Change your approach....Instead of trying to make them do it, let them think it's their idea....Forcing it will not work.How do we get our elderly parent to exercise more when they do not want to at all and they are getting worse and worse mentally as well as physically?
Do we give up and give it to God or do we make like a drill sergeant just to get them out of that chair to walk & keep them walking?
Can you give an example, please? Reverse psychology or what?Change your approach....Instead of trying to make them do it, let them think it's their idea....Forcing it will not work.
Instead of saying "Get off your fat butt and go for a walk" Try saying something like. "Where would you like to walk today?" That sort of thing.. Because a person has dementia, does not mean they are stupid or in any way less intelligent....It simply means they cannot process data very well anymore. Dementia makes a person feel less of themselves.... a formerly independent person will feel resentful of the fact that now they are dependent on others for almost everything. In some dementias, short term memory is gone...in other dementias, long term memory is gone. In all dementias, confusion reigns for the victim...You have to work with that and not force anything. Treat your LO with love and compassion always.Can you give an example, please? Reverse psychology or what?
I understand his desire to stay in his chair...It may hurt him to stand up. It hurts me to make my body move...It hurts to stand, to walk, to lay down for more than a few hours at a time...etc. Its just so easy to just sit. Whats wrong with my body that moving hurts so much? Not a thing! It's all the thing in my head...dementia means your brain is dying...things don't work or they don't work right. The muscles stiffen up for no good reason and it hurts to make them move.Thanks for the advise.
He just does not want to get out of that lazy boy chair.
My older brother had e-mailed me and said the same thing about not forcing him, and he was coming over tomorrow to talk with me about it.
So maybe he can assess the situation better visually, but if my folks are keeping something from me like if he was dying from a disease or something for why he is not motivated, then I can understand and let it go.
There is a woman who posts on YouTube named Teepa Snow...Shes super good at helping people deal with people with dementia....You should look her up on there and learn stuff....It'll be a big help to you and to your LO. For a healthy person its sometimes hard to remember that a person with dementia is not demented...Thanks for the advise.
He just does not want to get out of that lazy boy chair.
My older brother had e-mailed me and said the same thing about not forcing him, and he was coming over tomorrow to talk with me about it.
So maybe he can assess the situation better visually, but if my folks are keeping something from me like if he was dying from a disease or something for why he is not motivated, then I can understand and let it go.
Okay. Thanks for sharing. He has gotten worse and so he was less and les moving out of that lazy boy chair was why I was concern, but yet at the same time, he had been doing a walk around the house and on a treadmill, but after a doctor's visit, he just seem to quit and so makes me think he got bad news he is not telling me about, and yet he is getting worse mentally and not just physically.I understand his desire to stay in his chair...It may hurt him to stand up. It hurts me to make my body move...It hurts to stand, to walk, to lay down for more than a few hours at a time...etc. Its just so easy to just sit. Whats wrong with my body that moving hurts so much? Not a thing! It's all the thing in my head...dementia means your brain is dying...things don't work or they don't work right. The muscles stiffen up for no good reason and it hurts to make them move.
May I ask which kind of dementia he has?Okay. Thanks for sharing. He has gotten worse and so he was less and les moving out of that lazy boy chair was why I was concern, but yet at the same time, he had been doing a walk around the house and on a treadmill, but after a doctor's visit, he just seem to quit and so makes me think he got bad news he is not telling me about, and yet he is getting worse mentally and not just physically.
So just another thing I am helpless to do anything about except ask the Lord to help me give it to Him.
I am not so healthy a person. Suffering from tinnitus in my only good ear which helps me to zone out the voices that I started hearing in high school but eventually got diagnosed as paranoid schizophrenic when people start saying things or behaving as if my thoughts were accessed by others as they are tattle tales to cause them to behave that way for that effect of alienating me. Then I became a diabetic. Then recently I just had neuroendocrine pancreatic cancer surgery and my diabetes went from glipizide and metformin to insulin shots now. And I have heard those that are like me, the nerve damage to my ears, are more susceptible to dementia at an early age than normal people. Yay! Trying to be funny to alleviate my depressing condition, but the Lord is with me and He is taking care of me and so I am thankful for letting me know that & see that He is taking care of me to give the Father thanks in Jesus's name.There is a woman who posts on YouTube named Teepa Snow...Shes super good at helping people deal with people with dementia....You should look her up on there and learn stuff....It'll be a big help to you and to your LO. For a healthy person its sometimes hard to remember that a person with dementia is not demented...
