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Matthew 24: 13
13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved
After Jesus said this we already have the answer. However we will dig a bit deeper. Let's start with a definition of SAVED.
Saved - To keep someone or something safe.
Saved - To stop (someone or something) from dying or being hurt, damaged or lost.
So someone who is saved is someone who can not die.
1 Corinthians 15: 1 - 2
1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
Saved in this context is from moment to moment. That is obvious because Paul said "IF" you keep in memory what was preached. Which means if they don't they can lose their salvation. Come let us continue to reason to together.
2 Timothy 1: 8 - 9
8 Be not thou therefore ashamed of the testimony of our Lord, nor of me his prisoner: but be thou partaker of the afflictions of the gospel according to the power of God;
9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,
You are safe while you are living and obeying Christ. If you turn around and start disobeying Christ you are no longer safe and if you die in your transgression none of your good will be mentioned.
Ezekiel 18: 20 - 26
20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.
21 But if the wicked will turn from all his sins that he hath committed, and keep all my statutes, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall surely live, he shall not die.
22 All his transgressions that he hath committed, they shall not be mentioned unto him: in his righteousness that he hath done he shall live.
23 Have I any pleasure at all that the wicked should die? saith the Lord God: and not that he should return from his ways, and live?
24 But when the righteous turneth away from his righteousness, ( I hate to jump in here but people seriously talk as if you can't change your mind after serving Christ) and committeth iniquity, and doeth according to all the abominations that the wicked man doeth, shall he live? All his righteousness that he hath done shall not be mentioned: in his trespass that he hath trespassed, and in his sin that he hath sinned, in them shall he die.
25 Yet ye say, The way of the Lord is not equal. Hear now, O house of Israel; Is not my way equal? are not your ways unequal?
26 When a righteous man turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and dieth in them; for his iniquity that he hath done shall he die.
This is consistent with what Jesus is saying. Hold onto your faith until the end and Jesus will give you a body that cannot die.
Revelation 3: 5 - 6
5 He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.
6 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.
God first discuss this book of life with Moses in Exodus 32: 30 - 33 and he explains who he will blot out. If once saved always saved then your name could not be blotted out. By saying you can't lose salvation you are calling Jesus a liar and I advice against doing that. So your name can be in the book of life and get blotted out. You have to endure and have you name remain in the book of life. So nobody can claim they are saved unless they keep the faith until Jesus comes or until he/she dies. I want to stop here to keep the thread short but I know someone will use this verse so let's examine it.
Romans 10: 9, 13 - 14
9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?
Looks like yo need a preacher to hear about the Jesus of this bible.
Also this is exactly why Peter stated Paul's epistles are hard to be understood. God himself already told you what will happen if you turn around. So you shall be saved if you endure unto the end according to Jesus.
There is clause here as well. How can you call on a God you never heard about? People don't know about the feast of the LORD neither do they keep the Sabbath, apparently the 10 commandments have been nailed to the cross. Modern day preachers are preaching another Jesus see 2 Corinthians 11: 4 and not the Jesus preached in this bible.
Romans 8: 24 - 25
24 For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?
25 But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it.
EXACTLY. If you are already saved then you got your reward already, so you have nothing to hope for. If I have a million dollars why would I hope for a million dollars? Search this bible out, don't let someone read one verse or verses from Paul epistles only. You are saved if you endure until the end just like your savior Jesus stated.
13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved
After Jesus said this we already have the answer. However we will dig a bit deeper. Let's start with a definition of SAVED.
Saved - To keep someone or something safe.
Saved - To stop (someone or something) from dying or being hurt, damaged or lost.
So someone who is saved is someone who can not die.
1 Corinthians 15: 1 - 2
1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
Saved in this context is from moment to moment. That is obvious because Paul said "IF" you keep in memory what was preached. Which means if they don't they can lose their salvation. Come let us continue to reason to together.
2 Timothy 1: 8 - 9
8 Be not thou therefore ashamed of the testimony of our Lord, nor of me his prisoner: but be thou partaker of the afflictions of the gospel according to the power of God;
9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,
You are safe while you are living and obeying Christ. If you turn around and start disobeying Christ you are no longer safe and if you die in your transgression none of your good will be mentioned.
Ezekiel 18: 20 - 26
20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.
21 But if the wicked will turn from all his sins that he hath committed, and keep all my statutes, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall surely live, he shall not die.
22 All his transgressions that he hath committed, they shall not be mentioned unto him: in his righteousness that he hath done he shall live.
23 Have I any pleasure at all that the wicked should die? saith the Lord God: and not that he should return from his ways, and live?
24 But when the righteous turneth away from his righteousness, ( I hate to jump in here but people seriously talk as if you can't change your mind after serving Christ) and committeth iniquity, and doeth according to all the abominations that the wicked man doeth, shall he live? All his righteousness that he hath done shall not be mentioned: in his trespass that he hath trespassed, and in his sin that he hath sinned, in them shall he die.
25 Yet ye say, The way of the Lord is not equal. Hear now, O house of Israel; Is not my way equal? are not your ways unequal?
26 When a righteous man turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and dieth in them; for his iniquity that he hath done shall he die.
This is consistent with what Jesus is saying. Hold onto your faith until the end and Jesus will give you a body that cannot die.
Revelation 3: 5 - 6
5 He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.
6 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.
God first discuss this book of life with Moses in Exodus 32: 30 - 33 and he explains who he will blot out. If once saved always saved then your name could not be blotted out. By saying you can't lose salvation you are calling Jesus a liar and I advice against doing that. So your name can be in the book of life and get blotted out. You have to endure and have you name remain in the book of life. So nobody can claim they are saved unless they keep the faith until Jesus comes or until he/she dies. I want to stop here to keep the thread short but I know someone will use this verse so let's examine it.
Romans 10: 9, 13 - 14
9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?
Looks like yo need a preacher to hear about the Jesus of this bible.
Also this is exactly why Peter stated Paul's epistles are hard to be understood. God himself already told you what will happen if you turn around. So you shall be saved if you endure unto the end according to Jesus.
There is clause here as well. How can you call on a God you never heard about? People don't know about the feast of the LORD neither do they keep the Sabbath, apparently the 10 commandments have been nailed to the cross. Modern day preachers are preaching another Jesus see 2 Corinthians 11: 4 and not the Jesus preached in this bible.
Romans 8: 24 - 25
24 For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?
25 But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it.
EXACTLY. If you are already saved then you got your reward already, so you have nothing to hope for. If I have a million dollars why would I hope for a million dollars? Search this bible out, don't let someone read one verse or verses from Paul epistles only. You are saved if you endure until the end just like your savior Jesus stated.