bear fot Gods glory.

Where do you get this stuff from?
Let's use His word.

 

[Hekuran]

Friends, there are better places on the forum to have this kind of conversation. If what you have to say is not in response to the opening post, it would be better to start a new thread.

 

[Bill]

Friends, there are better places on the forum to have this kind of conversation. If what you have to say is not in response to the opening post, it would be better to start a new thread.

Thank you for the remind. We do get involved at times, lol

 

[Brad Huber]

And where do you find this info? Sorry dude, WRONG

Its in the book of Enoch. Perhaps you have heard of it? Both the Jews and the Christians both believed in it until they realized it spoke badly about the leaders of both. Its easy to be negative about something you dont like, sorta like you didnt like my answer. :smile:

 

[Bill]

Its in the book of Enoch. Perhaps you have heard of it? Both the Jews and the Christians both believed in it until they realized it spoke badly about the leaders of both. Its easy to be negative about something you dont like, sorta like you didnt like my answer. :smile:

I started a new post to contiue this. God creating hardships. Please join

 

[Bill]

Friends, there are better places on the forum to have this kind of conversation. If what you have to say is not in response to the opening post, it would be better to start a new thread.

You are welcome to join the contination of this discussion. The post, God creating hardships

 

[Bill]

Where do you get this stuff from?
Let's use His word.

I think i got your thoughts right, brother. I started a new post titled God creating hardships. I didnt use your name, as i didnt have your permission. Please correct me if im wrong