If he has any, I do not know of, other than he is forgetting now his routines in what pills to take for his meals. My mother called to arrange for a nurse to visit and show her what to do as I pointed out that it should be written down too. If the Lord wants me to take care of both of them, my mother should have her pills written down too, so I can know when I have to do it for her too as well as for him.May I ask which kind of dementia he has?
I honestly am not sure what to do to get your parents to excercise. I would try to convince them with the scriptures somehow to exercise. If that didn't work, then I guess it would be left up to prayer.I am not so healthy a person. Suffering from tinnitus in my only good ear which helps me to zone out the voices that I started hearing in high school but eventually got diagnosed as paranoid schizophrenic when people start saying things or behaving as if my thoughts were accessed by others as they are tattle tales to cause them to behave that way for that effect of alienating me. Then I became a diabetic. Then recently I just had neuroendocrine pancreatic cancer surgery and my diabetes went from glipizide and metformin to insulin shots now. And I have heard those that are like me, the nerve damage to my ears, are more susceptible to dementia at an early age than normal people. Yay! Trying to be funny to alleviate my depressing condition, but the Lord is with me and He is taking care of me and so I am thankful for letting me know that & see that He is taking care of me to give the Father thanks in Jesus's name.
Even though, like Paul, I have a desire to depart from this life to go Home where I will be free to love others as others will be free to love me as we are all suppose to in Christ, still let the Father's will be done and not mine..
I doubt my ability to take care of my parents, especially when I see evidence that my enemies that have access to my thoughts have been helping themselves to our house, even during the night. I barred the sliding door and the regular doors from the inside, but I have seen evidence that somehow they are still getting in. And so I pretty much see myself as a worthless person to be taking care of them when my enemies can plan mischiefs and run circles around me where every I go, including at home. My folks are tolerating me and do not believe what I am seeing regardless of the evidence and so... really think my older brother is better suited to take care of them and just trot me off to a group home or something.
Personally hoping the Lord would just take me Home and that would be that. But in the mean time, I ma trusting Him t lead me in the way He wants me to go and trusting Him that if I make a wrong decision, He will direct my footsteps otherwise.
Proverbs 16:9 A man's heart deviseth his way: but the Lord directeth his steps.
I reckon I should trust the Lord to take care of my Dad in directing his steps in taking better care of himself since that is what He is doing in keeping my eyes on Him in going through the every day storms of my life.
Thank you for sharing.
Prayer it is. My older brother got my folks some new deck chairs and so that got my Dad to venture out.I honestly am not sure what to do to get your parents to excercise. I would try to convince them with the scriptures somehow to exercise. If that didn't work, then I guess it would be left up to prayer.
Thanks.As for your own health I would be praying for the Lord to heal you.
The Lord is carrying me through it. His power is made great in my weakness.As for the voices, I don't know. I just read C.S. Lewis's book the Screwtape Letters. This was the first C.S. Lewis book I had read. I enjoyed it. It was about a demonic entity taking orders from its hierarchy to destroy a newly converted Christian from the faith by giving him invisible impulses. C.S. Lewis said it was stressful to put his mind into a state to write the book, and he didn't think his readers or him could have stood another volume.
I trust Him as my Good Shepherd & Friend to take care of me as the Father does together with His Son, and I trust Him to have me ready as found abiding in Him & His words as well as being willing to go when He comes as the Bridegroom.As for your enemies coming into your house at night. Keep waking up, because you don't know at what hour the Lord is coming as a thief in the night. There are multiple verses of this throughout the New Testament. Some of which we discussed in the other thread.
Revelation 3:1-6
Mark 13:32-37
28 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When her branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is near:
29 So ye in like manner, when ye shall see these things come to pass, know that it is nigh, even at the doors.
30 Verily I say unto you, that this generation shall not pass, till all these things be done.
31 Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away.
32 But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.
33 Take ye heed, watch and pray: for ye know not when the time is.
34 For the Son of Man is as a man taking a far journey, who left his house, and gave authority to his servants, and to every man his work, and commanded the porter to watch.
35 Watch ye therefore: for ye know not when the master of the house cometh, at even, or at midnight, or at the cockcrowing, or in the morning:
36 Lest coming suddenly he find you sleeping.
37 And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch
Dear Brother,How do we get our elderly parent to exercise more when they do not want to at all and they are getting worse and worse mentally as well as physically?
Do we give up and give it to God or do we make like a drill sergeant just to get them out of that chair to walk & keep them walking?
I do not like that phrase when the Holy Spirit is in us. There is no moving of the Holy Spirit upon our spirits when He is with us always since salvation. Mayhap you meant to say something else, and not inferring a visitation of the Holy Spirit moving on my folks, but I am just letting you know that phrase to me has been used way too often for those apostasy that I speak against.Dear Brother,
Prayer of course is first and foremost. Asking for guidance, and that the Holy Spirit move upon their spirit with a desire to be accommodating to exercising.
They are not honest with me regarding their health. I do not want to get into it, but there are indications that they are keeping something from me about both of them. I even found an after office visit regarding my Mother's health which had confirmed my suspicions and my dad just quit walking after that one doctor's office visit as if he got some bad news and he just isn't motivated any more. Anyway, Mom's in better health I guess since she moves about and goes out and even exercises, but not my Dad.Not knowing their age, and also the difficulties they may have in moving around it is difficult to say that doing this or that is what will help. As the son I would suggest that you schedule a time to get them to go for a walk with you! I say with you, because at least your mother will want to do what you ask, because children are the apple of their eye! My wife is disabled, and I can ask her to do something and she will say no, but have my son come in the room and ask the same thing, and she couldn't say yes fast enough!!! Also, like children have done to parents for ages, you can play one against the other! Not the best solution with that latter one, but you'd be surprised how effective it can be!
These are not sure fired ways, but in prayer, and with God's help you will surely succeed! Still, sometimes, folks do just get tired. Normally, trying to get them to do things is to seek peak hours of energy, which for most folks is the morning. Wait to the afternoon or evening, and more than likely you'll meet greater resistance to doing any exercises. Also, I guess you can make it fun. Make it like a game, oh, maybe even some old friends of theirs, even other family members or even neighbors that they get along with. Church involvement like getting the Pastor to visit, or if your church has a care ministry might also be able to help. Of course the church can send prayers Heavenward for them & you!!!
I do thank you for your prayers.My heart goes out to you, and I'll pray for you all!
With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
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Some people should not give advice.I honestly am not sure what to do to get your parents to excercise. I would try to convince them with the scriptures somehow to exercise. If that didn't work, then I guess it would be left up to prayer.
As for your own health I would be praying for the Lord to heal you. As for the voices, I don't know. I just read C.S. Lewis's book the Screwtape Letters. This was the first C.S. Lewis book I had read. I enjoyed it. It was about a demonic entity taking orders from its hierarchy to destroy a newly converted Christian from the faith by giving him invisible impulses. C.S. Lewis said it was stressful to put his mind into a state to write the book, and he didn't think his readers or him could have stood another volume.
As for your enemies coming into your house at night. Keep waking up, because you don't know at what hour the Lord is coming as a thief in the night. There are multiple verses of this throughout the New Testament. Some of which we discussed in the other thread.
Revelation 3:1-6
Mark 13:32-37
28 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When her branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is near:
29 So ye in like manner, when ye shall see these things come to pass, know that it is nigh, even at the doors.
30 Verily I say unto you, that this generation shall not pass, till all these things be done.
31 Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away.
32 But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.
33 Take ye heed, watch and pray: for ye know not when the time is.
34 For the Son of Man is as a man taking a far journey, who left his house, and gave authority to his servants, and to every man his work, and commanded the porter to watch.
35 Watch ye therefore: for ye know not when the master of the house cometh, at even, or at midnight, or at the cockcrowing, or in the morning:
36 Lest coming suddenly he find you sleeping.
37 And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch